Forum Topic: 5 man collab 4 the "noir" section

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Posted at: 11/5/09 12:21 AM

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Mh..Still can't think of anything involving purple but I'll manage, maybe I'll make a draft of my "Lady Noir" in a bit.

Let's see what happens O_o

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I guess I'll start with 24 fps...I tried beginning on animating until I had just realized I was working with default 12. Lawl.

And Xionico, instead of thinking of what's purple, think of utilizing purple as abstract lighting. You're working with a lot of shadows, white, and the color of your choice. Light-sources could play off each other, having purple behind a character, and white in front could paint interesting frames...or visa-versa.

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I think 30 fps keeps it smooth, 24 is the bare minimum for the illusion of motion.

Also who's doing the music? We need a hard-boiled-trumpet-heavy-50's-style soundtrack.

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At 11/5/09 12:59 AM, zappawadda wrote: I think 30 fps keeps it smooth, 24 is the bare minimum for the illusion of motion.

Gruhh....we need RedHarvest to tell us what the uniform frame-rate's going to be...

Also who's doing the music? We need a hard-boiled-trumpet-heavy-50's-style soundtrack.

I suggest hitting up the Audio Portal. That's where I found the track that I'm going to use, and it would be helping out the Audio NG Users when we credit their songs alongside the submission information.

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Posted at: 11/5/09 01:22 PM

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How's everybody doing? Where's everybody at?

I'm getting a few friends of mine to voice in my short, when it dawned on me that I had nothing in writing, so I got to work on a split script for every single frame in the animation; a little something I learned in Storyboarding.

One side details the Video, or what's seen, establishing what shot it is (I listed them in a previous post in this thread) the lighting, and the movements, actions. The other side of the script details the Sound portion, including dialogue and SFX.

I'm about eight frames in on what's likely to be a 40+ short. I'll keep you posted the more I developed.

I found the track that'll be used as background ambience from the Audio Portal, I recommend you do the same, and help out other users like us.

I have great ideas for sound effects, and I've thought of each that I need. High heels on wood, a silenced bullet shooting through flesh and embedding into the wooden seat, and the ejected cartridge, as well as an open/shut door, safety *click* on the gun, and appropriate texture noises like the soft rustle of clothing with body movement, and shit like that. I can record all of these, just some sooner than later.

Up the activity in this thread! Let us all know where you're at!

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Posted at: 11/5/09 02:32 PM

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just wondering, dudes, if you've seen batman gotham knigh, what if we make it like that? like different people's view of Lady Noir...

btw, i worked at 30 fps... is that alright?


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Posted at: 11/5/09 02:43 PM

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Oh and in activity I'm done with 7.2 seconds...

Man i'm really gonna need some cool sfx, like a tommy gun, 50's style handguns, bullets against metal skin, skin ripping, blood gushing, and maybe some sexual moaning and bed rocking...


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Posted at: 11/5/09 05:28 PM

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YES YES YES...its 24 fps....my bad for not mentioning that....im just so used to always doing it at 24 that i forgot to mention!

my humblest apologies gentlemen

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sorry for double post but i guess its neccesarry....

Im ok with doing 30 actually since denzel has already started...is everyone else ok with that?

Also...i have seen gotham knight! i think we should take it JUST like they did with that...different perspectives on the same character! good reference

ALSO- as far as audio (@fatkid) I am not using voicing in mine...just a short original song composed by my good friend and voice actor (anyone may contact him if they need voices as well) LETOVOX

sooo to reiterate....30 ok with people? its fine with me.

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30's fine by me...this'll be the fastest I've ever animated; I'm interested in how it will turn out.

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Here's a rough draft, just trying to get her design down. My major problem is every time I draw her face, it's inconsistent. I need to somehow make it simple enough where I can get it right every time.

The more I draw the female body, though, the better I become at getting the proportions right....this flash project is going to be challenging for me.

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Posted at: 11/6/09 12:29 AM

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Back to the music issue, I'm planning on using tracks from newgrounds, but would having a song outside of newgrounds playing on the radio in the background be allowed. Something like Frank Sinatra's New York or something kinda old and jazzy? Only for a couple shots.


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i'd say its ok if u wanna put a track in thats not from newgrounds. as long as it adds to your scene!

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At 11/5/09 08:25 PM, Phobotech wrote: Here's a rough draft, just trying to get her design down. My major problem is every time I draw her face, it's inconsistent. I need to somehow make it simple enough where I can get it right every time.

wow lookin' good!


