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Maverick-Alex

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At 10/12/09 08:30 PM, dmansland wrote:
At 10/12/09 08:25 PM, Maverick-Alex wrote:
At 10/12/09 07:18 PM, dmansland wrote: All games are easy if you know what you are doing, you know.
Obviously never touched online, ever.
I have. It's just very annoying at times.

Because it is on the Wii

Or bullet hells
Yes.

Did you passed the first stage?

Or Beat em ups
Double Dragon, Street of Rage, God of War, Super Smash Bros. Brawl Subspace Emmisary, those qualify?

Did you finished the games?

Or strategy games
PC shit so I won't bother.

Yeah, you "won't bother"...


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At 10/12/09 08:38 PM, Maverick-Alex wrote:
At 10/12/09 08:30 PM, dmansland wrote:
At 10/12/09 08:25 PM, Maverick-Alex wrote:
At 10/12/09 07:18 PM, dmansland wrote: All games are easy if you know what you are doing, you know.
Obviously never touched online, ever.
I have. It's just very annoying at times.
Because it is on the Wii

PS3 actually...

Or bullet hells
Yes.
Did you passed the first stage?

I don't recall.

Or Beat em ups
Double Dragon, Street of Rage, God of War, Super Smash Bros. Brawl Subspace Emmisary, those qualify?
Did you finished the games?

All of them.

Or strategy games
PC shit so I won't bother.
Yeah, you "won't bother"...

Nope, my PC is shit... well, it's a laptop and I don't own a desktop and I don't plan on buying a super computer any time soon. Besides, they don't look like my kind of games.

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What I find funny is that these "hardcore" gamers actually tend to know the LEAST about gaming as a whole.

Real gamers should have played, or at least know about, the classic/indie/obscure games, which very few HC Gamers can say. Real gamers will try any type of game, and see gaming as an art more than just a way to blow stuff up virtually.

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Also if you want a hard game just play "I wanna be the guy"

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Frankly, I doubt there's a person in the whole able to enjoy all genres of gaming, at least one game of each.

You don't deserve to be called that, someone else has to.


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Sorry; what I should have said is recognize a good game in any genre.

Although really you can enjoy anything if you want to enough.

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fanboys are ruining gaming.

There is no such thing as someone who doesn't like the PS3, there is only poor people who can't afford one. PS3 owners pity you and hope you can one day get out of poverty.


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Hardcore gamers are ruining games by expecting to much. I consider myself a gamer, because, some games im more of a hardcore player, Metal Slug/Gears of War/Halo. Then I go play Harvest Moon and Animal Crossing for 3 months. Then play Katamari and other casual games. The problem with Hardcore gamers is they have some weird problem with causal games. I love play online games and kicking ass but sometimes I just don't want to deal with others and I want to play something that won't piss me off. Then Hardcore gamers Hype up a game then suddenly decide it sucks. Like most Hardcore SSB players, because there still crying on how awesome Melee is. 1 on 1, no items, Final destination ITZ DA RULEZ!


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At 10/12/09 11:01 AM, KeithHybrid wrote: lots of stuff.

Even more stuff below.

Back when I was a wee lad I loved nintendo. SSB, mario, DK all of that shit I was all into it. Then I got a ps2 and grew up a bit. I don't despise Nintendo nowadays because of all of that shit you mentioned ( I agree with it somewhat), but I do rage on them pumping out sequels of games that are over 15 years old. Shit gets old, what aggravates me more is people getting excited/surprised by one of those sequels. I know both the other two companies are guilty of it too but they can say they've been trying to make new shit at least. Leads me into why I turn E3 off when Nintendo has there conference. Its too god damn predictable, I've asked people in the past two years what happened at the conference and its always been the same and people still act surprised. Let me know when Super Mario Universe Four comes out so I can point to it. Based on how you described the elitists I don't want them to have their way either.

Personally, I see a personal problem on my part for not being able to let go of it. I won't call myself a hardcore gamer even though I classify as one, but I consider my reason against Nintendo to be legit. Also, shouldn't the thread be ruining Nintendo if thats your OS?


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They're hardly ruining games, I know I'm still enjoying the games I play with or without their criticism. Hardcore gamers are mostly IRL losers in general (though not all) so it balances out; let them ruin their own world.

