Forum Topic: Guy fired for "God" button.

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Posted at: 10/28/09 05:10 PM

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Story here.

I, for one, think this is bullshit. This country was founded on freedom of religion. They can't take away our right for free speech either. If I were that man I'd sue Home Depot. I don't give a fuck if people get mad or whatever, that guy has a right to express his beliefs. Not only that, but it was also a button expressing a love for his country. What's wrong with wearing a button that says "God bless America" in America. Next thing you know, they're gonna ban tortillas from Mexico. It's an outrage I tell ya, an outrage.

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that is complete bullshit. they are just retarded. btw, if your atheist just let him worship in peace. we all have our own beliefs. we don't need to complain about other peoples.

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He got what he deserved.


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He's going to win that court case, and get a LOT of money out of it.

People should just let him believe in what he wants to believe, but he should have taken the button off when they asked him to...


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At 10/28/09 05:16 PM, ChiefSol wrote: He got what he deserved.

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At 10/28/09 05:16 PM, Diddy wrote: He's going to win that court case, and get a LOT of money out of it.

People should just let him believe in what he wants to believe, but he should have taken the button off when they asked him to...

Just watch he's probably going to lose because people are to stupid and blah blah blah

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I've got a feeling Home Depot is fucked on this one. I just know it.

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At 10/28/09 05:10 PM, slingshot14 wrote: Story here.

I, for one, think this is bullshit.

Thing is though, they in no way have to let him wear it because they're a private company, the first amendment means shit all to them. If they have a company rule that says no non-company pins on your apron, you're not allowed non-company pins on your apron, regardless of what they say and are.

Besides, there's no way he'll win if this ever gets to court, it's not like he was banned from wearing a jewish skullcap or a muslim burka or something. There's no real infringement on his rights other than his right to be a dick to his employer and REFUSE TO TAKE OFF A FUCKING BAGE FROM HIS SHITTY APRON.

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At 10/28/09 05:16 PM, Diddy wrote: He's going to win that court case, and get a LOT of money out of it.

but he should have taken the button off when they asked him to...

No, he had a right, nay, a duty to wear that button to let everybody know that he was a soldier of God and so people never forget who's in charge.


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At 10/28/09 05:14 PM, starownage3 wrote: that is complete bullshit. they are just retarded. btw, if your atheist just let him worship in peace. we all have our own beliefs. we don't need to complain about other peoples.

I completely agree. This man did nothing wrong by expressing love for his country. I'm not going to bash this man for believing in god, because I'm not an insensitive prick when it comes to this. America was founded on personal freedom, and I'm sure every other American like me feels the same way.


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What ever happened to live and let live?

There's lots of things that I personally disagree with. But I wouldn't go around subjecting my views forcibly onto other people. So firing someone of a badge seems totally moronic.

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"OMFGWTFBBQ That man is wearing a button that has a word that I don't like on it. He needs to be fired!!!!" Shit's getting annoying now.

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"only company-provided pins and badges can be worn on our aprons."
Work uniform my good sir.
It wasn't over religion at all, it was blown up to be however, because the man was either ignorant or trying to make a point, either way he was breaking the rules and it's in their rights to fire him.

He also read his bible aloud during lunch break, but they didn't fire him for that, why? Because it's not against the rules.

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I do agree that the Home Depot saying they told him to remove the button because, "It's simple not allowed" is complete bullshit. The button may contain the word God but then again so does our currency. It's a patriotic button, not a religious one although it can be interpreted as one.

The only way I could see a good reason for him being fired is if he pushed his religion on others or often spoke of it.

There's two men at my work who are all about God and bring bibles to work. I find it annoying because I don't feel comfortable talking about religion, especially as work. If I assist for the one man who's a cashier, 70% of the conversation is something Christian related. He even twisted my name into a religious conversation although I still don't see how.

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At 10/28/09 05:16 PM, Diddy wrote: He's going to win that court case, and get a LOT of money out of it.

Civil rights and employment law professor disagrees with you.

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Even though I hate Christians/Catholics as a group, Home Depot can't make him remove a button just because it wasn't "company-approved." What's that say about the clothes you wear? Do they have to be "company-approved" as well? Its bullshit! I say that as long as you come into work, do a satisfactory job, and don't cause trouble, you can wear whatever you want as long as you wear something that doesn't offend a majority of the customers.

