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At 10/26/09 11:45 PM, Crumption wrote:

At 10/26/09 11:40 PM, studmuffin7 wrote:

Anyone else here need a lesson in logic?

You should at least put a minimal amount of effort into your trolling...

The only one trolling here is the one supporting a nonChristian viewpoint. The more we drift from truth, the more people will get confused and the more souls will wind up in Hell. That is why your kind of talk, even if it is trolling, is dangerous and unforgivable.

At 10/26/09 11:49 PM, aquaticmole wrote:

At 10/26/09 11:44 PM, Leidolfr wrote:

At 10/26/09 11:29 PM, yurgenburgen wrote:

At 10/26/09 11:28 PM, studmuffin7 wrote: Yes, other religions are false. That is logical. What is your point?

Explain how your religion is correct while others aren't.

well see, my god has these big boots, and a really kick ass stereo....

My god > your god.

My God carries around a bronze sword and travels by a puma which he domesticated.

Actually, your God does not exist. There is only one true God in existance, the others are all false.

Yeaaaaah hes a troll.

But I must say terrific trolling.

Hands down the best troll I have seen in a while that he deserves a kick in the nuts.

One nation under whichever god you happen to worship.

At 10/27/09 01:15 PM, studmuffin7 wrote: That is why your kind of talk, even if it is trolling, is dangerous and unforgivable.

Your religion dictates that you are meant to forgive anyone for anything.

At 10/26/09 11:09 PM, aquaticmole wrote:

America rights were founded by the Bible

i thought the masons had a part in that.

At 10/27/09 01:21 PM, MrPercie wrote: Yeaaaaah hes a troll.

But I must say terrific trolling.

Hands down the best troll I have seen in a while that he deserves a kick in the nuts.

Actually, there are more trolls than whatever one you are talking about. I've noticed three people so far ramble blasphemies in this thread alone. They need psychological help.

At 10/26/09 04:20 PM, 10JD wrote: America just makes me sick, today during class we did the pledge and they took out "One Nation Under God". It Pisses me off that our generation is they generation to change it. Everything today needs to be politically correct. There was nothing wrong with the phrase 10 years ago or even 100 years ago, why all the sudden there is it a conflict. Our rights were founded on specifications found in the Bible, man did not give you your right, they are all God given rights. No "man" gave you those rights.

Soon it will be

"One nation under all the religions that people only have one of and would be wrong if we only mentioned one"

What a mouthful 0_o

yeah, and same with changing the time era BC to BCE ( before Christian Era )

complete bull shit.

Sometimes political correctness is just stupid and pointless, but other times it's nice to be polite
So don't go bashing the entire idea, just calm down and talk about a specific area.

OTHERWISE GTFO

I hate the fact that no holidays, NO HOLIDAYS WHATSOEVER are allowed in school. Halloween, Valentine's Day, St. Patrick's Day, no matter HOW IRRELEVANT TO RELIGION is is, SOMEBODY is offended by it. Halloween: Candy and costumes? NO!! IT ENCOURAGES SATANISM!! Valentine's Day: Peace and love? NO!! IT ENCOURAGES UNDERAGE SEX!!! St. Patrick's day: Love for the Irish (me) NOOOOOO!!!! IT ENCOURAGES ALCOHOLISM!!! 4th of July: Fireworks and Independance? NOO!!! IT OFFENDS PEOPLE WHO CAME FROM OTHER COUNTRIES!!!

Bottom Line: GROW SOME FUCKING BALLS and accept the fact that there are other holidays in the world besides your own, alright?

And the whole 'Under God' thing? Vishnu is a God. Zeus is a God. Allah is a God. They're all Gods. It could imply that we are under ANY God, not necessarily the Christian God, alright? We just happen to call ours 'God'.

At 10/27/09 03:49 PM, studmuffin7 wrote:
Actually, there are more trolls than whatever one you are talking about. I've noticed three people so far ramble blasphemies in this thread alone. They need psychological help.

YOU need psychological help. You base your entire life around a STORY that cannot be proven. That's like saying that you worship Santa Claus. Just beacause your idiot parents bowed down to a piece of wood doesn't mean you need to. We're not apes anymore, we don't need bedtime storys to help us understand. We have science. Now go to school.

At 10/27/09 01:16 PM, studmuffin7 wrote: There is only one true God in existance, the others are all false.

And if they have to believe that God takes the form of many almighty beings or whatever, let them. God loves them either way. Now stop making monotheists look like a stereotype and sit down.

I thought this topic was about...

