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Is it possible to learn everything? 2009-10-28 02:05:23 Reply

Simple question: Is it possible to learn everything?

Now think hard about this one. Really think about growth, over time, human ideas, etc.

Discuss, I'm curious as to what you guys think.

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Response to Is it possible to learn everything? 2009-10-28 02:06:57 Reply

No because we dont have enough time to learn everything...


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Response to Is it possible to learn everything? 2009-10-28 02:07:44 Reply

Maybe eventually. But that would mean school going to 24th grade or some shit.

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Response to Is it possible to learn everything? 2009-10-28 02:10:30 Reply

No, because not only do we have no time to do so, we can't be sure we know what we know is true and that everyday there are new discoveries being made.

It's just not possible yo.


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Response to Is it possible to learn everything? 2009-10-28 02:10:52 Reply

Yes, it is possible, but something bad could happe-

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Response to Is it possible to learn everything? 2009-10-28 02:15:01 Reply

Well, riddle me this Batman, is it posible to not know everything without first knowing nothing?


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Response to Is it possible to learn everything? 2009-10-28 02:25:42 Reply

If you're talking about humanity as a whole, knowing everything about the universe, maybe. But it's speculated that the universe keeps growing, so maybe not.

As for a single person knowing everything, definitely not. Not enough info out there, not enough time to absorb it all.


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Response to Is it possible to learn everything? 2009-10-28 02:30:57 Reply

How many planets in the universe?

Maybe if we had answers to all questions... then we could know everything.

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Response to Is it possible to learn everything? 2009-10-28 02:43:24 Reply

Something new happens every second. I highly doubt it would be possible.


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Response to Is it possible to learn everything? 2009-10-28 04:05:30 Reply

At 10/28/09 02:43 AM, Greenfrost6 wrote: Something new happens every second. I highly doubt it would be possible.

This, lets say i made another cup of coffee right now , without posting it how would you know ?

A better question would be can 1 person have the cumulative knowledge of everyone else in the world


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Response to Is it possible to learn everything? 2009-10-28 04:06:47 Reply

At 10/28/09 02:05 AM, Cybersief wrote: Simple question: Is it possible to learn everything?

Now think hard about this one. Really think about growth, over time, human ideas, etc.

Discuss, I'm curious as to what you guys think.

Good lord no way. I tried and i failed. there is onlky so much room and knowledge a person can store before they start forgeting the info.


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Response to Is it possible to learn everything? 2009-10-28 04:07:12 Reply

At 10/28/09 02:05 AM, Cybersief wrote: Simple question: Is it possible to learn everything?

No, since humans doesn't know everything.


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Response to Is it possible to learn everything? 2009-10-28 04:11:03 Reply

Our current knowledge of the Universe keeps evolving and expanding, so on a liner level, no. If you think about it, the way scientists classify matter has been used for decades. THen comes dark matter, which our way classifying doesn't work on. So no.

On a non-linear level, no as well because you can never know everything about everybody.


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Response to Is it possible to learn everything? 2009-10-28 04:17:15 Reply

Well first off here's one thing, you would need to know about every single thought by everyone and everything ever. Unless you know what that one Arabic goat herder was thinking about 3,000 years ago, you'll never know everything. Since there is absolutely no way to learn things like that, no you cannot learn everything.

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Response to Is it possible to learn everything? 2009-10-28 04:21:46 Reply

At 10/28/09 02:06 AM, Hawdcore wrote: No because we dont have enough time to learn everything...

I agree with this.

It would be impossible anyway to learn EVERYTHING because of a few factors.

Every day you learn something new, your mind is always learning new things, but as you learn, new things are being made and produced, so therefore you have to learn those as well, but things will always be made, and you will always be behind because technology moves so fast.

Plus, the human mind has a capacity limit. Sure, you can look at things through over 1 million megapixel eyes and take in huge amounts of data, but it would be impossible to learn everything. Everything that has ever happened, everything that IS happening, and everything THAT IS ABOUT to happen.

I think it just wouldn't be possible for a human mind.

However....A robotic mind? Well, thats a different story.

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Response to Is it possible to learn everything? 2009-10-28 04:35:20 Reply

At 10/28/09 04:21 AM, Lizzardis wrote: However....A robotic mind? Well, thats a different story.

No it isnt , a robotic mind would be equally if not more incapable of such a task .


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Response to Is it possible to learn everything? 2009-10-28 04:54:38 Reply

At 10/28/09 02:05 AM, Cybersief wrote: Simple question: Is it possible to learn everything?

Now think hard about this one. Really think about growth, over time, human ideas, etc.

Discuss, I'm curious as to what you guys think.

Is it possible to learn everything? Yes, if you allow me to teach you.

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Response to Is it possible to learn everything? 2009-10-28 04:55:48 Reply

At 10/28/09 04:35 AM, hdxmike wrote:
At 10/28/09 04:21 AM, Lizzardis wrote: However....A robotic mind? Well, thats a different story.
No it isnt , a robotic mind would be equally if not more incapable of such a task .

How would you know that? The way that robotic minds are developing, they most probably will be better than ours!

If a robotic mind can know how to walk, import data much faster than humans can, sing, recognise voices in EARLY 21st century....Who knows what they are capable of doing later on by say....2025?

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Response to Is it possible to learn everything? 2009-10-28 14:31:00 Reply

At 10/28/09 02:05 AM, Cybersief wrote: Simple question: Is it possible to learn everything?

