Forum Topic: programmer needed for "Gustave"

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nonomiyo

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Posted at: 10/26/09 05:47 AM

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Hello everybody. I'm an art student and I need an Actionscript programmer (AS3 would be great). I have this project which is nearly done for the graphics and now I need your help. It's not very difficult to code this, it's basically a Grow-type puzzle game.

Here is a link so you can see some of the animations from the game :
swf preview

You will find links to my blog and website on my profile too. Have fun !

programmer needed for &quot;Gustave&quot;


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Posted at: 10/26/09 08:53 AM

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Are the boobs really necessary?

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Posted at: 10/26/09 10:43 AM

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At 10/26/09 08:53 AM, sasuke2910 wrote: Are the boobs really necessary?

That's exactly what I was thinking... and the main reason why I'm not considering helping you code this simple game.


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Posted at: 10/26/09 10:51 AM

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I really can't tell if you people are serious or not :/

Anyway, that's a strange art style you have there... Although I highly doubt how successful a game like this can be commercially, artistically it looks very interesting.

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At 10/26/09 10:51 AM, Xeptic wrote: I really can't tell if you people are serious or not :/

Anyway, that's a strange art style you have there... Although I highly doubt how successful a game like this can be commercially, artistically it looks very interesting.

I'm totally serious... I'm not a fan of unnecessary vulgarity. I mean, when you can go for a G rating, why purposely go higher? For Shock Value? pah...


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At 10/26/09 11:08 AM, ThePeasant wrote: I'm totally serious... I'm not a fan of unnecessary vulgarity. I mean, when you can go for a G rating, why purposely go higher? For Shock Value? pah...

Your reasoning makes no sense to me. Who says the artist included the 'vulgarity' in this piece to purposely get a higher rating? Ever thought of the fact that this may be the artist's style (which, after looking at his other work, certainly seems to be the case)? Why should he limit himself creatively to appeal to a larger crowd? Besides if you consider this to have any shock value at all you have clearly been raised in a very protective environment. I don't think a pair of tits will shock anyone who's spend some time on the internet.

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Posted at: 10/26/09 12:31 PM

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You can call it 'artistic style' if you want to, but the point people here are trying to make that due to his 'artistic style', not many will want to work with him. If I were looking for a project (which I'm not atm), I wouldn't want to work with him either on this project due to him giving a cat unshaped saggy boobs, lol.


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Wow, first I'm glad someone answered my post ! Thx

Second I find it very funny and interesting you can consider a creature like that obcene (it's what you suggested, right ?). As I'm still a student and don't have any commercial contract, I have no age restriction and I enjoy it. I am not fond of no limit pornography art. My only restriction is my own decency and believe me it's a big one. Because I have my own privacy and some things I just don't want to share with other people. If you consider breasts as obscene, it's just because they have been hidden from you since you're young so when you see one (even drawn!) it's shocking. I fight against that. What you don't know is that I'm a feminist activist and part of my work is about the misunderstandings between genders and their representations. You can see each character in this game has a female characteristic (eyelashes, curves, sexy legs). Those breasts aren't shown as an erotic object I think. The fact is, you don't even tell what feeling grows in you when you like at this female monster. You just point it and say "there are breasts !" so it's difficult for me to argue to this point. Is it erotic to you ? disrespectful ? I had fun drawing them, just as the monkey's ass.

Third, I'm sad you wouldn't code because of that. I'll have to find somebody else.


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I guess I didn't emphasize my point enough. I don't have a problem with breasts. What I find disturbing is that they are on a CAT. I like animals, especially cute little furry creatures to which group cats fall in to. You portraying a cute genderless creature in a vulgar way like that, to me is little disturbing. And yes I said genderless. I know there are mama-cats and papa-cats but when I look at a cat I don't see it's gender, I see a cute cat, it's gender is meaningless to me. So if you were looking to shock people with that, you succeeded at least with me, but not because I saw bare saggy breasts for the first time, but because I saw them first time on a CAT.


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I find it funny

People here are just sensitive faggots.

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At 10/26/09 05:34 PM, ProfessorFlash wrote: I don't have a problem with breasts. What I find disturbing is that they are on a CAT.

You're, uh.. You're new to the internet, huh?

