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At 10/5/09 10:01 PM, Jercurpac wrote: The GBA remake of the original hasn't been too bad at this point, mostly because it's incredibly easy.

I have the PS1 remake. It keeps the difficulty of the original. The GBA remake has a proper MP system, and I've heard it has faster leveling. I would definitely trade Origins for Dawn of Souls.

I am a little wary of III and IV as I've heard the DS remakes retain every bit of their old school brutality.

It would definitely explain the last temple of FF4. Where leveling up at that point doesn't help at all.

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As an update I just helped some filthy little gnome blast the fuck out of the continent. I'm sure he just killed thousands of innocent animals with his disgusting desires to constantly dig and destroy the orderly beauty of nature, but that's what you get from a horrible creature like a gnome. Now I got some mother fuckers asking me to kill a vampire for them. What the fuck genre am I in here? I was just fighting some troll king and now I'm apparently on to fucking Nosferatu.

Hahaha! My thoughts exactly at that point.

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Alright moving along again, got a little lost because a complete lack of direction given to me by the game. I plowed my way through the caverns, beat the shit out of Dracula, spelunked the rest of the way down and finally took out the Lich quite handily. At this point I'm shown a little scene of the way being cleared in the Earthgift shrine. Now, I thought this was where I was supposed go next, seems logical, no character has said otherwise. Plus the enemies there weren't that tough. Even easier than the previous dungeon. Get to the end though and you're faced with four bosses that are just real motherfuckers. If you play smart you can last a little bit against them, but at this point it's clear that there's no way to beat any of them. Apparently instead of going to that dungeon I was supposed to sail around until I found a random port that lead me to a new town.

So apparently the dungeon the game took great pains to show you was now accessible isn't where you should go and a town no one has mentioned was my next destination. I'm fairly certain this bullshit was intentionally included to just fuck with the player. I've noticed several things like this. In the cavern that leads you to Dracula and eventually the Lich I was wandering along when all of a sudden I walked into an area I've come to call The Corridor of Go Fuck Youself. For reasons unknown the encounter rate in this small section goes to 100%. Every fucking step you have to fight the same tough enemies. I struggled through this because I thought such a frustrating endeavor might lead to some valuable treasure. No, it just loops you back to an area you've already been.

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Haha, seems like you got yourself into the Hall of Giants/Gigas. That part really aggrivated me the first time I tried to navigate the Earth Cavern.


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Well fuck me, I just realized that if I unequip that stupid fucking iron nunchaku I've had on my monk for most of the game he becomes a fucking beast.

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You have just fallen prey to what I call 'Dragon Warrior Syndrome'. How the hell do they expect you to find some random port town? Oceans have no landmarks, no bearings, and there's no map, and no one told you where to go. Then again, I guess exploration's part (actually all) of the charm of that game.

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At 10/8/09 11:53 PM, Jercurpac wrote: I'm fairly certain this bullshit was intentionally included to just fuck with the player. I've noticed several things like this.

I've been playing through the game as well recently and I am at about the same point as you are. I also noticed that the game often leaves you clueless on where to go and if you're unlucky you'll drop into a zone with enemies twice as tough as you are. They could at least give the player a map or something...


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At 10/9/09 02:02 AM, MattTheParanoidKat wrote: if you can't beat atleast one game stop calling yourself a man.

Pfft, real men play Contra.


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At 10/9/09 02:02 AM, MattTheParanoidKat wrote: Wow, nice, hope you make it. Plus, this is Final Fantasy, if you can't beat atleast one game stop calling yourself a man.

It's never been a matter of can or can't. They can be tough, but they're not impossible for me. I just play for forty hours or so and for whatever reason I just get bored and RPGs are hard to get into after you've been away for a while. You can consider this penance for all they games I've ever said "fuck it" to and tossed away to be forgotten once the difficulty got to a point where I couldn't be bothered spending the extra grind or practicing time.

Watch this and get inspired.

