i wanna learn a language

[dburford11]

I was wondering, what would the best language for someone who already knows PHP, to begin programming simple games? Would it be Java?

[blah569]

I really recommend using GOSU with Ruby or C++. It's very easy to use, and very easy to setup. If you have Rubygems, you can get it simply by:

gem install gosu

RubyGems is included by default if you check "Ruby Gems" after installing Ruby. Creating a window with Gosu is very easy, as well as expanding on the window.

require 'rubygems'
require 'gosu'

class GameWindow < Gosu::Window
     def initialize
          super(550, 400, false)
          self.caption = "Hello World With Gosu and Ruby!"
     end
end

gamew = GameWindow.new
gamew.show

Of course, that's very basic, but you can expand on the following sekelton with the mass of information from libgosu.org

[Leidolfr]

C++ seems more applicable, and makes more sense than gosu, I think.

Really the easiest languages are python, and BASIC but, both are archaic and have little to no actual use.

I use C++

[blah569]

At 10/6/09 03:03 AM, Leidolfr wrote: C++ seems more applicable, and makes more sense than gosu, I think.

Really the easiest languages are python, and BASIC but, both are archaic and have little to no actual use.

I use C++

You can use Gosu inside of C++, it's just a library for drawing to the output buffer, as well as handling input, sound, etc.

[Scyllinice]

You've obviously never really used a dynamic language like Python.

I prefer Ruby over Python personally, but both of those languages are in no way archaic or not useful.

Please actually use a language before you say something like that. You are totally wrong.

At 10/6/09 03:03 AM, Leidolfr wrote: C++ seems more applicable, and makes more sense than gosu, I think.

Really the easiest languages are python, and BASIC but, both are archaic and have little to no actual use.

I use C++

[Jon-86]

Actionscript 3

[RageOfOrder]

Brainfuck.

+++ +++ +++ +           initialize counter (cell #0) to 10
[                       use loop to set the next four cells to 70/100/30/10
    > +++ +++ +             add  7 to cell #1
    > +++ +++ +++ +         add 10 to cell #2 
    > +++                   add  3 to cell #3
    > +                     add  1 to cell #4
    <<< < -                 decrement counter (cell #0)
]                   
>++ .                   print 'H'
>+.                     print 'e'
+++ +++ +.              print 'l'
.                       print 'l'
+++ .                   print 'o'
>++ .                   print ' '
<<+ +++ +++ +++ +++ ++. print 'W'
>.                      print 'o'
+++ .                   print 'r'
--- --- .               print 'l'
--- --- --.             print 'd'
>+.                     print '!'
>.                      print '\n'

Or, if you remove all the comments,

++++++++++[>+++++++>++++++++++>+++>+<<<<-]>++.>+.+++++++..+++.>++.<<+++++++++++++++.>.+++.------.--------.>+.>.

[Wonderful]

At 10/6/09 03:03 AM, Leidolfr wrote: Really the easiest languages are python, and BASIC but, both are archaic and have little to no actual use.

Python is anything but "archaic," and is still in active use today.

[kiwi-kiwi]

At 10/6/09 03:03 AM, Leidolfr wrote:
Really the easiest languages are python, and BASIC but, both are archaic and have little to no actual use.

If you have nothing to do someday, get yourself some major linux distribution, install it in virtualbox or something and try to uninstall python, see what happens.

I already tried it, Ubuntu basically uninstalled the entire system when I did that.

[RevNation]

honestly, if you learn something like c/c++ it will help you in the future with understanding other languages, but its not easy. I would recommend python and things like pygame etc... if you want to get something decent without spending to much time.

[phoenixflames]

i would have to choose visual basic it is really, really easy. i u have to do is memorize a couple things and ur golden

[robin1232]

C++ if you want a career in the gaming industry

[amaterasu]

At 10/5/09 10:42 PM, dburford11 wrote: I was wondering, what would the best language for someone who already knows PHP, to begin programming simple games? Would it be Java?

For a first language, I would recommend picking up C# with the XNA framework. I've been using it for a little while now and I can see the merit of it for first time users. Plus C# is easier to learn than C++ for a first language IMO.

[amaterasu]

At 10/13/09 03:33 AM, robin1232 wrote: C++ if you want a career in the gaming industry

This is the truth though, so if you are serious aim to pick up C++. After getting comfortable with learning to write software with something like C# or Java, the move to C++ will be a breeze.

[robin1232]

At 10/13/09 08:43 AM, amaterasu wrote:

At 10/13/09 03:33 AM, robin1232 wrote: C++ if you want a career in the gaming industry

This is the truth though, so if you are serious aim to pick up C++. After getting comfortable with learning to write software with something like C# or Java, the move to C++ will be a breeze.

yeah, altough I could recommend spending time with even easier to learn languages like actionscript or something (object oriented languages prefered as they make the jump to C++ even less)

[thoughtpolice]

The ease of development leads me to say python or ruby, because they are simple and abstract.

There are bindings to libraries like libSDL from these languages, which I would recommend using (SDL has been used commercially,) and it will severely cut down the amount of time you need to spend on unimportant details (like setting up a window etc.)

C++ is probably worth knowing if you're die-hard set on writing games I guess, but it is a very complicated language compared to almost any other and takes much time to master. It has a much better type system than C too, which, in comparison, is very very welcome.

I would recommend if you go this C++ route to use something like SDL and boost, because they will save you a lot of time doing stuff you really don't need to/shouldn't re-implement (we use boost at work - some parts of it are godawful horrific, others are incredibly useful.)

Hope it helps.

[iSexy]

When I took programming in high school they started me off with C++ and C# then visual basic and visual C++.