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At 10/15/09 08:28 AM, Fleshlight wrote:
As long as that shooter isn't mindlessly boring/repetitive, it could work.

Hell no, it won't be boring. It'll HAVE to be enemy spam, arcade hard, and have gigantic, computer-slowing bosses shooting sixty humongous lasers out of their robotic rectums.

Ideally.

At 10/15/09 05:42 PM, Kurofelis wrote: Hell no, it won't be boring. It'll HAVE to be enemy spam, arcade hard, and have gigantic, computer-slowing bosses shooting sixty humongous lasers out of their robotic rectums.

thats one type of shooter, then theres stuff like thing thing or madness accelerant, or do they count as brawlers, theyre the type of shooters i prefer, but retro is good i guess, i guess this is going to be the latter, retro

We should totally have an "art forum shooter" game.
Main player can be BMK. We can have a few people team together to design the level, ships and bosses.
Explanation? Let's say J-qb, SirNightOwl and I partner together. We would work together on a level design, enemies and bosses, or we could split them up. We could even have the bosses be ourselves!

At 10/15/09 06:28 PM, big-jonny-13 wrote: We should totally have an "art forum shooter" game.
Main player can be BMK. We can have a few people team together to design the level, ships and bosses.
Explanation? Let's say J-qb, SirNightOwl and I partner together. We would work together on a level design, enemies and bosses, or we could split them up. We could even have the bosses be ourselves!

If you wanted send me a level or two to design and a few enemies. I don't think I could design a good boss, but some weak ass minions, sure as hell!

Also I was thinking, if we should set this up for revenue sharing, I think we should give all the revenue to one of the charity accounts we have on the site.

this could actually look good on my port folio.

At 10/15/09 06:36 PM, Kinsei01 wrote:

Also I was thinking, if we should set this up for revenue sharing, I think we should give all the revenue to one of the charity accounts we have on the site.

this could actually look good on my port folio.

Quite the humanitarian ;)

How do we know if the scrolling shooter will be more zoomed out or in on the characters, have obstacles like walls , be overview or side view, and will it have power ups etc.?

At 10/15/09 06:46 PM, de-cider wrote:
Quite the humanitarian ;)

well not quite, I actually figure it would be easier to donate the money rather than try and divide it up and have people fighting over it.

At 10/15/09 07:42 PM, Kinsei01 wrote:

At 10/15/09 06:46 PM, de-cider wrote:
Quite the humanitarian ;)

well not quite, I actually figure it would be easier to donate the money rather than try and divide it up and have people fighting over it.

We should get make a charity for the victims of morefungames and addictinggames.

At 10/15/09 06:28 PM, big-jonny-13 wrote: We should totally have an "art forum shooter" game.
Main player can be BMK. We can have a few people team together to design the level, ships and bosses.
Explanation? Let's say J-qb, SirNightOwl and I partner together. We would work together on a level design, enemies and bosses, or we could split them up. We could even have the bosses be ourselves!

Ok, so, from what you are saying, we can have a team for a level. But are we allowed to go solo, or is it teams only?
Regardless, I still feel that this is a good idea.

At 10/15/09 08:08 PM, Endless-Psychoticism wrote: Ok, so, from what you are saying, we can have a team for a level. But are we allowed to go solo, or is it teams only?
Regardless, I still feel that this is a good idea.

gotta good point,
I understand the fears of us not getting our parts done, but I recently have some really bad experience with a team mate and my wounds from that haven't really healed yet. so Alone I go, if you know what I mean

At 10/15/09 06:36 PM, Kinsei01 wrote:

Also I was thinking, if we should set this up for revenue sharing, I think we should give all the revenue to one of the charity accounts we have on the site.

this could actually look good on my port folio.

That's Kinsei for you, always for the greater good.

At 10/15/09 08:03 PM, angryglacier wrote: We should get make a charity for the victims of morefungames and addictinggames.

We should MAKE STUFF FOR THE GAME.

Let's all procastinate together.

At 10/16/09 12:15 PM, TurkeyOnAStick wrote:

At 10/15/09 08:03 PM, angryglacier wrote: We should get make a charity for the victims of morefungames and addictinggames.

We should MAKE STUFF FOR THE GAME.

