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I'm glad they took it out, and I hope they start to phase that in nation-wide."Under god" is an archaic relic, a completely untrue and noninclusive statement that actually IS offensive and stupid, unlike many other complaints regarding political correctness. The state that a nation is "under god" presupposes that the only correct religion is the religion where a single omnipotent god exists, when clearly significant populations exist in the US of Polytheists, and the non-religious, who have just as much empirical evidence of the truth of their respective religions as Christians do of theirs.

If you care, say "under God" in your own damn head, where it doesn't bother anybody else in the world.

At 10/26/09 04:20 PM, 10JD wrote: There was nothing wrong with the phrase 10 years ago or even 100 years ago, why all the sudden there is it a conflict.

Just as others have said "under god" was added later to the pledge and was never meant to be there.

Your point is invalid.

You honestly think that every right is god given? Or that the bible wasnt written by a man?

All right, if we followed the bible, I would be beating women and children all over the place right now.

This is very annoying. I could give two shits about the pledge of allegiance but they're raping the english dictionary. Anything with a masculine suffix, like 'men' gets the suffix replaced with 'person' but anything that has a feminine suffix, like 'ess' doesn't. That's sexist.

At 10/26/09 06:06 PM, dontkillkenny42 wrote: If they did that at my school I'd just yell "One Nation Under God!" when we're saying the pledge. They can't give me detention or anything for it, thank god for freedom of speech.

I think you mean, thank MAN for freedom of speech

I agree with you. WHO THE FUCK cares about 4 fucking words. America has gone to shit all because you atheist fucks dont think we should say it. Well you know what, DONT FUCKING SAY IT.

Ow..

My feelings..

I simply refuse to even utter the name of an unprovable lie! I hate when others push their opinions on me but that doesn't mean I shouldn't push mine on them! I'm just hypocritical like that!

We should flat out get rid of everything Christmas too! FUCK the children, FUCK family togetherness, FUCK giving to others, FUCK morality! It's all the result of a bunch of religious hooey!

All you idiots bitching ITT sicken me.

At 10/26/09 04:20 PM, 10JD wrote: America just makes me sick, today during class we did the pledge and they took out "One Nation Under God". It Pisses me off that our generation is they generation to change it. Everything today needs to be politically correct.

The original pledge did not have under god in it. Under god was added in the 50s.

At 10/26/09 04:27 PM, 10JD wrote:

At 10/26/09 04:22 PM, ELITE-101 wrote: there's more then one religion thats why. now plz kindly be ignorant some where else

A church is founded on Christianity but warships a sea god? Dose that make sense?
America rights were founded by the Bible, but we dont give a rats ass about God anymore?

Still not make sense?

What the fuck are you on about, dipshit?
It wasn't taken out for "Political Correctness", people who aren't religious or a different religion shouldn't have to pledge allegance (Read:Swear to Serve) God if they don't believe in it. And this has been going on since the fucking 50's. AND there's a law against it, Seperation of Church and State was one of the principles our country was founded upon, dumbass.

Separation Of Church And State.

Pic relevant:

I thought we implemented that phrase back during the Cold War because Communists don't believe in God, or something along those lines.

America was founded and established by a Christian population. Back then, different religions meant different branches of Christianity. Either that or if you were Jew, which was still technically worshiping the same god. Although I don't give a shit, it was still a major part of America's culture and to take that away is stupid. It's like cows and Hindu's (Wtf?), Hindu's in India believe the Cow is a sacred animal and give them healthy lives. As of right now, you can see cows walking around the Rural streets of India. To hit or touch a cow over there (unless you were a high status) was like a sin, even right now. If I went to India right now and touched a cow, I would probably piss off a lot of Hindu's. To see America do that is outrageous! Let's say I'm a foreigner, If I didn't say the part about God in that pledge, I bet I would piss off a lot of Christians. Respect your Country's culture or get the fuck out, don't pull it out cause some people get offended by that little line -_-

im an athiest but i dont bitch about one stupid fucking sentance!

Haha in America you still have to say shit when class starts?
Amazing, I love to see you suffer.

cough

Sorry if it was already posted.

At 10/26/09 08:21 PM, Falonefal wrote: Haha in America you still have to say shit when class starts?
Amazing, I love to see you suffer.

Were ot forced to. Many people just do it out of habit. There is a large portion of people who just sit during the pledge. Even if they are saying it, it is a ten second little oath, I wouldn't call it suffering.