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But we have to deal with them being dicks in real life.

Also it makes us look bad.

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Hmm... when I think "hardcore gamer" I think someone who plays games competitively. Play them in a competitive style as in, using rules that actual proffessionals of that game would use. So by that logic, I would consider a competitive smash player "hardcore".

When I think casual I think basically anyone who doesn't do so. But I think even more of people who don't really play games much. As in, the wii fitness mom or something along those lines.

The group of people referred to in this thread just seem to be "retards who think they're cool for bashing certain games/consoles". This person can play halo 3 12 hours a day and completely be terrible at it. But in the end he says to himself "I'm hardcore cuz i play halo and other FPS games and you play nintendo which makes you a casual fag".

And at the OP: You shouldn't let these people get to you or influence what games you choose to play.

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At 10/12/09 08:41 PM, dmansland wrote:
At 10/12/09 08:38 PM, Maverick-Alex wrote:
At 10/12/09 08:30 PM, dmansland wrote:
At 10/12/09 08:25 PM, Maverick-Alex wrote:
At 10/12/09 07:18 PM, dmansland wrote: All games are easy if you know what you are doing, you know.
Obviously never touched online, ever.
I have. It's just very annoying at times.
Because it is on the Wii
PS3 actually...

Then how would you say that it's "annoying"?

Or strategy games
PC shit so I won't bother.
Yeah, you "won't bother"...
Nope, my PC is shit... well, it's a laptop and I don't own a desktop and I don't plan on buying a super computer any time soon. Besides, they don't look like my kind of games.

Right... by strategy, Maverick Alex, I hope you're referring to rts, tps, etc.?

There are tons and tons of strategy games for consoles. Who said they were for PCs? And at that statement: you don't need a "good" computer to play starcraft or many many other games.

Try playing fire emblem or advanced wars. I find them both challenging and fun. On DS or GBA. Or you could always try pc emulators?

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My friend bought a Halo account called "xMLG Asphyxiate"

Hardcore?


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At 10/13/09 09:19 AM, Fezz wrote: My friend bought a Halo account called "xMLG Asphyxiate"

Hardcore?

No, just stupid.

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At 10/12/09 11:01 AM, KeithHybrid wrote:

:All technology would be devoted simply to making graphics prettier while focusing only marginally on the gameplay.

Those would be ghettofags.
No serious gamer really cares that much about graphics.

Only stupid assholes that buy a PS3 just for MGS4 and then can't even play it.

Unfortunately, these people happen to be 97,3% of the actual console users >:C


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At 10/12/09 08:30 PM, dmansland wrote:
At 10/12/09 08:25 PM, Maverick-Alex wrote:
At 10/12/09 07:18 PM, dmansland wrote: All games are easy if you know what you are doing, you know.
Obviously never touched online, ever.
I have. It's just very annoying at times.

Therefore you don't know what your doing in sed' games?


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I wonder if the reason fore the Wii's hatred is due to it's success. It's given rise to a whole generation of shovelware from publishers looking to make a quick buck, and hoping that if they chuck ten shitloads at a wall, two will stick.

Maybe that kind of development practise is insulting.

...and with that post, people of Britain were so surprised that "tea was spilled, crumpets were dropped and monocles everywhere popped out in shock."

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At 10/12/09 09:41 PM, ThePhantomGamer wrote: fanboys are ruining gaming.

It's true. I never really say "OMGITSTHEBESTEVER" about a game. I just say If i like it or not and if it's worth the cashed i paid for it.


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Yep, that's why we ignore them. Personally, I like to beat them at their own game, if I have it. For example Tekken 6. It's coming out and there's bound to be a lot of those around. I will simply kick their sore asses and send them to the defeated list.


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First, to contribute to this thread a bit.

I am a hardcore gamer because I love playing video games and are basically a big part of my life right now. They aren't top priority but they are important to me. Now...

At 10/13/09 09:19 AM, kRaZyAzN wrote: Then how would you say that it's "annoying"?

Cheap deaths, laggers, abussers, and basically little kids. Play my little brother, and you'll understand.

Right... by strategy, Maverick Alex, I hope you're referring to rts, tps, etc.?