Let's all procastinate together.

procrastination for the nation.

At 10/16/09 12:17 PM, InTheBlue wrote: procrastination for the nation.

Also, have something smart to say before you post, and stop spamming up the art forum.

At 10/16/09 12:27 PM, TurkeyOnAStick wrote:

At 10/16/09 12:17 PM, InTheBlue wrote: procrastination for the nation.

Also, have something smart to say before you post, and stop spamming up the art forum.

Since we are going for a scrolling shooter, then we need epic boss battles at least. So I suggest we start looking for epic MUSIC for boss battles, because with years of experience, I can tell that bossbattles with awesome music & style, even if they are not that hard / challenging are the ones you will be playing over & over & over again.

Because of that, we need some epic bosses as well ;)

At 10/15/09 06:28 PM, big-jonny-13 wrote: We should totally have an "art forum shooter" game.

Doesn't sound fun.

We can have a few people team together to design the level, ships and bosses.
Explanation? Let's say J-qb, SirNightOwl and I partner together. We would work together on a level design, enemies and bosses, or we could split them up.

That's a good idea.

Also to guys not liking the idea of scrolling shooters, who's to say that other simplistic things to give the game same originality can't be implemented?
For example, how about the player has to solve a time-trialed tile puzzle to unlock certain bonuses or take easier routes?
I was fancying having fragile numerated enemies that you have to kill in a certain order (like passcode) so that people don't spray and pray.
Although I know little actionscript, I can tell it's achievable.

Dunno what the theme's gonna be, but here's an unfinished clockwork anglerfish that I'll animate.

At 10/16/09 01:04 PM, Fatchaos wrote:
Since we are going for a scrolling shooter, then we need epic boss battles at least. So I suggest we start looking for epic MUSIC for boss battles, because with years of experience, I can tell that bossbattles with awesome music & style, even if they are not that hard / challenging are the ones you will be playing over & over & over again.

Because of that, we need some epic bosses as well ;)

Agreed, if you all can help brainstorm all the elements we're going to require before I come up with an official thread for this project that would be awesome.

Off the top of my head we're going to be needing:

Game engine
Theme/storyline
Main ship/character designs
Enemy designs
Boss designs
Level layouts:
-Backgrounds
-Foregrounds
-Enemy spawn patterns
-Forground elements (like moving or destructable level features etc)
Sounds:
-Music
-Sound effects
-Ambient sounds
Power-ups
Shots (laser beams, bullets, missles, spread patterns etc)
HUD
Title screen
Menu
Instructions screen

What else will we need?

Also, just for shits and giggles, THIS is an OLD, abandoned shooter that a friend and I worked on back in the day for ANOTHER friend. I know there were later versions with some bug fixes, but I can't seem to find them. Enjoy (lol).

At 10/16/09 01:52 PM, BlackmarketKraig wrote: Agreed, if you all can help brainstorm all the elements we're going to require before I come up with an official thread for this project that would be awesome.

Off the top of my head we're going to be needing:

Game engine
Theme/storyline
Main ship/character designs
Enemy designs
Boss designs
Level layouts:
-Backgrounds
-Foregrounds
-Enemy spawn patterns
-Forground elements (like moving or destructable level features etc)
Sounds:
-Music
-Sound effects
-Ambient sounds
Power-ups
Shots (laser beams, bullets, missles, spread patterns etc)
HUD
Title screen
Menu
Instructions screen

What else will we need?

Also, just for shits and giggles, THIS is an OLD, abandoned shooter that a friend and I worked on back in the day for ANOTHER friend. I know there were later versions with some bug fixes, but I can't seem to find them. Enjoy (lol).

Well before any of us get off on to the parts we want to do I Think that the theme/story is the first thing to take care of. At least so were all working on at least the same Idea

I like the idea of of a spaceship theme

I really like the Angler fish. It looks awesome.

What about a steampunk/industrialish type game? Real dirty and gritty. The detail whores will love it.

