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Kidiri

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Posted at: 10/28/09 03:42 PM

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To all of those who say that something new happens every second I have this to say:

If you know everything in the entire universe, I believe it's possible to predict the future. Correctly. Let me explain:

Let's say we want to predict the outcome of the next election. What does it depend on? The views of the voters, the views of the candidates etc. But also on what happens on the day of the election: is it raining? Is it hot? Is there an important sports match? This influences the amount of people who go to vote. This is also important. But to (correctly -just assume I say this every time in this or a similar context-) know and predict this, you have to know what lead to this. In order to know that you have to go all the way back to the exact moment now. If you know literally EVERYTHING, you know the exact position, velocity, forces etc. of every particle. Next you can do calculations (very complex and long calculations) on how these particles interact. The results thereof would lead to more and more calculations (how they affect the weather, the voters, the global events...) and eventually lead to a conclusion. This conclusion would be the outcome of the elections. If these calculations can be done instantaneously, all those new things are predicted and no longer 'new' knowledge, just derivatives of the current situation.
Obviously, this would be infeasible: the calculations involved would be immensely complex due to all of the factors involved. These factors are, of course, every particle and their properties that exist at the time of the calculations. But if that hurdle should be overcome, we can predict the future (which in turn would/could change it) with all of the consequence involved.

TL;DR: predicting the future is possible, as long as you know everything that happens and is at one time.

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No, because if it took thousands of years to gather all the knowledge we currently have, you wouldn't be able to learn all of it in your lifespan, even assuming you didn't need sleep or food or bathrooms.

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obviously not, because there's always something you cant learn


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No, for a few reasons. Humans only use 10% of their brains for knowledge, and everything could not fit in there. There's also just too much to learn. It would take a couple of lifetimes to grasp all things logically. Just learning every type of math could take decades. Nobody has the drive, perseverance, or energy to learn everything.

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No. There are a definite number of brain cells. I can't believe this thread has 2 pages.


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The day we learn everything is the day the universe implodes.

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No, I do not believe the human brain has that much storage space.
Not to mention the fact that you would have to know things like the position of every single atom in the universe at every single moment in time


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No, because theyre is too much stuff, plus int he future they will be more things you would have to learn.

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At 10/28/09 02:10 AM, Robotchk12 wrote: Yes, it is possible, but something bad could happe-

he found out about futa didn't he :/

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At 10/28/09 02:15 AM, HighWayStar365 wrote: Well, riddle me this Batman, is it posible to not know everything without first knowing nothing?

wut?

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Well, let me suggest this: try to learn everything about this country and its individual states. When you finish that, post here and tell us how long it took. That should answer your question.

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Not by human capacity.
Maybe someday, there will be a way to aquire all true information on an ultra super god computer.

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