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At 10/25/09 06:53 PM, RockMessiah123 wrote:

At 10/23/09 07:35 PM, GiantDouche wrote: Take the red pill and you wake up back in the forum, not remembering anything of this topic. Take the blue pill and I show you how deep this shitty, pseudoscience thread goes.

what if i take both?

You get mindfucked. Quite literally.

At 10/23/09 07:21 PM, PureCarnage wrote: I have been an advid lucid dreamer for over 20 years. I have had over 3,000 out-of-body experiences and I have observed dreams that one day later come true and become this reality. I have even changed dreams of this nature, and those changes have happened here.

The dream thing I know about cos i often have it where I go to a place then in 4 years i end up going there. lol I drempt of a bbq and it happened :D it was full of old people D:

So wait, so I have been making fun of people playing wow all this time and then it turns out I am some fat fuck strapped to a virtual reality machine?!

So why do some people choose to be unhappy, poor, dying and such if we could choose to have our characters be perfectly molded gods?

I think you should readWhat Dreams May Come by Richard Matheson. It is about a man's experiences after death. Matheson does a great job of creating plausible explanations for seemingly implausible things, like life after death. It is titled after a section of the famous soliloquy about death in Hamlet.

To be, or not to be: that is the question:
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune,
Or to take arms against a sea of troubles,
And by opposing end them? To die: to sleep;
No more; and by a sleep to say we end
The heart-ache and the thousand natural shocks
That flesh is heir to, 'tis a consummation
Devoutly to be wish'd. To die, to sleep;
To sleep: perchance to dream: ay, there's the rub;
For in that sleep of death what dreams may come
When we have shuffled off this mortal coil,
Must give us pause: there's the respect
That makes calamity of so long life;
For who would bear the whips and scorns of time,
The oppressor's wrong, the proud man's contumely,
The pangs of disprized love, the law's delay,
The insolence of office and the spurns
That patient merit of the unworthy takes,
When he himself might his quietus make
With a bare bodkin? who would fardels bear,
To grunt and sweat under a weary life,
But that the dread of something after death,
The undiscover'd country from whose bourn
No traveller returns, puzzles the will
And makes us rather bear those ills we have
Than fly to others that we know not of?
Thus conscience does make cowards of us all;
And thus the native hue of resolution
Is sicklied o'er with the pale cast of thought,
And enterprises of great pitch and moment
With this regard their currents turn awry,
And lose the name of action.

God will take you when he feels that you're ready. Remember, the only way to God is through Christ.

Hm. i like this guy's views. gives a meaning to a death panorama.
Good to see theres a very well educated man on newgrounds that actually believes in something past death.

When you die, don't you just respawn from the graveyard?

so kill your self already, stop hogging that healthy liver!

So wheres my epic loot then?

and what if my account gets hacked?

At 10/25/09 06:33 PM, Isoken wrote:

At 10/23/09 08:29 PM, StrangelyMauled wrote:

At 10/23/09 07:25 PM, SaBErT00thedT0Ad wrote: HOLY SHIT! I have those same dreams where I'll dream somthing and (sometime, not allways a day) it'll happen.

EPIC

It happens to me sometimes. But its always lame, never any of my good dreams. My life sucks.

I hear you on this one.

May I point out now that there are at least 4 people now admitting to dreams coming true. I know this is anedotal evidence of the pheomena but to those people they at least have personal expeirence to relate to one of the expeirences I have listed.

Are we living in a virtual reality simulator? Is life a Game? Why the shitty lives, why death and disease... think rule-set and gameplay here people.

I really want to talk about Precognitive Dreaming because I know some (not all) of you will have had at least one really mind blowing expeirence with this and perhaps have your eyes opened a little bit to a greater reality. Let's call this the "Big Picure".

Dreams are a virtual reality simulation that you, the dreamer are able to create as naturally as breathing. They span a "spectrum" much like the electromagnetic spectrum except the energy is "thought" and not some electrical charge.

Dreams are thought. There is no other way to sugar coat this truth. They are thoughts organized in such a way to convey a three-dimensional virtual reality simulation that you effortlessly create. Think about how powerful your mind must be to not only create the setting, the plot, the action and all the visual stimuli, but also project everything into this virtual hologram of thought and place you smack in the center of it, so you can have this dream expeirence.

Well that's all fine and dandy, we all have dreams and who cares, so what. What you deam the importance or value of such a profound thing such as dreaming is your own personal bias. Personally, I find them facinating, other worldly and entertaining more so then movies and video games here as I am the main actor in some trippy dream reality system.

Dreams are an extension of our experiential consciousness which allows us to experience other things aside from what we expeirence here. Just another natural form of reality generation in the form of dreams. Dreams are of themselves a type of reality. They are a reality that you create. Your thoughts create the reality that is a dream.