I think the shooter would be much more fun if it would not be to the side but rather to the top like:

Ether War, by Kajenx Type: Game Rating: Everyone

Dropping in my two cents on the theme.
First, we'll need something that would accommodate a wide variety of visual styles, from cartoonish to steampunkish. Second, some artists prefer to draw organic creatures, some like mechanical machines.
Thus, I figure a dream theme would be the best choice. Although it's somewhat lazy explanation, it makes the different styles feel more logical. Anybody heard about Psychonauts? In the game, you can enter people's minds and go around there. Maybe we could have a game where you enter different people's dreams. That way we could categorize enemies and roup them together rather than having the player face a flying fish and a helicopter at the same time.
Alternatively, crash landing on an alien planet might accommodate a wide variety of styles too, even if a bit worse than the dreams theme.

At 10/16/09 06:52 PM, angryglacier wrote: I think the shooter would be much more fun if it would not be to the side but rather to the top like:

Yeah, there are two main types of scrolling shooter games.
Side-scrolling shooter games.

Robot Dinosaurs, by I-smel Type: Game Rating: Everyone

And top-scrolling shooter games.

RaidenX, by Go0gley Type: Game Rating: Everyone

I think as far as artwise is concerned a sideways view would allow for better art. Not to say that top down isn't good, just that it limits things by ways of originality in my opinion.

At 10/16/09 06:52 PM, angryglacier wrote: I think the shooter would be much more fun if it would not be to the side but rather to the top like:
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/46 2253

I think it would be nice to feature a mix of BOTH top down and side view, like the Konami classic Life-Force (NES). Some levels would be played in top down others from the side.

At 10/16/09 06:57 PM, Re2deemer wrote: Dropping in my two cents on the theme.
First, we'll need something that would accommodate a wide variety of visual styles, from cartoonish to steampunkish. Second, some artists prefer to draw organic creatures, some like mechanical machines.
Thus, I figure a dream theme would be the best choice. Although it's somewhat lazy explanation, it makes the different styles feel more logical.

I like this idea a lot, even though I don't think most shooters, even really wacky ones (thinking Parodious here), require or provide much explination (here's your ship, now shoot everything you see).

I think that with the dream idea; each level could be done by a team of artists covering one theme and ALL the elements could reflect that from the main ship, the enemies and level elements to even the HUD. Each could reflect a different style. Anything is possible this way from a steampunk themed level to flying barn yard animals and, hell, why not a NG BBS themed level?

At 10/16/09 07:11 PM, BlackmarketKraig wrote: hell, why not a NG BBS themed level?

You have to shoot down spam threads and collect mods for power ups

Story idea:

This solar system is a true spacial wonder. The massive sun in the center holds 36 planets around it and each planet due to a strange gravitational pull from unknown forces forced apart the planets making almost barrier like areas preventing any inhabitants to venture or else they might be crushed some planets however instead of being forced apart are drawn in being next to each other having technologies mingle. One cluster however was having a ravaging war with highly advanced technology that sets in motion a chain of events that destroys the gravitational barriers separating the 36 planets and making them grow closer and closer. This has allowed contact between the different races and a balanced system of government starts to form but however another chain of events makes it so the entire solar system is at WAR.

it's a basic background story that I just came up with so many strange parts to it and I haven't developed it yet this is just off of the top of me head... But this story line makes it so any person that wants choose a theme like stemepunk or whatever can and then can be assigned to a planet cluster to perfect with the rest of them like minded people and have everyone working in groups to develop each planet clusters background.

At 10/16/09 09:24 PM, angryglacier wrote: Story idea:

Just needs some goofy.

Because, how are you going to try to have a serious story with various levels of bullshit trying to kill you? It's injustifiable unless it's totally doof.

I think the story is the easiest part, the story tends to work itself out after the art has been completed anyways.

So what Im curious about is how do are you going to divvy up the assignments?

should we have a template for backgrounds, bosses and minions, and just let people have at it?

Or will everyone need to come up with their own world?

also are unpublished works allowed? I got plenty of those.

At 10/17/09 09:33 AM, MindChamber wrote: should we have a template for backgrounds, bosses and minions, and just let people have at it?

I'd like it this way.

Also, as far as theme/story goes, I say we have to immediately establish the game as completely goofy and inconsistent, so people could do whatever they wanted.

I say someone just provide some templates and we get to work. We'll figure it all out later ;)

Internet Fighter?
Fly through various websites and take them out?

4chan would need to be a level then XD