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Lets get one thing said here straight away. I don't endorse either rape or murder, but it seems to me that the media and the general public is fine with images of violence, and murderers tend to get less hate than rapists.

Its rather confusing, seeing as one of these ends a life, while another you can recover from. Does anyone here actually have any mature thoughts on this?

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Scarred for life of end of life?

They both weigh the same.

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At 10/13/09 05:13 PM, Eddyking wrote: Scarred for life of end of life?

They both weigh the same.

you can move on after being waped.

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how bout rape and then murder? now that's just perfect.

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I would have to guess that so many people die or get killed by people and other things that in order to get views a network has to search deeper into the world to find something more screwed up then the same old same old.

So what better then rape.

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Because rape leaves the person with traumatizing mental scarring that will be with them for the rest of their life. It isn't so simple as to just "get over" rape. It's extremely destructive to you as an individual and rape victims have to live their entire lives with the tormenting memories of their rape. Social and trust problems can arise from it, along with other psychological disorders.

For a lot of people, if they were to choose between dying and being haunted by pain for their entire lives, they would choose death. And, a lot of times, they do choose death. It's pretty common for rape victims to commit suicide.

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At 10/13/09 05:15 PM, xHaLLuCiN8x wrote: how bout rape and then murder? now that's just perfect.

I like it the other away around...

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Rape can be avoided easily.

Just simply enjoy it, go along with it. Then tell al your friends.

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At 10/13/09 05:25 PM, DumbassDude wrote: Just simply enjoy it, go along with it. Then tell al your friends.

If a rapist rapes because they enjoy the feelings of power and all that shit, will they be turned off if you act slutty?

I mean they can't rape you if you're already raping them.

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At 10/13/09 05:27 PM, Sh0T-D0wN wrote:
At 10/13/09 05:25 PM, DumbassDude wrote: Just simply enjoy it, go along with it. Then tell al your friends.
If a rapist rapes because they enjoy the feelings of power and all that shit, will they be turned off if you act slutty?

I mean they can't rape you if you're already raping them.

That's actually the motto many girls should take :P

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At least half of all rapes end in murder though....

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At 10/13/09 05:12 PM, snapper5 wrote:
+1 attempt at mature discussion :P

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At 10/13/09 05:24 PM, lolomfgisuck wrote:
At 10/13/09 05:15 PM, xHaLLuCiN8x wrote: how bout rape and then murder? now that's just perfect.
I like it the other away around...

It's not rape if she's dead!

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Why just rape if you could murder them then rape.


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I think it's because at one time or another, we all have violent urges. When people in front of you in a queue are taking forever to enter their PIN, for example. I mean, obviously even if we could beat the shit out of them we probably wouldn't, but those urges are there nonetheless, which may help to explain why people are more empathetic towards violence and even murder (if it's a crime of passion for example).

However, few people have the urge to rape. Yeah, we all have lust and stuff but there's a big difference between wanting to fuck someone and wanting to use force against them in that way. I think it's because humans understandably can't really feel empathy for rapists, not that they deserve any empathy anyway.

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The thing is a murder consits of the victim being killed but most rape victims have to live with it the rest of there life. In murder the victim is dead and only family and friends really suffer. Rape family friends and victims suffer. So its not that rape is worse then murder, or that murder is worse then rape. What it comes down to is that rape is relived in victims murder is not.


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At 10/13/09 07:05 PM, Whensley wrote:
At 10/13/09 05:12 PM, snapper5 wrote:
+1 attempt at mature discussion :P
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Why are pedophiles worse than murderers?


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That's because rape leaves the person scarred for a long time, along with the family of the person who was raped. I mean it's still bad for people to get killed, but at least the person doesn't have to life with it since they're dead, and the family can know the murdered person passed on. It's sad.

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At 10/13/09 07:22 PM, Acid wrote: Why are pedophiles worse than murderers?

I think that one is more because children are less able to defend themselves, and are more innocent or something stupid like that. I think that a life is a life, no matter how long its been alive.

Or if its not human, then i don't give a shit.
At 10/13/09 07:05 PM, Whensley wrote:
At 10/13/09 05:12 PM, snapper5 wrote:
+1 attempt at mature discussion :P
-1 for failing.

Dude, have you even seen the posts this is getting? Some people are actually interested, which is an achievement in itself.

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They are both equivalent acts of destructive abuse. One typically allows the preservation of life, but the ambivalence lies in the fact that the suffering lasts long after the conclusion of the violent perpetration. A rape victim's psyche is deeply wounded, the permanence of that scarring depends entirely on how thoroughly dominated the victim was during the rape. Some can recover. There is a feeling of empowerment one can attain from having survived rape and prospered after recovery. A rape victim may ultimately not only escape their victimization, but gain new power over their life.

But a murder has much more permanence. There is no recovery from murder, though there is often far more understanding for the mindset of a murderer. People can comprehend an unplanned violent murder as an act of rage. The victim's suffering isn't visible to the public following a murder.

As with most things, however, the devil is in the details. ANY rape is not equivalent to ANY murder, you've have to give a specific instance of rape to compare to a specific instance of murder. I mean, I think most people would agree that someone with a flesh hook suspension fetish, into whipping and beating victims during the rape has committed far greater an atrocity than someone who drove by and shot a rival gang member. But by the same token, I believe most people would agree that it's a far greater atrocity for someone to pull the entrails from a teenager and leave them to bleed out when compared to a case of statutory where the parents are pressing charges on a 23 year old who was lied to by a then-17 year old.

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I get what you mean, and that is the exact reason I didn't give specific details, it narrows down so much on discussion, which isn't something I want to do. The opening was short and left many things to the imagination for a reason.

Also, i highly doubt anyone on newgrounds is offend-able by this point

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At 10/13/09 05:15 PM, xHaLLuCiN8x wrote: how bout rape and then murder? now that's just perfect.

How about you murder them, then rape their dead body.


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At 10/13/09 05:20 PM, InsertFunnyUserName wrote:

And, a lot of times, they do choose death. It's pretty common for rape victims to commit suicide.

Thirteen percent of rape victims attempt suicide.

Ehh not common really.

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If I ruled the justice system, You would not want to do either. If you were a rapist I would castrate you and chop off your thumbs and index fingers. Depending on how many people you murdered and why you did it, It would be worse, but pretend you killed a man for no real reason. I would split your knees, then hang you by your thumbs while I beat you with steel pipes, after which I would saw your wang off, or use a pear if your a female, and finally I would tie you upside down and saw you in half. If only that could happen......

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