At 10/22/09 01:34 AM, RightWingGamer wrote:
At 10/21/09 08:01 PM, EclecticEnnui wrote:
then why make an entire thread about the posters?
At 10/21/09 06:56 PM, RightWingGamer wrote:
I've actually been thinking about it before. I didn't just look at the posters and say, "Wow. I'm gonna be a vegetarian or a vegan the moment I get home."
At 10/21/09 04:45 PM, EclecticEnnui wrote:
A poster campaign was launched in Toronto's subway system, this year, regarding animal rights and meat eating.so a poster changed your entire lifestyle, why do i detect gullibility?
The thread isn't just about posters. It's about the website I linked to a few times, morals of eating meat, etc.
think! we've all read stories about dogs, horses, or sometimes even birds saving people's lives... but when have you ever heard of a cow, pig, or chicken doing it?
Can you prove all that, minus the milk and hamburger part?
The posters said, "Why love one but eat the other?"because cows don't play fetch, beg for affection, bark when there's trouble, or help you in any other way besides milk and hamburger.
I've never read stories about horses or birds saving people. That wasn't the point, though. I was asking you to prove cows won't play with people, beg for affection, and notice when there's trouble. Provide some sources.
Other pets may not do those things, but you still care for them.exactly why it's a bad idea to keep a fish or an ant farm as a pet.
*best general greivous impression* i plan to.
Then prove them wrong.
There'd be a dog or cat on the left and a chicken, pig, or cow on the right, along with interesting facts about the latter animals,"facts" in the loosest form of the word.
Again, what? I'm asking you to prove them wrong, like providing sources.
Again, prove it.
like how they can be just as loving and intelligent as dogs and cats.like i said, dogs and cats know that humans are friends, cows and pigs don't.
That doesn't help me.
I covered that in my last post.
I'm a meat eater, but that's only because I was brought up that way. My parents never told me why we eat meat,it's yummy.
"Well, do you eat chemically produced meat with sauce and spices? How often does a person, especially from first world countries, cut a piece from an animal, cook it, and eat it like that? If the meat you eat is delicious, it's probably not just meat."
i smell an attack on capitalism coming our way.
It's a money issue.
about the abuse that happens on factory farms (shown on the site),then how about reform?
etc. The factory farm abuse is probably nothing new to you guys,like i said, reform the factories, but don't do something stupid.
Just because I said it's a money issue? Hollywood and the fast food industry are generally about making money, for example. Google them and prove me wrong.
Also, the vast majority of the public is probably not aware of the abuse.and your point...?
If they did, they wouldn't buy the meat and the companies wouldn't make money.i'm aware, but i still love the taste of animal flesh.
Well, you don't represent everyone. Besides, don't you care that animals feel pain? Would you be OK if dogs and cats are raised for food by being thrown in overcrowded slaughterhouses?
Once they know why people aren't buying meat, they'd hopefully change their ways.dude, people will keep buying meet regardless of everything. however, i can see them gravitating towards "organic" meat. i myself switched to organic milk and never went back.
Wait. When you say everything, you mean, for instance, they don't care about the conditions of the slaughterhouses, the moral issues, the health issues, and the environmental issues? They probably don't care because they don't know. Ignorance =/= bliss. If you can prove people (and I guess you mean everyone) will buy meat regardless of everything, I'll take an interest.
it's a joke, dude.
You've tried them?
but what about comparing dogs and cats to these animals?dogs and cats don't taste good.
Well, it was subtle enough that it didn't sound like a joke.
and did you add spices and sauce to them,actually, that's a good thing.
Yeah, it does amplify the taste, but refer back to the quote you asked for.
like other animals used for meat? Even so, it's just one opinion.dude, we all know that a vast majority of america is against animal rights. it's become a joke.
Uh-huh... Prove it with sources.
you talk about it like everyone's gonna "change".
Yes, I am, but that doesn't mean I'm never gonna change.
So far, for me, being vegetarian or vegan doesn't sound like a bad idea.i thought you were a meat-eater. you said so above.
From the FAQ:
"It's unrealistic to expect that everyone will stop eating animals overnight. As the demand for meat decreases, the number of animals bred will decrease. Farmers will stop breeding so many animals and will turn to other types of agriculture. When there are fewer of these animals, they will be able to live more natural lives."
so to just stop like that isn't gonna happen. I might have to read kits and recipes to help change.no you're comparing it to stuff like smoking, drinking, and drugs. is there no end?!
I never mentioned those, although truth be told, smoking and obesity are the biggest causes of death in America.
As a side note, how come you never responded to my argument about mandatory fat camps?the thread got boring, so i went here instead.
I wasn't referring to the thread, itself. I was referring to my rebuttal to your post.