How does this explain how dreams come true? Why the deja vu and seemingly impossible feat that some (not all) dreams have this amazing potential to suddenly become a future event in this reality.

I will attempt to explain this in such a way that it will make some sense. Let's start first with breaking down "reality" into two components.

Physical Reality - "This moment you are having right now."
Non-Physical Reality - "A reality of pure thought, pure consciousness which your dreams are made of."

Dreams are non-physical reality based experiences. Anything that you dream occurs in non-physical reality. If this reality is real to you or not is merely your belief of what reality is. Is reality something you percieve and experience as yourself? If the answer is yes, then a dream fits within a reality category.

Let's start first with what happens when you fall asleep. I have created a diagram which represents you as being awake, focused and self aware. Represented by a beam of light. Sleep is represented as a prism, where your focused consciousness then becomes fractal and layered into many layers within this dreaming spectrum.

There is a line which represents what you gleam from this journey in sleep. Each peak and valley into this overall dream experience represents the dreams you have, and how they impact your over all development. This assumes... very important... assumes you remember details from each layer you flucuate in.

Notice one of the layers is the Precognitive Layer. What you gleam from this layer ultimately represents the memory of a dream that comes true in this reality.

To complicate this formula even more, some layers are easier to remember then others based on emotional charge. Even more complicated is that when you wake up, this wave of dreaming collapses into memory and can easily fade into unconscious memory.

So how does that precognitive layer come true? What's the secret?

The answer is not always easy to explain, but imagine the electromagnetic spectrum has a high-frequency band in the beyond "GAMMA" range. Here is a link to the electromagnetic spectrum so you have a visual representation to look at.

The Electromagnetic Spectrum

Now lets say that gamma is the future, and the visual spectrum in that diagram is the "Now". Imagine that your dream creates an organized thought pattern of high-frequency beyond gamma radiation that resonates as this holographic data packet which is now very very tiny.

As this holographic data packet starts to slow down in frequency towards the visual spectrum... meaning it becomes more in synch with the "now" in time/space that we have. When it reaches the visual spectrum, it becomes actualized and we now experience this high-frequency beyond gamma holographic data packet as it becomes realized in time/space when it attunes the frequency of the visual spectrum.

This is a detailed metaphor, but I assure you, it is very accurate in how high-frequency precognitive dream data packets actualize in our holographic reality.

Now you have to wonder, did you see the future or create the future in a dream?

You are the dreamer. I'll let you come to that conclusion on your own. Hope this helps shine some light and some pseudo-mumbo science on the topic.

At 10/23/09 07:35 PM, GiantDouche wrote: Take the red pill and you wake up back in the forum, not remembering anything of this topic. Take the blue pill and I show you how deep this shitty, pseudoscience thread goes.

Ill take the blue one, Im not scared of learning even tough the theory is probably shit

I fear humanity, for it shall end what should not end over petty matters. Death is only a part of life, a part I shall not fear.

At 10/26/09 03:58 PM, PureCarnage wrote: too much to quote

That theory is pretty impressive, but our minds are so much different from computers.
Where computers can only render things by mathematical formulas, we don't, we think directly in image, sound an feeling.

alltough maybe you could compare it.

At 10/26/09 04:11 PM, robin1232 wrote:

At 10/26/09 03:58 PM, PureCarnage wrote: too much to quote

That theory is pretty impressive, but our minds are so much different from computers.
Where computers can only render things by mathematical formulas, we don't, we think directly in image, sound an feeling.

alltough maybe you could compare it.

However, if you understand biophysics as it applies to the human brain, you will find that in fact, the human brain does function like a computer. Not just any computer mind you, a Quantum Super Computer.

This will really explain a lot when you start to break down the human mind into it's quantized bits. First of all, the brain has a series of cells we know called synapsis. These are composed of micro-tubules which are the central processing portion of the cell wall.

These tubes are composed of a photosensative nearly binary switching mechanism where information is literally calculated and shared. What is interesting here, at this cellular and quantum level of the human brain is this:

The brain takes incoherant energies (thermal, chemical and electrical) and transforms them into quantum coherant photons. Think about that, it uses "Photons", light... to start the basis of it's communication foundation.

This is where the Quantum nature of the Quantum super-computer comes into play. As you know, photons are light particles and offer all sorts of phenomena such as Quantum Entanglement where a photon can exist in two places of space at the same time.

The nature of quantum mechanics now apply to the nature of human consciousness and it is this very nature of how photon energy is organized by the brain, in a quantum energy pattern that could very well fit into my described theory.

