Flash CS5

[JimmyDallas]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9y-KIu69 dc

Have any of the flash users here seen this video?
What do you think of these new functions?

[naronic]

the whole program will suck donkey balls

[JKR]

Are you serious?! Give me a freaking break. This is insane. Just make the freaking program last for more than a year and a half, freaking Adobe! FREAKING!

>:(

[Innermike]

This sucks dick.

the portal will have at least 5 million submissions a day

Even worse than that
n00bs making flash and getting praised for 5 mins of preset crap that would have taken us months >:(

Everything all flash coders have learned , rendered useless . This will backfire on adobe.

They will regret the day they launched CS5 , oh believe me they will.

[MintPaw]

At 10/17/09 08:30 PM, JimmyDallas wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9y-KIu69 dc

Have any of the flash users here seen this video?
What do you think of these new functions?

Gosh this is just plain junk.

Who would want to make a game like that in flash?!
You should obviously use something more adv. like C++

Most people just wanna make simple browser based games not iphone, xbox, pc, air, etc... compatible games. >.<

[zuperxtreme]

That's sexy.

[Innermike]

At 10/19/09 06:30 PM, sasuke2910 wrote: Most people just wanna make simple browser based games not iphone, xbox, pc, air, etc... compatible games. >.<

On the contrary 90% of the people i know would love to be able to make a game on a different platform especialy iphone and being able to do it in flash makes the offer even more tempting
.

I dont see how its a bad thing though

Preset scripts = bad
Multi platform developement = good

[Nateofwar]

cmon man i just got cs4 (well it was free but still)
and all the new stuff even though its going to make all the portals flooded with ametures with money who will make what used to be hard tasks in a matter of minutes.... oh well i guess that just means that people wil have to be even more inovatiive now if they want to stay ahead of the curve... lol cant wait to see the crazy stuff some peeps are gunna come up with

[naronic]

do you people really think n00bs are really going to take off with this AS helper program?

c'mon guy's, since when has adobe been known to release ANY new tools without there being some huge glitch or update to make it work?

90% says this tool with be some useless glitchy gadget, and n00bs too lazy to actually learn the scripting language will just flame and whine to adobe "I WANSTA MAKE A GAME IN 3 MINUTES!!!"

[Nateofwar]

90% says this tool with be some useless glitchy gadget, and n00bs too lazy to actually learn the scripting language will just flame and whine to adobe "I WANSTA MAKE A GAME IN 3 MINUTES!!!"

good point

[Innermike]

At 10/19/09 07:55 PM, naronic wrote: c'mon guy's, since when has adobe been known to release ANY new tools without there being some huge glitch or update to make it work?

That is very true , in fact flash cs4 still isnt running as well as it should , adobe need to slow the fuck down
Oh sure adobe gave us AS3 but sometimes i dont know if it was worth it ...

Joke BTW AS3 FTW

[KazaKaza]

I'm just happy whit my flash 8

[Innermike]

At 10/19/09 09:36 PM, KazaKaza wrote: I'm just happy whit my flash 8

So i take it you have no intention of advancing as a programmer ?

Thats fine personally i dont think these have to be released so quickly

CS4 is a CS3 extension and CS5 is a CS4 extension

Adobe is turning into windows !! D=

[NegativeONE]

Good to see they're really paying attention to detail after the frustrating clusterfuck that is CS4 -___-

[HarryControl]

At 10/19/09 09:36 PM, KazaKaza wrote: I'm just happy whit my flash 8

Me too

unless someone can convince me that its worth to fork out another several hundred dollars that I don't have on it.

[Montycarlo]

At 10/19/09 09:48 PM, hdxmike wrote: CS4 is a CS3 extension and CS5 is a CS4 extension
Adobe is turning into windows !! D=

You forget that Flash 8 is derived off Flash 7, and so the recursive event begins.

[simonhason]

That physics thing is pretty useless. See how long it took to render a few balls going down a funnel into a basket, and with nothing in terms of graphics too. Not only did it take forever to render but the final outcome was 200 keyframes X however many layers that took.

I really wish they would have fixed issues with previous versions then add on new tools that will glitch just as bad. I miss Macromedia owning flash, every new version was like Christmas.

