okay, everyone should agree

[robin1232]

that this movie:

Waterlollies, by chluaid Type: Movie Rating: Everyone

is waaaaay better than:

Super Mario bros Z ep.8, by Alvin-Earthworm Type: Movie Rating: Ages 13+

so why the hell is the second one on #2?

[Racoonmario]

When we talk about the top 50 we are actually talking about a complicated equation.

[robin1232]

At 10/16/09 10:07 AM, Racoonmario wrote: When we talk about the top 50 we are actually talking about a complicated equation.

what's so complicated about it then? the highest score wins!

first of all, waterlollies is beautiful and the other one is a sprite movie
second, the mario thing is copyright infringement

[ratchet103]

face it. it's cuz of the zero bomberz

[Lost-Chances]

At 10/16/09 10:06 AM, robin1232 wrote: that this movie:
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/40 8967
is waaaaay better than:
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/51 3950
so why the hell is the second one on #2?

Dipshits 0 Waterlollies because of it's age. However, they like to giggle at sprites and shitty content.

[Sizzlebuzz]

At 10/16/09 10:10 AM, robin1232 wrote:

At 10/16/09 10:07 AM, Racoonmario wrote: When we talk about the top 50 we are actually talking about a complicated equation.

what's so complicated about it then? the highest score wins!

first of all, waterlollies is beautiful and the other one is a sprite movie
second, the mario thing is copyright infringement

Copyright infringement heh. Anyway, it all depends on who likes the movies more. Many flashes aren't just based on what they are. Fans of the author that have been waiting for it, will obviously give it a 5. And with 7 prior episodes that people like, it may have many fans.

I personally have watched the Mario one. I haven't even heard of the other.

[Rokas1337]

i dont think any of them are THAT good.

does that make me different?

[Tribalfusion-X]

At 10/16/09 10:10 AM, robin1232 wrote: second, the mario thing is copyright infringement

Tell that to all the creators of the millions of mario, sonic, ... movies around.
And, no, it's not copyright infringement.

[JustsTrollingAlong]

At 10/16/09 11:10 AM, Tribalfusion-X wrote: Tell that to all the creators of the millions of mario, sonic, ... movies around.
And, no, it's not copyright infringement.

But it sure is a crappy way of making flash movies in comparison to the art and skill used in waterlillies.

A lot of this bullshit that goes on with the flashes now is why I don't mess with the rating system anymore, there is too much shit, I still blame it all on the clocks and locks; that's why I haven't messed with rating flashes with my new account, it's almost pointless now.

[SuaveSatan]

Kids like humour more than plot?

[142201]

At 10/16/09 11:04 AM, Sizzlebuzz wrote: I personally have watched the Mario one. I haven't even heard of the other.

What is this blasphemy?!

[Acid]

At 10/16/09 10:06 AM, robin1232 wrote: that this movie:
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/40 8967
is waaaaay better than:
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/51 3950
so why the hell is the second one on #2?

Well bitey is old. Very old.

Maybe it's because super mario brothers z has more to the story than a hairball trying to eat a peep. Even though I don't think alvin earthworm is a better animator than adam phillips at all.

[NeverHundred]

I really can't get past the title here. "everyone Should Agree" as if you expect a large group of people to agree on something, something they obviously don't agree on... as the evidence suggests. I find this, interesting... I should attempt to dissect this experience.

[WeirdJamFace]

At 10/16/09 10:56 AM, ratchet103 wrote: face it. it's cuz of the zero bomberz

Thankgod there are tons of people 5-bombing Tarboy!

Fuckin 0-bombers...

[Goldfire64]

another problem is waterlollies is older there for your vote has less effect on it, it commonly happens that something new and popular will come along hit front page, and because it doesn't have over a million votes yet and people are voting five it will jump up to the number one spot, Zone-sama's jinx parody is an example of this.

[Digital-Terror]

Comparing Waterlollies to smbz is like comparing a picture book to a novel, becuase Waterlollies actually has a terrible storyline.

smbz has a long, structured storyline that could go on for a long time. Quality of artwork doesn't always mean that its better.

[WhiteDJ]

At 10/16/09 11:00 AM, Lost-Chances wrote: Dipshits 0 Waterlollies because of it's age. However, they like to giggle at sprites and shitty content.

I think you mean "newfags", along with the dipshits. Personally, pure animation > shitty sprite garbage.

[Acid]

At 10/16/09 12:14 PM, WhiteDJ wrote:

At 10/16/09 11:00 AM, Lost-Chances wrote: Dipshits 0 Waterlollies because of it's age. However, they like to giggle at sprites and shitty content.

I think you mean "newfags", along with the dipshits. Personally, pure animation > shitty sprite garbage.

At 10/16/09 12:14 PM, WhiteDJ wrote:

At 10/16/09 11:00 AM, Lost-Chances wrote: Dipshits 0 Waterlollies because of it's age. However, they like to giggle at sprites and shitty content.

I think you mean "newfags", along with the dipshits. Personally, pure animation > shitty sprite garbage.

there's more to animation than pretty colors

LoZ: OoT was the best game I've ever played. Sure I can pick up a new game these days and be stunned by realistic graphics, but nothing ever beat the intense twisting storyline and adventure that LoZ offered. No game today can take over my nostalgia.