That in a high-frequency dream that is precognitive in nature, the brain has now assumed a very specific and particular pattern state that molds a hologrpahic photon based data packet. And if you understand holograms and theory, a hologram that is very tiny becomes very large as it moves through time/space.

I am just trying to link a physical link to a non-physical phenomena.

The reason why we think and computers do not is because we are sentient consciousness and have evolved the ability to think. It is a natural component of consciousness.

Quantum super computers... each of us has one, but do we know how the hell to use it?

At 10/25/09 07:42 PM, UberCream wrote: When you die, don't you just respawn from the graveyard?

Actually, you do end up in a spirit graveyard. Let me share my personal experience on this.

This is a documentary on a Boy who clearly remembers his past life and nearly every detail he remembers is verified in the documentary with a Psychologist.

Like this boy, I too have past life memory. Unlike this boy, I have a much larger overview of what is actually going on. Let me start at the basics.

Before this life, I was existing as a soldier in a war. The memories I have today pale in comparisson to how well I remembered it when I was two years old. I'm an old fart now so these memories are over 34 years in the past for me. However some of them I cannot forget.

In the previous life, I died lying in a trench looking down the site of a wooden bolt action rifle. It is most likely a shot in the head that killed me. I remember the sudden shock, and then hearing what I thought was water dripping near my ear. I could hear the drops and they would be the last sounds I would hear as everything just shut off.

It was exactly like a TV tube turning off when the image gathers to the center of the tube and for but a split second it then fades to nothing. It really felt like being turned off. The water sound was actually blood, pooling by my ear. And it became so haunting a memory that water dripping to this day still creeps me out from the memory of dying in the former life.

What happened next is the spirit graveyard stuff. A being of light descended and emmited a beam of energy like a tractor beam and just lifted me up through all these undescribable layers. I was given a bit of a tour.

One stop of great interest was this lake which I was waist deep in. I remember reaching my hand in the water and pulled up these dime sized circles that emmited radiation. The being told me that they like me, were waiting to return to Life. And like them, I must go back.

I remember arguing with the being about not wanting to go back, that it was crazy there. People where killing each other and I wanted nothing to do with it. The being would insist that I must go back and that this time it would be different.

As a child, I would leave my body and go back to this being and complain and argue about being sent back. I would be traumatised by the memories of the war, the death process and faded ghost like memories of my family would haunt me.

It was when I was 5 years old that I remember looking in the mirror in our old house in the bathroom remembering that I was someone else. And that I was this kid now. I literally just decided to let go of that former self and just be this kid. That would be the last time for years that I would even remember this.

That all changed at the age of 15.

That's some of my personal expeirence with it. Not something I read in books or fantasized about. These memories preceed this life, hard to explain, but the memories are and always have been there.

At 10/23/09 07:25 PM, SaBErT00thedT0Ad wrote: HOLY SHIT! I have those same dreams where I'll dream somthing and (sometime, not allways a day) it'll happen.

EPIC

I do too, though I attribute mine to coincidence and what I *wish* were true. I don't know if it is.

here is the Link...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdmMEKPFD TY

I thought I pasted it but guess not.

I think that this forum has taken the Blue pill. Gulp...

Believe me, life can be fun and painful.
But yes, death is a new beginning.

We are only chemical reactions. We aren't alive.

I'm just gonna wait here for a machine in which I can live eternally in a world I created.

At 10/26/09 06:26 PM, PBass wrote: We are only chemical reactions. We aren't alive.

We are also thermodynamic, electromagnetic and radioactive energies.

What we really are, is consciousness. Which I think is more important then even being alive. Thought is probably the most important energy we posses but has yet to find its place amongst science as a form of energy.

Perhaps because it appears as in order as an organization of energy, not an energy organizer.

At 10/26/09 06:30 PM, Racoonmario wrote: I'm just gonna wait here for a machine in which I can live eternally in a world I created.

What if you already exist in something eternal, but just a little more psychologically overwhelming?

Don't make yourself wait

An Hero if your so fucking desperate you goddam degenerate

How do you know you aren't some crazy guy sitting in an asylum somewhere as a different creature on a different planet?

"Poor Ghfinahk, He hasn't been the same since he lost his Sxhort. Just rocking there back and forth, waving his tentacles in the air."

Your family (Foomfdafoomf) never visits you because you smell like faksu and eat your own kikin. Each day is long and slow, and you delve deeper into the insanity that is this world. If only you could snap out of it. Maybe then you could get better, and return to your happy home in Fksdfiaeihammen.

Since we are focused into a virtual reality system whereby we let go the memory of our former self... it is much like that. Who we think we are here, is merely a game character where we are the player.

Red Dwarf's BTL episode is a comical way of looking at it.

Ive seen things that haven't happened to me yet in dreams and in the next day or whenever after the dream, it would be there.