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If anyone is having trouble thinking of a way to mix horror into a punk genre I'd recommend checking out some of David Cronenberg's films, especially ExistenZ, Videodrome, or The Fly. None of them are outright cyberpunk, but they're great examples of weaving horror into themes of technology expanding beyond what we're prepared for.

I'd love to actually write something for this month's contest, but I have an awful record of finishing what I start for these after I've promised to so I'll keep quiet for now.

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At 10/5/09 12:36 PM, gumOnShoe wrote:
At 10/5/09 12:34 PM, Peroxide wrote: I'm thinking of cyberpunk. Would something like The Terminator be too tenuous a link?
The issue with The Terminator was that, the first one anyway, was purely action and they lived in the modern world. A cyberpunk story would have taken place in the time era that The Terminator was actually from. Still, the characters fit a "punkish" theme.

Cyberpunk: TheMatrix, Surrogates, Bladerunner, Necromancer, etc

Ooh, don't forget "The Island". I love that film.

I'm 500 words into my Dieselpunk story, going to leave it at that for tonight.


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At 10/5/09 12:07 PM, JackPhantasm wrote: So would something like Watchmen qualify?

Not for any of the genres that GumonShoe already talked about. But basically, I want you to picture the world if something other than electricity became the most popular form of power for the world. Now picture it in a slightly unreal, fictional fashion the way you would for fantasy.

The most popular Steampunk story, is, more often than not in the way it's told, the story of Atlantis. Generally it's portrayed as having mastered all the facets of it's time- Steam power, and otherwise looking dated, yet advanced far ahead of any other city or place in it's time.

Let me put it this way:

Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind
Atlantis
The League of Extraordinary Gentleman
Steamboy
Wild Wild West
Bioshock

Popular Examples, all of which were pretty successful (other than Wild Wild West which sucked, but it still has all the facets of Steampunk so cut it a break).

Basically, it usually comes of as more story oriented, and in fiction and writing it usually tries to get you to immerse yourself in the world as well as the story, adding more depth.

All in all, it usually comes off as a dark fantasy (and will most likely do moreso in the horror genre), but at the same time it often has alot of intelligent ideas and concepts which can easily fit into mystery, horror, comedy (in specific, black comedy or satire usually) or other fantasy.


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wow, now I can't shake the mental image of Will Smith's Wild Wild West.

Thanks for the help though, I'll give it a go.


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Does the world in which my story is set have to be Earth or could it be a similar planet/universe but with some aspects changed?

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At 10/5/09 12:59 PM, VitaminP wrote: Does the world in which my story is set have to be Earth or could it be a similar planet/universe but with some aspects changed?

That is up to you. So long as it follows a punk genre you will be fine. Earthly origins is not a prerequisite.

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At 10/5/09 12:07 PM, JackPhantasm wrote: So would something like Watchmen qualify?

Well, if we're talking Alan Moore, I'd say that The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen would be a better example of punk, Steampunk in particular.

Also, I am anticipating at least 3 "dickpunk" submissions.


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Another great example is Brave New World by Aldous Huxley. Full of weirdness and sexual promiscuity. Makes you question the difference of a Utopia and Dystopia.

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At 10/5/09 02:04 PM, boloneyman wrote: Another great example is Brave New World by Aldous Huxley. Full of weirdness and sexual promiscuity. Makes you question the difference of a Utopia and Dystopia.

I agree with the Huxley nod, but the thing about Brave New World is that it also falls into the dystopian novel category, which shouldn't be confused as a punk genre. While Brave New World can be considered punk, Orwell's 1984, which would be considered dystopian like Brave New World, isn't really under the punk category (unless I'm forgetting something).


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So I have a question. Ive always loved the thought of air ships but I dont want it to be steam airships. I want old timey wooden ships with a balloon or maybe the properties of certain woods makes it float. So would that be able to fit into the punk anthologies?

also I will be writing something. Been some time huh?

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At 10/5/09 02:24 PM, Luxury-Yacht wrote:
I agree with the Huxley nod, but the thing about Brave New World is that it also falls into the dystopian novel category, which shouldn't be confused as a punk genre. While Brave New World can be considered punk, Orwell's 1984, which would be considered dystopian like Brave New World, isn't really under the punk category (unless I'm forgetting something).

What if you have the entire story told from the point of view of an outsider like John the Savage? Someone who refuses to conform and is horrified by the thought of doing so.

I was listening to the song '30 by Queen a few minutes ago, and I think I might have found some inspiration. If you haven't heard the song, think of the set up for Planet of the Apes, but reduce the passing of time to a hundred years.

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At 10/5/09 02:31 PM, TheReno wrote: So I have a question. Ive always loved the thought of air ships but I dont want it to be steam airships. I want old timey wooden ships with a balloon or maybe the properties of certain woods makes it float. So would that be able to fit into the punk anthologies?

also I will be writing something. Been some time huh?

I think I saw something called wood punk, but maybe you can invent dirigible punk/lighter than air punk/ or something like that. Just make sure that whatever tech flies your ships around is something that really really makes the world what it is and I think you'll be close.