Now think hard about this one. Really think about growth, over time, human ideas, etc.

Discuss, I'm curious as to what you guys think.

Unfortunatly not. Human minds are to small to keep all the knowledge in, let alone learn it.
The idea is as insolent as Orochimaru's idea to learn evry jutsu in the world.
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Response to Is it possible to learn everything? 2009-10-28 14:32:15 Reply

At 10/28/09 04:05 AM, hdxmike wrote:
At 10/28/09 02:43 AM, Greenfrost6 wrote: Something new happens every second. I highly doubt it would be possible.
This, lets say i made another cup of coffee right now , without posting it how would you know ?

A better question would be can 1 person have the cumulative knowledge of everyone else in the world

In that case no it's not possible, obviously, to know everything is to know nothing.

Because everything in the world is pointless.

Therefore you'd be a shit for brains like everyone else.


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Response to Is it possible to learn everything? 2009-10-28 14:36:59 Reply

No, because new information is always being made, and the only way to know EVERYTHING would be to travel to the edges of the galaxy and learn even more things along the way. You would die long before you even came close to learning everything.


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Response to Is it possible to learn everything? 2009-10-28 14:47:11 Reply

No. If you learn everything, this also includes the exact locations AND velocities of the sub-atomic particles. And as our good friend Heisenberg has said, this can't be done.

But if it were possible, you'd be able to predict the future!

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Response to Is it possible to learn everything? 2009-10-28 14:51:25 Reply

At 10/28/09 02:05 AM, Cybersief wrote: Simple question: Is it possible to learn everything?
Now think hard about this one.

It didn't take me over a few seconds to come up with "no".


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Response to Is it possible to learn everything? 2009-10-28 14:56:45 Reply

At 10/28/09 04:05 AM, hdxmike wrote: A better question would be can 1 person have the cumulative knowledge of everyone else in the world

Unless we develop hive like minds, then we could know everything everyone does.


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Response to Is it possible to learn everything? 2009-10-28 15:03:19 Reply

no, because things keep changing- as soon as you learn one thing, another thing pops up.

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Response to Is it possible to learn everything? 2009-10-28 15:15:46 Reply

At 10/28/09 02:07 AM, PaulStetich wrote: Maybe eventually. But that would mean school going to 24th grade or some shit.

Oh god now, thats way far back, probably around the area of 150th grade. Think about it, learning everything including the language of those of whom we do not speak

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Response to Is it possible to learn everything? 2009-10-28 15:16:55 Reply

no because every second something in the world happwns and you wont be able to see it


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Response to Is it possible to learn everything? 2009-10-28 15:19:57 Reply

No, try even knowing every person on earths name, then learn who is related to everyone and who is friends with them, just that a lone is impossible, much less keeping track of what everyone on earth did just today.

And then you have the rest of the universe.

No.


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Response to Is it possible to learn everything? 2009-10-28 15:25:23 Reply

This would first have to allow for us to cumulatively know everything, which could take more than the time we have left before the sun fries us. Additionally, all scientific principles are subject to change, and most of the laws of physics say "tend to" because there may be some forms of matter we're not prepared to document to this law yet.

Not only that, but even if someone could know everything, they couldn't understand everything as that would involve dying in several different ways.

And worst of all is the fact that knowing everything includes all things supernatural that even if proved, would be constantly detested by people following a religion that does not include such facts.

Last of all, you would have to know everything in the history of the universe, including all previous civilizations, having read all books, heard all songs, and knowing everything about each individual person in the history of the world, including a single mite on someone's armpit hair and their history throughout their life, including their entire heritage.

Perhaps this is a rather extensive explanation, but you get the idea? In order for someone to know everything, they would already have a lifetime of books and songs to listen to, and perfectly remember everything they learned. They would have to travel faster than the speed of light to the point where they could observe Earth from a telescope and see it billions of years ago (which also means billions of light-years away), and THE WORST of all is that sound waves can't escape the Earth's atmosphere, so we couldn't know what someone's voice sounded like 3,000 years ago, let alone everyone's (including every cicada).


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Response to Is it possible to learn everything? 2009-10-28 15:42:46 Reply

To all of those who say that something new happens every second I have this to say:

If you know everything in the entire universe, I believe it's possible to predict the future. Correctly. Let me explain:

Let's say we want to predict the outcome of the next election. What does it depend on? The views of the voters, the views of the candidates etc. But also on what happens on the day of the election: is it raining? Is it hot? Is there an important sports match? This influences the amount of people who go to vote. This is also important. But to (correctly -just assume I say this every time in this or a similar context-) know and predict this, you have to know what lead to this. In order to know that you have to go all the way back to the exact moment now. If you know literally EVERYTHING, you know the exact position, velocity, forces etc. of every particle. Next you can do calculations (very complex and long calculations) on how these particles interact. The results thereof would lead to more and more calculations (how they affect the weather, the voters, the global events...) and eventually lead to a conclusion. This conclusion would be the outcome of the elections. If these calculations can be done instantaneously, all those new things are predicted and no longer 'new' knowledge, just derivatives of the current situation.
Obviously, this would be infeasible: the calculations involved would be immensely complex due to all of the factors involved. These factors are, of course, every particle and their properties that exist at the time of the calculations. But if that hurdle should be overcome, we can predict the future (which in turn would/could change it) with all of the consequence involved.

TL;DR: predicting the future is possible, as long as you know everything that happens and is at one time.

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