But it also said that the guy kept saying that he supported his country. So I wonder: what was wrong with the pin that Home Depot suggested? Was it just the principal of the thing?

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It's very simple. It was against company policy. There is absolutely 0% to do with the constitution on this one. The company for which he worked forbid it, he signed contracts when he signed up. He broke those policies, was warned, and when he didn't take action he was fired. There is absolutely no case. Any sensible judge needs not more than to read the company policy before throwing this case out.

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Wow that's complete bullshit. It's better than wearing a shirt. People are so fucking sensative these days.


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What a fucking moron. They told him to take it off. He knew damn well he should have. But he continued to wear that retarded button. When I go to Home Depot I don't want to have God imposed on me. If this were an unjust country (which it is but that's beside the point) he would have been executed and not just fired. The idiot got what he deserved.

Also did anyone happen to catch:
"This associate chose to wear a button that expressed his religious beliefs. The issue is not whether or not we agree with the message on the button," Craig Fishel said. "That's not our place to say, which is exactly why we have a blanket policy, which is long-standing and well-communicated to our associates, that only company-provided pins and badges can be worn on our aprons."

I think that basically covers the thread. He signed a contract to work there, he has to abide by store policy or he can be fired. He's not going to win a single cent in court.


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The company was in the right as the idea prevents Atheists, Muslims and other non-Christians having to put up with his religious nonsense. Honestly, if it was any other religion, people wouldn't of cared if he was fired over supporting it via buttons or religious books. The main reasons the company uphold laws like these are simple:
1. Reduces racism due to less knowledge of each person's religious beliefs.
2. Reduces the idea of a religious image of the business as it wouldn't seem they employ Christians only or only support Christianity.

Not to mention the cunt is retarded (" "It feels kind of like a punishment, like I was punished for just loving my country," Keezer said.", totally ignoring he was fired for religious references).

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This is why I hate newgrounds sometimes.
1/20th of the people actually read the article.
I guarentee you almost all of you just read the title and made inferences.

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At 10/28/09 05:22 PM, Aigis wrote:
At 10/28/09 05:16 PM, Diddy wrote: He's going to win that court case, and get a LOT of money out of it.
Civil rights and employment law professor disagrees with you.

Pour quoi? Does he not have a valid case for almost constructive dismissal on religious grounds?


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These kinds of stories are easily twisted into tales of 'discrimination' and 'political correctness' but the fact is that the company has a policy regarding wearing any pins other than the ones they provide. If everyone else has to adhere to the rules, why shouldn't he?

I could understand if the company had no such policy and were letting every other religious type have their pins on, then that would certainly be discrimination. But that's not how it is.

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At 10/28/09 05:22 PM, estrago1 wrote: Even though I hate Christians/Catholics as a group, Home Depot can't make him remove a button just because it wasn't "company-approved." What's that say about the clothes you wear? Do they have to be "company-approved" as well?

Yes. Yes they do. It's called a dress code and just about every company has one.


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At 10/28/09 05:26 PM, Diddy wrote: Pour quoi? Does he not have a valid case for almost constructive dismissal on religious grounds?

Did you read the article?

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Private companies have image to look after. If I went to work wearing an anarchist pin, my employer has the right to tell me to take it off or go home. Same for any pin or piece of clothing.

Same with the recent case with the fireman and the flag sticker. If they say you're not allowed to decorate X it means you're not allowed to do so, no matter what it is. Seriously, you can love your country as much as you want to, but at work you love your employer.

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To those of you saying that the company had a right to fire him because he was breaking company policy I say, bullshit. When it comes to asserting your position as a child of God, no company policies matter. God comes first.


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In 6 months, I'll be woken up ass early by a group of athiests handing out flyers that talk about how God isn't real.

Fucking hypocrits.

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At 10/28/09 05:30 PM, slingshot14 wrote: To those of you saying that the company had a right to fire him because he was breaking company policy I say, bullshit. When it comes to asserting your position as a child of God, no company policies matter. God comes first.

Instant troll alarm activated.

Abandon this thread. It's obvious this guy is trolling.

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