That motherfucker beat Hydlide. I had that game as a kid and never got more than five minutes into it without shutting off my NES in frustration. I tried it again when I was older and when I realized that it was essentially an RPG where you had no control over the outcome of the battles I gave up ever trying to get anywhere in it. The cart is still sitting on a shelf in my house. It mocks me.

Watch this for lulz

I've seen those before good stuff. Even if the game has some real issues I'll always have a warm spot in my heart for VIII, it being my first Final Fantasy and the first proper RPG that I've ever put any real effort into.

And read this because... I'm a whore :P

And a filthy one at that.

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The only one of the final That i've manage to come close to completion was FFVII seven but my Party was already dead by the time after Sephiroth's Last form. I've never figured how to go against the Gem weapon That you find under water

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At 10/9/09 12:42 AM, Jercurpac wrote: Well fuck me, I just realized that if I unequip that stupid fucking iron nunchaku I've had on my monk for most of the game he becomes a fucking beast.

I did the same exact thing. He was my second strongest physical fighter, and I did not see his benefit. Until....I un-equiped him! He started doing 10's of hits and wrecking bitches.


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At 10/8/09 11:53 PM, Jercurpac wrote: I was wandering along when all of a sudden I walked into an area I've come to call The Corridor of Go Fuck Youself. For reasons unknown the encounter rate in this small section goes to 100%. Every fucking step you have to fight the same tough enemies. I struggled through this because I thought such a frustrating endeavor might lead to some valuable treasure. No, it just loops you back to an area you've already been.

Hahaha, I remember that. I thought I broke the game somehow. It's just that pathway, I assure you. If you want to grind, then use that path because you'll have only a short walk back to the exit.

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Still cruising along at a fairly steady clip. Beat the second fiend. She was the hardest boss so far, but she still went down quick and I wasn't at any risk of losing. I just a little odd that those twelve sages who have nothing better to do all day then to stand around in a circle send me after her while neglecting to tell me that it's a task that involves literally WALKING THROUGH FUCKING LAVA. That's a pretty serious detail to leave out. You motherfuckers think it's easy to be a warrior of light? I don't get health benefits for this shit. I don't have a union to negotiate a better deal. If saving your asses involves walking through lava I've got to grin and bear that shit, I don't have a fucking choice in the matter. You could a least give me a heads up.

In any case I beat the second fiend, did the ice cavern, got the airship, went through the tower of trials, got some sexy upgrades.

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I always thought the twelve sages were kind of shady characters. Just sitting there, all day.... In a circle...

Then again, I guess every character in that game just sits around and does nothing. Like that crazy witch.

Also, I'm going to post this every day until you beat Final Fantasy 2.

DON'T SELL THE BLOOD SWORD! YOU NEED IT TO BEAT THE FINAL BOSS!

(Unless you enjoy grinding for 100's of hours).

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At 10/11/09 10:59 PM, beautheschmo wrote: DON'T SELL THE BLOOD SWORD! YOU NEED IT TO BEAT THE FINAL BOSS!

I don't require nor do I want any kind of help. It's not a challenge if I run to people every time I get stuck or even before I do. I now have to beat the game without the bloodsword. Thanks.

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Wait I don't get where the challenge is.

Is there a time limit?
Some sort... of... challenge?
None of those games are particularly hard to finish anyway :O
Plus you've already finished them.

I don't get this. BUT HEY :D


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I couldn't finish any Final Fantasy games after 7. 8 was far too emo and repetetive for me, and all the rest featured men featured as women.

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At 10/14/09 04:25 PM, poxpower wrote: Wait I don't get where the challenge is.

Is there a time limit?
Some sort... of... challenge?
None of those games are particularly hard to finish anyway :O
Plus you've already finished them.

I don't get this. BUT HEY :D

The point is he never actually beat any of the Final Fantasy games... mostly because he gave up whenever he died. But I'm with you, none of them are hard.

Plus, he better use the Active Time Battle system.


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At 10/12/09 12:03 AM, Jercurpac wrote:
At 10/11/09 10:59 PM, beautheschmo wrote: DON'T SELL THE BLOOD SWORD! YOU NEED IT TO BEAT THE FINAL BOSS!
I don't require nor do I want any kind of help. It's not a challenge if I run to people every time I get stuck or even before I do. I now have to beat the game without the bloodsword. Thanks.