There are tons and tons of strategy games for consoles. Who said they were for PCs? And at that statement: you don't need a "good" computer to play starcraft or many many other games.

Try playing fire emblem or advanced wars. I find them both challenging and fun. On DS or GBA. Or you could always try pc emulators?

Well I was actually thinking he was referring to RTS which don't interest me. By RPGs, the only kinds of RPGs that I find fun are the Mario ones, since the combat isn't as boring. Any other RPG I play, I get bored after about 30 minutes. I haven't had a chance to try out Fire Emblem or Advance Wars though, but I plan to.

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Not really. Wii gamers are ruining games, or at the very least, ruining Nintendo.

Oh, inc(posts);

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At 10/13/09 05:06 PM, ShmenonPie wrote: Not really. Wii gamers are ruining games, or at the very least, ruining Nintendo.

People who complain about other consoles ruining games but not explaining why might be what's really ruining games.

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At 10/12/09 01:22 PM, leoslayer wrote:

u cant say that this will ruin gaming for you. because the Wii is selling LOADS more than anyone else.\
Explain this to me man because i just don't see this being true in anyway possible.


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At 10/13/09 11:11 PM, Edian258 wrote:
At 10/12/09 01:22 PM, leoslayer wrote:
u cant say that this will ruin gaming for you. because the Wii is selling LOADS more than anyone else.\
Explain this to me man because i just don't see this being true in anyway possible.

god im an idiot i cant even post correctly i ment to say explain were the HELL YOU GOT THIS INFORMATION, THE WII SUCKS BALLS AND IS THE MOST BORING CONSOLE EVER. WHY WELL OTHER THEN IT PRACTICLY BEING A KNOCK OFF OF ALL THE OTHER NINTENDO GAMES.


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IT HAS BAD GRAPHICS BAD MOTION READING AND THE GAMES ARE JUST PLAIN DUMB.


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Most of the time when I think of "Hardcore" gamers they are the frat boys who only play Halo and COD and gears of war (Yes I write Gears of war in full. Every time I see GOW I think of God Of War) online and have about 5 games in their library, and probabbly play the games less then someone who has a Wii or who just enjoys a more diverse game experiance. I have a PS3 and several different games not just FPS, or racing, or just one style of game.

I knew someone at work who would be considered my view of "Hardcore" gamer. He had a 360 and only play COD4 online. I'd ask him things about single player mode and he said he never played it single player. I like playing online as well but I'm not going to neglect half my game I just paid $60 for.

Anyway don't worry about the Hardcore gamers We still have a lot of people that want to play different games. And if gaming does get stale then maybe it will just crash again for a few years and come back strong again like it did back in 1985.


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Halo is a shit gaem lol coz its popular but i think its overrated cuz im different also the wii is fail and has produced nothing good cod4 owns thank you and goodnight lol ^_^


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At 10/13/09 03:38 PM, cool154 wrote:
At 10/12/09 09:41 PM, ThePhantomGamer wrote: fanboys are ruining gaming.
It's true. I never really say "OMGITSTHEBESTEVER" about a game. I just say If i like it or not and if it's worth the cashed i paid for it.

Well, I do say that about a lot of the games I play, but at least I dare to play something else, and see if it's just as good (and since I've got a very short attention span, that next game will be just as awesome). Like right now, Lufia 2 is the best game ever!

But I do know what the OP's talking about. Thanks to people being overly zealous towards certain genres, the big studios keep cranking out games that are barely any different from other games. To be honest, I can barely tell a difference between CoD and GoW, to me, they're just generic WWII FPS's. And I don't understand why they keep making 'new' games like that. Of course, those transgressions pale in comparison to sports games. It seems that most of the big name games try to appeal to the hardcore gamers referenced above, since that's where the most money is, and little effort is put into 'new ideas', resulting in an explosion of shovelware that, honestly, probably has more potential to be great games than the 'high-end' games.

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Hmm, I play games quite a bit, but I actually quite like playing the games that are more, "casual" or whatever you want to call it. I still like alot of the ultra fast paced first person shooters, (Rainbow Six Las Vegas 1, terrorist hunt mode. It dosen't get much harder than that :p) but I still like to cool of with something that dosen't make the air turn blue with my swearing.

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