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HAY!
Quit derailing the thread.

At 10/18/09 05:52 PM, Endless-Psychoticism wrote: HAY!
Quit derailing the thread.

He started it!

Anyway, as far as the story goes, is it going to be light-hearted or more intense or just used as a loose explanation for the circumstances?

At 10/18/09 06:01 PM, Knocturne wrote:

At 10/18/09 05:52 PM, Endless-Psychoticism wrote: HAY!
Quit derailing the thread.

He started it!

Anyway, as far as the story goes, is it going to be light-hearted or more intense or just used as a loose explanation for the circumstances?

Hmmmm, maybe if BMK can come up with something for once...

jk

Anyhoo, I'd say that the story may be used to explain the circumstances. Well, if we're just showcasing art in a game, at least create a commonplace for it.

I know:

Strangely some people at the art forum all got invitations (an were the only ones) to go to a top research facility to get a tour there. The facility held a special event that randomly chose (###) people to allow to see the tests in action. At the research facility a scientist tests out his new machine in front of the guests but under a strange event the machine malfunctions and ruptures the fabric of reality releasing all the thoughts that the art forum people were thinking of for the game. Now everyone has to team together to save the world from being destroyed by these creations.

At 10/18/09 07:48 PM, angryglacier wrote: art forum game

Hahaha, then we could actually have a legit big-jonny-13 ninja level

Maybe I'll stop pushing myself as a character

How about letting the guy who got an A in creative writing have a go at the story, hm?

In the distant future, creativity was in a decline. The fearful National Endowment for the Arts and Humanities set up a vault to contain any of the rapidly deteriorating creativity.

Hundreds of years later, after the creativity decline was proved to have only been a record breaking burst in the amount of terrible fan fiction and original energy was up to normal, the vault had been forgotten.

However, creativity multiplies exponentially n the presence of itself.

The creativity vault explodes and sends creative energy all over the planet. Many wondrous and confusing things simply appeared out of nowhere, and things living and inanimate began to mutate into things that had once only appeared in the deepest vestiges of the creative mind. Things that could not possibly exist, that defied every law of nature and broke several theories.

Most of these things began to rampage about, multiplying creative energy and making everything much more odd. And worse.

With all civilization in chaos, some have used their creative energies to create good things that have the chance to bring the boredom of peace back to the world.

Meh.

At 10/18/09 08:02 PM, big-jonny-13 wrote: Hahaha, then we could actually have a legit big-jonny-13 ninja level

Maybe I'll stop pushing myself as a character

At this point, perhaps you can make a pretty legit boss character. Complete with minions and a level.
Oh, and while the topic of pushing people as a character is floating about, I want to be a boss in this. Minions, maybe, but I dunno.

As for boss type, perhaps a two-stager. Stage 1: A murderous person. Stage 2: A hideous, enraged monster.

At 10/18/09 08:17 PM, Kurofelis wrote: How about letting the guy who got an A in creative writing have a go at the story, hm?

No

How about, in the distant future the internet becomes a tangible place, one which people opt to travel. There is a place that is traversed by many, The New Grounds. The Hegemon of The New Grounds, whom was sealed off by The Defenders has been unleashed by a foolish man, BMK.
Now, The Hegemon traps a select few henchmen to begin his million year reign or darkness to a head.

BMK has no choice but to go to the lands created by The Hegemon and his henchmen and stop him before everyone in The New Grounds are trapped and The New Grounds are lost forever.

I still think we should have this some form of art forum themed,
perhaps a mix of a dream and the art forum.

Story line.
A NG user 1337ArtistGamer wants to become the best artist on NG. but there are a lot of people ahead of him.
One night as he sleeps he dreams of conquering the art forum.
The dream begins with him going threw different threads (levels) mastering the lingo, gunning down many of the non-artist users who simply place normal comments (our enemies) striving to reach the original poster (boss) of the thread. All the time he is gaining experience and gold which can be spent on skills (design, anatomy etc. ) and art supplies (better pencils, adobe software Wacom tablets etc.) later on.
The user works his way up the top of the Art Forum. until becoming the best artist on NG

This gives all a chance to have our own levels since we all have out own threads, and we all get to be in the game since we who have threads get to be in the game. We can all contribute to the mass pools of ordinary user comments to use as enemies, and we can all contribute to the upgrade and level up icons.
The work is basically already divided this way as well.

I'd like a platformer. Mainly because there are so many damn scrolling shooters - and I really enjoy a good platformer!

At 10/19/09 02:54 AM, MiddleFingerRings wrote: I'd like a platformer. Mainly because there are so many damn scrolling shooters - and I really enjoy a good platformer!

And I've just noticed this is no longer a voting thread. I'm sure you'll rethink the whole game because of me though.

At 10/19/09 02:59 AM, MiddleFingerRings wrote:

At 10/19/09 02:54 AM, MiddleFingerRings wrote: I'd like a platformer. Mainly because there are so many damn scrolling shooters - and I really enjoy a good platformer!

And I've just noticed this is no longer a voting thread. I'm sure you'll rethink the whole game because of me though.

perhaps out next game will be a bad ass platformer/brawler.
:P
but trust me with all of us working on a shooter, I'm sure it'll be a good cut above some of the others

How about none of this 'TEH INTERNETS' bullshit and just make it about some little kid dreaming? That's it. No epic storylines, just a litte kid's fantasy.

