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I mean think about it. Adding or subtracting 0 does nothing, Multiplying by zero just equals zero, Dividing by zero is impossible and It can't be used as an exponent.

As far as I know zero does nothing except take up room on my keyboard.

Anyone care to enlighten me?


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It's a place holder, the neutral number between positive and negative.

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didn't the mayans invent 0?

Damn mayans.

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How would you write 100?

or 10?

or 100000000?

or a Google?

Or a googleplex?

Hmmm.


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Because eventually numbers would get jumbled up and non consecutive if there wasn't an even amount, jumping from 9 to 11 doesnt seem bad, but then, 99 to 111 is a bigger jump.

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At 10/4/09 05:39 PM, Neenja-SkLz wrote: It's a place holder, the neutral number between positive and negative.

Yep, it's actually a pretty obscure and vague concept if you think about it. A lot of cultures didn't even list in in their counting system until I think either the Mayans or Incans thought it up.


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At 10/4/09 05:40 PM, misterchees0 wrote: How would you write 100?

or 10?

or 100000000?

or a Google?

Or a googleplex?

Hmmm.

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Zero can be used as an exponent. Anything to the zero power equals one. You need some sort of value that represents nothing.

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I can see where you'd say that for possession of something, such as: I have 0 cards vs I have no cards/I don't have any cards.

But as far as degrees and counting it's definitely necessary. If you every scratch the surface of computers and how they work, you'll find 0 is one of the most necessary numbers of all.


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At 10/4/09 05:43 PM, boloneyman wrote: Zero can be used as an exponent. Anything to the zero power equals one. You need some sort of value that represents nothing.

Unless you are talking about zero to the zeroth power which is DNE


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At 10/4/09 05:40 PM, misterchees0 wrote: How would you write 100?

or 10?

or 100000000?

or a Google?

Or a googleplex?

Hmmm.

Do what most cultures do and give that number a new symbol entierly.


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At 10/4/09 05:44 PM, Ksmittlez wrote:
At 10/4/09 05:40 PM, misterchees0 wrote: How would you write 100?

or 10?

or 100000000?

or a Google?

Or a googleplex?

Hmmm.
Do what most cultures do and give that number a new symbol entierly.

Then that symbol would be counted as zero, zero has a purpose in large math equations how do you represent nothing.

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At 10/4/09 05:46 PM, angryglacier wrote:
At 10/4/09 05:44 PM, Ksmittlez wrote:
At 10/4/09 05:40 PM, misterchees0 wrote: How would you write 100?

or 10?

or 100000000?

or a Google?

Or a googleplex?

Hmmm.
Do what most cultures do and give that number a new symbol entierly.
Then that symbol would be counted as zero, zero has a purpose in large math equations how do you represent nothing.

No then that symbol would be counted as 100 or 1000 or 1000000000 or a google. And instead of asking how we represent nothing why not ask why we NEED to represent nothing? its NOTHING! Just don't include it.


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the purpouse of 0 is to show nothing. (obviously)

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At 10/4/09 05:49 PM, Ksmittlez wrote:
No then that symbol would be counted as 100 or 1000 or 1000000000 or a google. And instead of asking how we represent nothing why not ask why we NEED to represent nothing? its NOTHING! Just don't include it.

It sounds weird but nothing is a value. So I guess it is something.

How would you represent decimal places with out zeros?

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At 10/4/09 05:53 PM, boloneyman wrote:
At 10/4/09 05:49 PM, Ksmittlez wrote:
No then that symbol would be counted as 100 or 1000 or 1000000000 or a google. And instead of asking how we represent nothing why not ask why we NEED to represent nothing? its NOTHING! Just don't include it.
It sounds weird but nothing is a value. So I guess it is something.

How would you represent decimal places with out zeros?

Okay you got me on that one...but now trying to understand that nothing is something is making my brain hurt :/ wheres bill nye the science guy when I need him.


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It's the additive identity.

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At 10/4/09 05:40 PM, OneLastCaress wrote: didn't the mayans invent 0?

Damn mayans.

The Indians invented zero.

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well on its own itss not useable but put any number before it and it has a purpose

10,20,30,40,50

and put a decimal on the end of is and put more 0's and it also has a purpose

0.0024, 0.005803

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Uhhh binary code?

1010101010100101010101010010101010101010 110101010010101

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At 10/4/09 05:37 PM, Ksmittlez wrote: Anyone care to enlighten me?

Zero doesn't just mean that nothing is there... it also (and primarily) means that something COULD BE there. :)

At 10/4/09 05:55 PM, Ksmittlez wrote: but now trying to understand that nothing is something is making my brain hurt :/

Imagine an empty glass cup. It has zero liquid in it... but, it could potentially have liquid in it, right?
^ This is the idea of zero as a placeholder.

Now imagine a cylindrical glass block without any sort of indentations; it cannot contain anything.
^ This is the idea of there not even being a placeholder. ;)

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Zero is the concept of absolutely nothing.

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At 10/4/09 05:42 PM, Samen wrote:
Yep, it's actually a pretty obscure and vague concept if you think about it. A lot of cultures didn't even list in in their counting system until I think either the Mayans or Incans thought it up.

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At 10/4/09 05:37 PM, Ksmittlez wrote: I mean think about it. Adding or subtracting 0 does nothing, Multiplying by zero just equals zero, Dividing by zero is impossible and It can't be used as an exponent.

As far as I know zero does nothing except take up room on my keyboard.

Anyone care to enlighten me?

it can be used as an exponet if u use it for 40 u would get 4


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0 was created by ancient people to say in numbers that there is nothing there.

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At 10/4/09 06:29 PM, Rozner wrote: Zero is the concept of absolutely nothing.

But isn't nothing actually something?

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