[DashDingo]

I think it's sick that it can export to iPhone and iTouch.

As for everyone screaming "omg noobz!" - it's not like the portal will get flooded with premade shit. If it does, it'll just get recognized as such, and get blammed anyway. There are programs out there that make games for you to begin with, such as Game Maker, RPG Maker, FPS Maker, etc etc. Do you see a billion kids saying "OMFG CHECK OUT MAH GAEM"? No.

tldr: I'm in it for the iPhone shit.

[farfenwaffle]

Physics? REALLY?! Where will style go? What happened to an inbetween? What happened to animation? I hope that adobe brings back the stuff that makes you feel acomplished when you make a movie. Like, oh I don't know... animation?Hard work? I already miss feeling special for making a good animation.

[PBass]

Don't worry about stuff made with shortcuts. That just raises the bar, causing even better flashes to be made.

[Wolfos]

uhmm... guys, has anyone noticed that it lags as hell, I mean, what's the point in making games that are as slow as that?

[Montycarlo]

At 10/20/09 05:48 AM, robin1232 wrote: uhmm... guys, has anyone noticed that it lags as hell, I mean, what's the point in making games that are as slow as that?

Notice how it's a 3D application on an iPhone?
I don't believe most people will be exporting 3D flash games to the iPhone.

[Wolfos]

At 10/20/09 05:56 AM, Montycarlo wrote:

At 10/20/09 05:48 AM, robin1232 wrote: uhmm... guys, has anyone noticed that it lags as hell, I mean, what's the point in making games that are as slow as that?

Notice how it's a 3D application on an iPhone?
I don't believe most people will be exporting 3D flash games to the iPhone.

the first one is on a pc, its running in internet explorer on about the same speeds as on iPhone

[Fion]

I think they mentioned the game was running entirely server side and the flash player was simply streaming video sent to it from the server. I'm no expert but that says to me that flash isn't the problem there.

[Version2]

At 10/20/09 12:59 AM, farfenwaffle wrote: Physics? REALLY?! Where will style go? What happened to an inbetween? What happened to animation? I hope that adobe brings back the stuff that makes you feel acomplished when you make a movie. Like, oh I don't know... animation?Hard work? I already miss feeling special for making a good animation.

It's just a prepackaged physics engine, not an animation genie. Let's say you have a character moving around shooting a gun. If the perspective of your character is changing, the physics engine isn't going to be able to animate that for you, you'll still have to do that on your own. However you could use the engine to quickly get spent shells to bounce around on the ground. The way I see it, this tool will help to animate the subtle details, while the more time can be spent animating and refining the main action.

The only thing that peeves me about this is that I JUST got CS4 (upgraded from 8). But it's not out yet, and as far as I've searched there isn't a release date yet. I've been teaching myself AS3, so hopefully by the time this comes out I can justify getting it.

Being able to develop to multiple platforms only increases the market range for flash games. They're talking about iPhone and iTouch right now, how long do you think it'll be before Google wants compatibility with the Android phones? Or for that matter, any of the phone OS's, Blackberry, Palm, Windows Mobile, Simian, ect.? Everyone has a phone, not everyone goes to flash game sites...

I know there is already Flash for phones, but I know very little about it, other than it's not full featured.

[PaperBagMask]

oh god posting in another thread with fears of the decline of animation via updated versions of Flash.

At 10/20/09 12:59 AM, farfenwaffle wrote: Physics? REALLY?! Where will style go? What happened to an inbetween? What happened to animation? I hope that adobe brings back the stuff that makes you feel acomplished when you make a movie. Like, oh I don't know... animation?Hard work? I already miss feeling special for making a good animation.

You know making motion does not mean you feel accomplished. You can easily put hours into a form of motion with frame by frame and realise it is shit. These tools just make the job easier, get over it. Animation is about skill not the tools given, any animator worth their weight in salt can produce something with frames, tweens, bones and physics. The physics do not do it all for you and I must say that in software physics engines are not the most reliable things.

[henke37]

Apparently later this year, if you count the public beta.

[Innermike]

At 10/20/09 11:57 AM, henke37 wrote: Apparently later this year, if you count the public beta.

If you dont then its april 2010

[henke37]

I would like to hear more about what your source is for that date. Because I do not find you reliable enough.