At 10/19/09 09:20 AM, idiot-monarch wrote: How about none of this 'TEH INTERNETS' bullshit and just make it about some little kid dreaming? That's it. No epic storylines, just a litte kid's fantasy.

The simplest ideas are generally the best. Long and intricate storylines in shooting games seems sort of pointless to me.

At 10/19/09 09:20 AM, idiot-monarch wrote: How about none of this 'TEH INTERNETS' bullshit and just make it about some little kid dreaming? That's it. No epic storylines, just a litte kid's fantasy.

Agreed.

Anyway, I'm going to create a discussion thread for this shortly, so this thread will be locked.

I posted a request for an actionscripter in the Flash Forum. So if any of you do some AS or know anyone who does, check that out.

At 10/19/09 09:20 AM, idiot-monarch wrote: How about none of this 'TEH INTERNETS' bullshit and just make it about some little kid dreaming? That's it. No epic storylines, just a litte kid's fantasy.

That's not a storyline, that's a premise except it doesn't even explain anything.

A kid dreams in different art styles, and goes shooting through the dreams why?

Show me a game without a story and I'll show you a game noone remembers/likes.

At 10/19/09 01:45 PM, Knocturne wrote:
Show me a game without a story and I'll show you a game noone remembers/likes.

...
-_-

Super Mario? That one's pretty darned hollow on the story side.
Team Fortress 2
The two top NG Flashes at the moment, Maimi Shark and Toss The Turtle
Geometry Wars
Pacman

It's gameplay and innovation that makes a game.

TBH, we've had enough talk about the story. We've established that it will be dream-based, so could we start thinking of neat new gameplay that we could include in our game?

At 10/19/09 01:45 PM, Knocturne wrote: Show me a game without a story and I'll show you a game noone remembers/likes.

A game with out a story, Chess
now for a game no one likes.... Barbey themed games

Your turn Knocturne

At 10/19/09 01:52 PM, Re2deemer wrote:
Super Mario? That one's pretty darned hollow on the story side.

Heroes need to save the princess. In most variations of the series.

Pacman

Rescue Ms. Pacman

It's gameplay and innovation that makes a game.

No, it's a combination of multiple aspects, the story doesn't have to overwhelm the game on any given level, but if you are usuing it merely for explanation, it should actually explain, in my opinion.

And it was fairly obvious I was talking about games with a premise.

As far as gameplay that would make the game interesting what would make this game special? Would the main character's design change per dream?
Would there be level specific content (armour, powers, weapons etc.)?
How does he transition from each world? Wakes up and goes back to sleep?
Will there be any reference to the stages of sleep?
What kind of weapons will be involved and will there be a weapon enhancing/fusion system?

These are my ideas, as I drum through Knocturne's questions/bullet points.

At 10/19/09 02:01 PM, Knocturne wrote: As far as gameplay that would make the game interesting what would make this game special?

That's a pretty big bullet point, let's save that.

Would the main character's design change per dream?

I say yes. Use a similar template, but we can have lots of different artist's versions of the same character.

Would there be level specific content (armour, powers, weapons etc.)?

Only one or two, which would be really cool. Otherwise the rest should be ones used throughout the game, so that the players are familiar with them.

How does he transition from each world? Wakes up and goes back to sleep?

No waking up. He's in a coma?
You know you sometimes have dreams where things radically change without you noticing? Go with that, but with maps.
Lets say the clothes, map and objects gradually slip off the previous world, whilst the the new world object simultaneously slip on.

Will there be any reference to the stages of sleep?

Sleep walking? Waking up and going for a piss? I dunno.

What kind of weapons will be involved and will there be a weapon enhancing/fusion system?

Kind of bog standard ones, I guess. I prefer shooting games where you choose where the end-game playable character is fat+powerful+sluggish or skinny+fast+shit

As far as gameplay that would make the game interesting what would make this game special?

I want to put some quick-thinking puzzles in there, and try to stop people from bullet spraying. Would be cool if there was bombs to kill "ground" enemies that you can't kill head on.

Yes.

is this a flying shooter or a running shooter cause the way the conversations going i cant tell, could be a bit of both i guess

Well, the average person has around 3-6 dreams a night, so it'd be neat if the whole game was almost a continuous map that transitioned flawlessly as you progressed. Or like you said, just ripped off and pulled him into the next one.

I'm guessing the level concepts would be decided by the designer? We should probably make a list of types of levels or level concepts so there aren't 9 wet dream stages and one nightmare.

There's micro sleep, REM sleep, stages 1,2,3 and 4, night terrors and nightmares you know? That's what I meant by stages of sleep.

If we follow the typical standards for weapons, I just hope they look pretty.

Will the monsters be all standard and just redrawn by the level designer as well or will each level have it's own monsters?

Last of my barrage of questions: will there be any special/bonus stages? Anything from racking up points to just a stage designed completely differntly to provide payers with a bit of fresh air, like a snowboarding level or something.

Since voting ended awhile ago, please feel free to continue the discussion in the discussion thread.

Thanks to everyone who is participating in this project!