Well if god has all power why does he let these people have religions if he knows what there in for? Why did he create religions that would trick billions of people so they could go to hell? Would that imply god was bad? All the religion's have no flaw's because we dont know what there is after death. Just because a man lives a different religion doesnt mean he aint good. If he didnt steal, murder, rape or commit any sins in the bible (which are related to many other religions) then why would he go to hell? He was a good man or women. And that is good enough for god. The KKK and the ultra islamist terroist groups are no different. Different skin, Different Language, Different Religion.....Same old shit.

They did? Shit, in high school I had to say both the American AND Texan pledge, both with "under god", and also, "one state under god" wasn't on the pledge until 2006. I, find, that, bullshit.

I paid special attention to the intercom this morning. Turns out my school still keeps "Under God" in the pledge. So hah.

thing is, im an atheist..and even i think this is retarded...
it's a word, a phrase moreless....
leave it the fuck alone....

SANTA'S "ho ho ho " is wanted to be changed to "ha ha ha"

fucking retarded ):

At 10/26/09 04:20 PM, 10JD wrote: There was nothing wrong with the phrase 10 years ago or even 100 years ago, why all the sudden here is it a conflict.

Actually, that was added in the 1960's i believe, well sometime during the cold war, and we put it in there to piss off commies. True story

At 10/26/09 04:20 PM, 10JD wrote: America just makes me sick:

Then get the fuck out.

At 10/27/09 01:16 PM, studmuffin7 wrote:

At 10/26/09 11:49 PM, aquaticmole wrote:

At 10/26/09 11:44 PM, Leidolfr wrote:

At 10/26/09 11:29 PM, yurgenburgen wrote:

At 10/26/09 11:28 PM, studmuffin7 wrote: Yes, other religions are false. That is logical. What is your point?

Explain how your religion is correct while others aren't.

well see, my god has these big boots, and a really kick ass stereo....

My god > your god.

My God carries around a bronze sword and travels by a puma which he domesticated.

Actually, your God does not exist. There is only one true God in existance, the others are all false.

Yes, I know this guy's a troll, but I want to see what he says to the following question.

So if all the other gods aren't real, what makes your god so special?

It wasn't 'Under God" 100 years ago. It was changed in the 50's.

LINKY

They changed it at the hight of the Cold War.

At 10/27/09 07:54 PM, CaptainChip wrote: Yes, I know this guy's a troll, but I want to see what he says to the following question.

So if all the other gods aren't real, what makes your god so special?

Sorry, I already told him off and he left.

Summing up my views
-Americas founders were not intending to make a christian nation, it specifically is mentioned
-"Under god" could apply to all gods technically, but what about people who dont believe in one?
-As stated multiple times, "under god" was added in the 1950s
-That troll defending christianity is obviously guilty of "pride" which is one of the seven deadly sins
Have fun in "hell" you "sinner" and gtfo

At 10/26/09 04:40 PM, Evark wrote:

As far as I know, this court case was decided years ago. They simply removed 'under God', "... one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all." Flows just as well. I heard somewhere that 'under God' wasn't even in the original pledge, but that it was added years later.

That's true, "under god" was added during the Red Scare, to somehow distinguish ourselves from the communists
in fact, the original pledge was quite short... although I can't quite remember what it was verbatim...

At 10/27/09 08:14 PM, ub3rtuba wrote:

At 10/26/09 04:40 PM, Evark wrote:

As far as I know, this court case was decided years ago. They simply removed 'under God', "... one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all." Flows just as well. I heard somewhere that 'under God' wasn't even in the original pledge, but that it was added years later.

That's true, "under god" was added during the Red Scare, to somehow distinguish ourselves from the communists
in fact, the original pledge was quite short... although I can't quite remember what it was verbatim...

QUICK ADDITION
One of my favourite quotes- it goes along the lines of, "if there is evil in the world, does that not mean that god is not all powerful? If he allows it, does that not strip him of benevolence?"
something along those lines that I love

At 10/26/09 04:27 PM, 10JD wrote: America rights were founded by the Bible,

Uh. . .

No they weren't.

At 10/27/09 08:44 PM, Pointy-Circle wrote:

At 10/26/09 04:27 PM, 10JD wrote: America rights were founded by the Bible,

Uh. . .

No they weren't.

Maybe the Bill of rights part, but definitely not the whole thing.

At 10/27/09 08:59 PM, Reaperyami wrote:

At 10/27/09 08:44 PM, Pointy-Circle wrote:

At 10/26/09 04:27 PM, 10JD wrote: America rights were founded by the Bible,

Uh. . .

No they weren't.

Maybe the Bill of rights part, but definitely not the whole thing.

well yeah that is waht i was talking about. Not the bible itself but the rights absolutely.