And if you're calling it "shitty sprite garbage" i doubt you've even watched it. The author obviously worked very hard on the movie.

[Digital-Terror]

At 10/16/09 12:27 PM, Acid wrote: And if you're calling it "shitty sprite garbage" i doubt you've even watched it. The author obviously worked very hard on the movie.

I agree, if you went so far as to call it that, then you either clearly haven't watched it, or don't understand it.

[gumOnShoe]

Those of you who claim that Z has better storyline than A. Phillips don't understand the subtleties of characterization or the difference between a short story and a genre filled cods wallop of a crap epic.

lol

But no really. Z has plenty of you know, passable stuff and it appeals to a crowd and its relatively new so its been up voted by all of its fans and first viewers, but when you get down to it there isn't any real depth in any of the characters like what Bitey has. And maybe Bitey is, on the surface, a character used to express moral lessons about respect and whatnot, but there's more to that character that we haven't seen yet and that's because we are talking about relatively short animations. Yes, they are short. 15 minutes is not a lot of time for an animation that goes into that kind of detail. I think you'll all be pleasantly surprised and the depth of story when whatever movie he makes finally comes out.

But honestly, this is like trying to explain that Final Fantasy is an ok epic in comparison to Lord of the Rings when the person you are talking to is fifteen and just finished FFVII.

[Digital-Terror]

At 10/16/09 12:29 PM, gumOnShoe wrote: a bunch of stuff

You argue a good point, but with what little we can already piece together about Bitey isn't much. He's a pretty generic character, but you're right about most else.

Although, you have to agree that saying SMBZ is absolute shit is plainly ignorant and stupid.

[gumOnShoe]

At 10/16/09 12:32 PM, Digital-Terror wrote: Although, you have to agree that saying SMBZ is absolute shit is plainly ignorant and stupid.

It isn't absolute shit, but its not a work of art either. My own opinion is that it belongs lower on the list, but I've been around long enough to know that'll happen once consensus exists and the votes start leveling out. Its the consensus that matters, and as liljim said a long time ago: its because the users voted that way.

[Chdonga]

They were actually both terrible, but all of the tools keep 5ing them making them seem like a masterpiece.

[Digital-Terror]

At 10/16/09 12:39 PM, gumOnShoe wrote: My own opinion is that it belongs lower on the list, but I've been around long enough to know that'll happen once consensus exists and the votes start leveling out. Its the consensus that matters, and as liljim said a long time ago: its because the users voted that way.

Yes, of course.

It especially bothered me when all of Egoraptor's flashes went right to the top 5... That was really annoying.

[Lorkas]

At 10/16/09 10:07 AM, Racoonmario wrote: When we talk about the top 50 we are actually talking about a complicated equation.

f(x)=x^2?

lol

[Goldfire64]

At 10/16/09 12:44 PM, Digital-Terror wrote:

At 10/16/09 12:39 PM, gumOnShoe wrote: My own opinion is that it belongs lower on the list, but I've been around long enough to know that'll happen once consensus exists and the votes start leveling out. Its the consensus that matters, and as liljim said a long time ago: its because the users voted that way.

Yes, of course.

It especially bothered me when all of Egoraptor's flashes went right to the top 5... That was really annoying.

i did like metal gear awesome but seeing awesome cracksdown go straight to the top kinda pissed me off, it wasn't that good, but you got to let the hype exist and then wear off.

[Ass-Crumb]

SMBZ is on the front page.

And trust me, that would make a world of difference to the reception of any flash.

Also SMBZ has fanboys, which is annoying, but eventually it'll even out over time because a bunch of 'lol its shit sprite' people will vote 0 on it until its atleast #2.

[ZOMGALIENS]

I haven't seen either of them. And don't plan to either.

[robin1232]

At 10/16/09 03:43 PM, ZOMGALIENS wrote: I haven't seen either of them. And don't plan to either.

you must see waterlollies, Adam Philips is an animation GOD!

[hdxmike]

Yes i have indeedsigned up only over a month ago but ive been on newgrounds since 03 and i must say the voting system is flawed and a bunch of immature newbs just seem to either vote 0 or 5 without ever really assesing the quality AND appeal of the flash they have just viewed.

Not to mention the dicks that just vote for EXP

I personally love brackenwood , and for those of you who dont know , A. Philps spent a while with disney so his flash is naturallyy better

But if youve watched ALL the brackenwood episodes and read everything Philips writes you can notice that theres a lot more to Bitey , and brackenwood
But 10 min flashes cant quite display such deepness which is why philips wants to make it a feauture film

SMBZ is not epicnor deep its parading as something epic when in fact its quite light

Brackenwood is ageless i could show it to my granchildren and they would be in awe.

Comparing the two is like comparing a fridge to a stick of butter ,the butter is more yellow and spreads on toast better but the fridge keeps drinks cooler and is better to drop on someone you dont like

THEY ARENT COMPARABLE.

Like i said , the voting system is flawed
I think only experienced users votes count

Also Its strange no one has mentioned story of khale 2