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any progress gentlemen?

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finished the lines for my part, are there any spanish dudes here, or at least could pronounce spanish well to voice for some of the lines? And maybe make corrections, i can't really speak spanish i just used a translator...


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errmmm....haha not i

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At 11/9/09 11:50 AM, denzel-crocker wrote: finished the lines for my part, are there any spanish dudes here, or at least could pronounce spanish well to voice for some of the lines? And maybe make corrections, i can't really speak spanish i just used a translator...

I grew up around Mexicans...I could give it a shot.

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Actually, I'm sorry Denzel, but I really don't think I can do it...I feel bad for offering before thinking it out.

The stress from my mid-terms recently were vented out in my celebrations for Halloween, but it's only been added and multiplied into stress for Finals coming up. I had fooled myself into thinking I could balance both projects, but this shit is eating up my time and energy.

I'm going to have to remain focused on schoolwork...Blue is up for grabs, and I'm politely bowing out of the collaboration.

RedHarvest, didn't your buddy EagleStudio want to join? Get his ass back here so he has time to do something decent before the deadline.

Good luck guys.

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Posted at: 11/10/09 04:19 AM

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@Phobotech:
Oh too bad, i saw your work in the last collab it looked really sweet, well good luck with your finals man, i hope you get good grades, of course your future is not something you sacrifice for your hobby i completely understand dude...

I dunno if this would work for everyone but i saw it in a magazine years ago and it works for me... To draw bodies fast: Practice by not using the grids and cross markers but only use "C's". Just letter C's. Start at the spinalchord or groin area (or boobs if applicable) and continue the rest of the body using strokes that resemble the letter C and avoid doing erasures... Use a pen for better training, just lots of C's...

BTW, Are there any other spanish speaking dudes here?

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damn phobo....that blows man...thanks for lettin us know early on. best of luck with ur studies

@ denzel- did u post something in the voice actor wanted ads? in the audio forum?

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havent tried the audio forums yet, ive made about 20seconds now, really need spanish voice guy... maybe will post in audio forums


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Aw hell, I'm sorry Phobotech. If you have any free time don't hesitate to join right back up.

Also for Denzel, send over some lines and you can see if the accent/language is to your liking.

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PM'ed you some of the lines dude, hope it works out....


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It's gonna take a while to get them to you, got mad Swine Flu right now...

On the other hand this sore throat might make me sound tough and latin.

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hey awesome


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Can I take Phobotech's spot? That is if it's still open.

And I would like to use brown if that's possible. I can do blue if I you need me to but I'd like to use brown because I want to make a sort of sequel to zappawadda's story (with his permission, of course). If I must do blue I would like Phobotech's permission to just animate the story he has already posted. And maybe with a few touches of my own.

Imagine that the male hero (wearing a brown trench coat and hat) recovers from his encounter with the Lady and hunts her down to set things right. And the ending of my part could be that he gets what he wants and the Lady is dead or in jail (which would make a great ending to the collab). Or she can escape again after killing him or knocking him out again--thus turning him into her archenemy if there is any more stories left to about the Lady.

You can choose the ending based on whether you want to make a sequel collab with the Lady or not. I think it'd be cool to do that and if I can't be in this collab I'd like to be in that one. The sequel collab doesn't even have to be the same characters. You just do another collab with the "black/white/one color" rule and the noir theme.

By the way, what color is zappawadda doing? I hope not brown.

The below picture shows a character from Sega's Eternal Champions. He is basically what I have in mind for the zappawadda's male hero.

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Forgot to say that it'd be cool to see zappa's story start the collab and mine finish it. Coming full circle usually hints at more stories to come.

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Posted at: 11/13/09 02:55 AM

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@frameslinger....sorry to say..but after checking out your brief work history, i dont feel you are up to the skill level we are looking for....eaglestudio will be taking over for the blue part. I will say though...you are welcome to animate a part for BROWN, and give it to me...if it is up to scratch then i will include it..if not....im sorry....

its a risk....but thats part of me making sure this collaboration is of a high quality!

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Posted at: 11/13/09 12:21 PM

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At 11/13/09 02:55 AM, RedHarvest wrote: @frameslinger....sorry to say..but after checking out your brief work history, i dont feel you are up to the skill level we are looking for...you are welcome to animate a part for BROWN, and give it to me...if it is up to scratch then i will include it..if not....im sorry....

I understand but my past works were long ago. Thanks for the chance. I will get to work.

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