At 10/26/09 07:24 PM, Sh0T-D0wN wrote: I simply refuse to even utter the name of an unprovable lie! I hate when others push their opinions on me but that doesn't mean I shouldn't push mine on them! I'm just hypocritical like that!

We should flat out get rid of everything Christmas too! FUCK the children, FUCK family togetherness, FUCK giving to others, FUCK morality! It's all the result of a bunch of religious hooey!

All you idiots bitching ITT sicken me.

Well said. Every thread that ever had a prideful atheist post in it needs something like this. Really now, I've grown quite bored with the hubris some of you guys inflate your "enlightened" heads with.

Doesn't anyone here find it ironic that most of the atheists here are calling God a lie/fairy tale/etc. while celebrating the open-mindedness of America? Congrats guys.

If it bothers YOU then YOU can say it.
I'm sure if "god" really needed us to say "under god" every morning, he would use his divine power to make us.
Be considerate of people with other beliefs. Not everybody's a christian.

Because the rest of your country is respectful to the other religions.

Don't you just fucking love England?

You know, how your school never forced you to spout bullshit that you never believed in?
How the churches are relegated to a small community thing that only is payed attention to during weddings and funerals?
About how nobody really gives a fuck about what religion has to say to do with politics? And hasn't done since the monarchy was relegated to public figurehead alone?
How about that you could easily insult religion without an army of evangelists turning up on your door and trying to convert you? Even better, how you get NO ONE coming around to your door randomly trying to convert you?

I fucking love England.

Also, MAN MADE LAWS. Man made them and man enforces them. God never had a hand in anything, even if he did exsist...

At 10/26/09 07:24 PM, Sh0T-D0wN wrote: All you idiots bitching ITT sicken me.

Why, because an unconstitutional phrase has been removed after it was implemented 50 years ago as an anti-Communist propaganda tactic?

At 10/26/09 04:25 PM, ryanson209 wrote: They finally did it?

It was gonna happen eventually. Too many close-minded asses, want to make everything "politically correct," when being such actually offends more people. Telling us to open our minds, when it's their minds that need opening (not everyone, but enough of the population I believe).

I think you've misunderstood the definition of close-minded. An example of being close minded would be making everyone say "under God" in the pledge, no matter what religion they are. And really, does taking out "Under God" really offend more people? Perhaps it does, but should it really? It's not like they changed it to "One Nation, fuck you God." Taking it out would be the "open-minded" thing to do.

My example: "Merry Christmas." Isomeone doesn't celebrate it, then kindly say so. We'll be nice and say it the way you want us to; you can still celebrate Kwanzaa, Hannukah, and any other holiday around this time.

Isn't that pretty much what just happened? They kindly said so, and now we can say it the way that doesn't offend anyone.

But really, I don't see why we even bothered to change it. When was the last time you said the pledge and it changed your life and your patriotism? Or the last time that you actually cared what words that you were mindlessly muttering routinely? Taken out or kept there, it truly doesn't make that much of a difference.

Trooling is a art.

the words "under God" wasn't added into the pledge until 1954.

George Washington himself said in no way is this country founded on Christianity OP.

At 10/26/09 08:48 PM, FazzleMan wrote: Not everybody's a christian.

And those non Christians shouldn't really give a shit about two words. And if someone does, why doesn't that person replace it with "Under Vishnu" or "Under Zeus" or whomever he believes.

It really makes no difference to me as my school doesn't say the pledge.

At 10/26/09 09:26 PM, Victory wrote:

At 10/26/09 07:24 PM, Sh0T-D0wN wrote: All you idiots bitching ITT sicken me.

Why, because an unconstitutional phrase has been removed after it was implemented 50 years ago as an anti-Communist propaganda tactic?

No, because people have their heads so far up their own asses that they make a huge fuss about crap that hardly matters. This is as bad as when they changed the term "Christmas tree" to "Holiday tree".

Finally. Too bad that happened after I left high school.

At 10/26/09 07:54 PM, AnasaziTribal wrote: What the fuck are you on about, dipshit?
It wasn't taken out for "Political Correctness", people who aren't religious or a different religion shouldn't have to pledge allegance (Read:Swear to Serve) God if they don't believe in it. And this has been going on since the fucking 50's. AND there's a law against it, Seperation of Church and State was one of the principles our country was founded upon, dumbass.

you do have the right to religion, I am not say your don't, but building a country revolved around what God has given us, its more of a token of appreciation for this great land he has blessed us with. Its not like we are pushing a religion onto people we are embracing what created this country good values and rights given to us by God.