This is sort of the ultimate contest here to showcase your talent. You have to build a world that "makes sense", characters to go along with it, and put something in that world which frightens not only the people that live there, but us as well. This is a challenge of challenges.

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At 10/5/09 02:41 PM, boloneyman wrote: I was listening to the song '30 by Queen a few minutes ago

You mean '39? That's a good song.


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Dayum, that's one confusing genre. I never even knew there were so many genres of writing. I guess all I can hope for in this contest is an average score of 7...

Or perhaps not getting disqualified...

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At 10/5/09 03:43 PM, 4urentertainment wrote: Dayum, that's one confusing genre. I never even knew there were so many genres of writing. I guess all I can hope for in this contest is an average score of 7...

Or perhaps not getting disqualified...

There's actually more. Punk is a set of subgenres making up its own genre, sort of.

You still have all sorts of other genres with their sub-genres and some of them mix and blend in areas. The easiest genres to pick out are generally Fiction and Non-Fiction and everything is then based off of those two. But you still get mixes of even that.

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At 10/5/09 03:42 PM, Luxury-Yacht wrote:
You mean '39? That's a good song.

Well this is embarrassing, I misspelled one of my favorite songs by my favorite band. Just a typo though. Shame on me nonetheless, especially when I got marked down for not thoroughly proof reading in the August competition.

Lots of ideas floating around. I'm going to sit on them and hopefully find the one that can meet the requirements.

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I can't wait for this. Usually, eh, my stories either suck or I don't make them long enough :P This time I've got a great idea! Hopefully I can deliver it in a way that won't ruin it!


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So basically any insane crap you make up is okay.


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As much as this contest's topic enthrawls me, I'm very curious about the Anthology. Got more details for us? :P

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Maybe I'll take a go at one of these next month.


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I really hope I can come up with something for this. I have questions I need answered so i dont fuck up terribly though:

Punk is pretty much an alternated time line to fit the theme of what kind of punk genre it is right?
Also can I mix to genres of punk?
Oh and incorperate horror obviously.

i hope mine doesn't suck too bad..... :(
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At 10/5/09 07:03 PM, Podburrys wrote: As much as this contest's topic enthrawls me, I'm very curious about the Anthology. Got more details for us? :P

It's in its early stages at the moment, so we won't say too much just yet, other than it's on a completely different level to the MWCs. And it's a very ambitious (and hopefully rewarding) project.


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At 10/5/09 07:34 PM, WritersBlock wrote:
At 10/5/09 07:03 PM, Podburrys wrote: As much as this contest's topic enthrawls me, I'm very curious about the Anthology. Got more details for us? :P
It's in its early stages at the moment, so we won't say too much just yet, other than it's on a completely different level to the MWCs. And it's a very ambitious (and hopefully rewarding) project.

I'm definatly interested if you're looking for contributers. It'd be nice to go to a publisher and having said my work's already been printed. :D

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Well I've typed up a story, but I'm completely unsatisfied... I think that I should do something from a first person perspective, but I'm still pondering.


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I never really cared much for writing, but the biopunktheme sounds interesting. I'm going to try to come up with something.

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Hey cool finally a real contest

Well, I'll be writing yet another generic entry, look out for it, because it's going to be wet with genericness

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Go look for houses on halloween that give out candie by leaving out a bowl of candie with a note that says "only take one" then take all the candie and shit in the bowl

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I'm thinking of changing my title from "Metropolis Dawning" to "Flonkerton" (yeah, the Icelandic paper-box-shoe-racing thing from the US Office) as I think it's got a quirkiness about it that invokes a strange intrigue towards the gritty dieselpunk dystopian horror style I'm going for. I've decided to fling my plot straight into high-tension horror and I'll expose the dieselpunk world for what it really is as the story progresses. Might as well post my first paragraph to show you guys the tone that I'm going for. This month my target is up around the 5k marker.

Metropolis Dawning/Flonkerton

He was laughing. He was fucking laughing when he squeezed the trigger that sent the bullet whizzing into my shoulderblade. I fell to the floor in the workshop and I could smell my own blood seeping over the grease stained floor, conjuring something entirely more pungent than the sum of the parts. I could hear my former boss walk towards the warehouse door, and I heard him slide the massive corrugated iron door open a crack. And I heard him drag it shut behind him. And the gentle click of the padlock snapping shut. And then I remembered that it was a Friday night. The factory is closed over the weekend, and in three nights I'd probably be dead. Shortly after the boss left I blacked out from the bloody, greasy fumes. This is a story of revenge.

At 10/6/09 06:27 AM, SireWolf wrote: Go look for houses on halloween that give out candie by leaving out a bowl of candie with a note that says "only take one" then take all the candie and shit in the bowl

I don't think you know what this thread is about. At all.


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I'm thinking about using mythpunk for my submission. If I read the article correctly, mythpunk involves like, magic and stuff, right?

I'm gonna go back to my room and be awesome.
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