The guy wasn't going for 'shock value' or anything, he just created something how he wanted it to be created. Did you bitch and moan when you saw the Sistine Chapel's ceiling wasn't full of bananas? He's the artist and he created his artwork in the image he conceived. If you don't like it, then don't look at it. Problem solved.

Regarding the dude's actual request for a programmer - what would be expected, how much work would there be, etc? Any compensation? I may be interested in helping you out, just need to know if I could fit it into my current schoolwork, etc.

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That art..its so odd, I think it scares me :P

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At 10/26/09 06:40 PM, DashDingo wrote: You're, uh.. You're new to the internet, huh?

The guy wasn't going for 'shock value' or anything, he just created something how he wanted it to be created. Did you bitch and moan when you saw the Sistine Chapel's ceiling wasn't full of bananas? He's the artist and he created his artwork in the image he conceived. If you don't like it, then don't look at it. Problem solved.

You're... uh.. You're a retard, huh? Way to not understand shit. What a fucking dumb post.


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At 10/26/09 09:34 PM, ProfessorFlash wrote: You're... uh.. You're a retard, huh? Way to not understand shit. What a fucking dumb post.

You missed my point. He can make whatever the fuck kind of art he wants. It's not to "shock" people like you that can't handle some anthropomorphism, it's so he can express whatever he wants to express.

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At 10/26/09 06:20 PM, destructin wrote: I find it funny

People here are just sensitive faggots.

Yeah I heard faggots are pretty sensitive

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to the OP:

I can understand your intention better now. Still don't like it though... But that's because I'm not a fan of tearing down cultural values - at least not to such an extent. The whole 'free your body' movement was and is a mistake. Though it may have been done with good intentions, it serves to desensitise people, emphasise the physical and enable pornographers to push further and closer to the public eye. Modesty is an important part of being human and it can't and shouldn't be thrown away entirely. Keeping women in full body suits or obligating them to cover up their wrists and ankles is excessive certainly, but a balance must be maintained. Modesty is beautiful.


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Posted at: 10/27/09 05:03 AM

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I don't really like the way it's going here. Stop insulting people on this post, thx.

I understand what your point is ProfessorFlash. You're right : It IS disturbing. But it is a monster, not a cat. That's why it laughs too. Here are two drawings of female cats I found in a book about monsters after I made my own. One is an african illustration and the other is from india.

I'm aware that when you do something, you'll have an audience. I am 23 and want more games like killer7 even if I love pikmin. I think it's about time to explore what we can do in a game. That's why, even if my game looks like an rpg, it's actually a puzzle game. And on newgrounds, there are ratings to protect children from a game trauma so I think it's cool.

The game doesn't exist yet, why I posted here is not to defend this game, it's to find a developper to help me making it. So if you want to be part of a game people will talk about a lot (seems like) please join. The work here isn't big at all. It's an eyemaze's grow type game :

"Grow cube" game

If you're a student that's perfect because I'm too. That's why there won't be any compensation it's a work you'll put in your portfolio to show people what you can do. It will be my first teamwork with a programmer and I'm looking forward to it !

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the indian monster

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Will you lot stop derailing the thread into an artistic debate.
Anyway, I like your style and the concept, if I had time I'd take this up but I'm quite busy right now.
Good luck, though.

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I'm not quite sure what a Grow-type puzzle game is, can you explain it a bit more.
Are you planning to get the game sponsored?

If there was a reason to the breasts then I might script it but you should probably re-think them.


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Posted at: 10/27/09 08:37 AM

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Ok, I consider the artistic / nudity plot over. If you want to, I'll answer any PM. If you hesitate helping me with the code because of the breasts, just stop considering working on this game, it'll be easier this way. I expect people working on a game to be proud of it, that's why it's so important.

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What I call a grow-type game is a puzzle game which works more or less like a mastermind. You have to click on eight buttons (two by character) to see the eight different actions. for example, one action is putting a seed in the grow, the other is a rain dance so you have to do it in this order, else it's gonna rain before the seed is in the ground. It gets more complicated when it's not that obvious and when there are not 2 but 8 actions. It's a game you have to restart again and again until you figure out the right combination.

You have to play eyezmaze games to fully understand how this is going to work.
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Posted at: 10/30/09 03:51 AM

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Would somebody help me coding this ?


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Posted at: 11/5/09 12:30 PM

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anyone ?


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