It's hardly help if it's fucking essential to win.


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I've beat FFX,FFTA,FF3(ds)&FFTA2
I am 99% finshed on 4(DS) and Have been 80% finshed on 6
(gba) but every time if ignore the game more then a day it erases my saved games(which really pisses off because all my charcters were lv 40 and learned the best spells*)
*arise reraise raise firaga thuderaga blizzarga drain osmose regen reflect etc.) that took 8+ hours to do because to AP bullshit (It wouldn't be so bad if enemy gave more 10 AP or so)
plus I taught dualcast to gogo (because he can't use espers unless he copies someone else's summon)

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At 10/14/09 10:43 PM, Blaze-Heatnix wrote:
It's hardly help if it's fucking essential to win.

Here's how you beat 100% of FF games:

- Find a save point
- Level up

Success.
All of them are calibrated for you to get to the final boss at level like 35-40. The second you beat that by like 10 levels the games become really easy. The only time this trick may not entirely work is on FF8. But that game is so easy to abuse in so many other fun ways and is by far the easiest FF game ever made if you know what you're doing.


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At 10/12/09 12:03 AM, Jercurpac wrote:
At 10/11/09 10:59 PM, beautheschmo wrote: DON'T SELL THE BLOOD SWORD! YOU NEED IT TO BEAT THE FINAL BOSS!
I don't require nor do I want any kind of help. It's not a challenge if I run to people every time I get stuck or even before I do. I now have to beat the game without the bloodsword. Thanks.

Don't be like that...

C'mon...

Seriously, I'm just trying to save you like 100 hours of ill-defined stat and magic grinding... (Cause I spent like 60 hours or something grinding, and I still couldn't beat him). And why would you start this forum, if you aren't even going to consider advice? You're free to try beating him without the blood sword, but it's going to be a long, boring week (or two).

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At 10/14/09 04:25 PM, poxpower wrote: Wait I don't get where the challenge is.

It's not supposed to be a superhuman challenge. It's more of a personal challenge. I'm a big fan of JRPGs, to a point. Eventually I get to a point in the game where I've been playing for forty plus hours and I just can't take it and I quit. I'm trying to reverse that and beat all these games I've given up on, and then some.

Oh, and I'm currently not making any progress on FF because my saves kept getting erased and it was pissing me off. Plus, I've been playing Brutal Legend.

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At 10/17/09 06:37 PM, Jercurpac wrote:
Oh, and I'm currently not making any progress on FF because my saves kept getting erased and it was pissing me off. Plus, I've been playing Brutal Legend.

So, you made it through like, one game?

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Finally back on track with this, should have the first FF beaten within the week.

Finally figured out how to obtain and where to bring the magical macguffin that gets me into the underwater sanctuary. Oddly enough the woman that was blocking my path decided to vaporize into an ethereal mist as I brought the item to her. Either she was a ghost the whole time or my party's awesomeness was so overwhelming that her physical body was obliterated.

The underwater sanctuary was interesting for two reasons. First off it breaks the laws of physics. No matter which level you're at the water level is always as high as that floor. You'd think that going down a floor would engulf you in water and going up would move you away from it completely, but no.

Secondly, the big boss is a giant tentacle-rape monster. Of course, he's titles Kraken, but I know a tentacle-rape monster when I see one and that dude's forced his seed into many a fair and virtuous maiden. My team fucked him up while being squirted with a minimal amount of monster goo and trekked their merry way back to the surface.

But wait, wasn't there supposed to be something else down there that I should have been looking for? Some kind of tablet that one of the NPCs may have briefly mentioned in passing.

Motherfucker.

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So what classes are you using? I found that a party of Warrior, Black Belt, White and Black mage was ridicously overpowered less than halfway through the game, and I wasn't even grinding. Or maybe it's just the PSP version...

Also, I doubt you need the Blood Sword to win. I don't remember using it. Final Boss was easy as hell.


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Got the Rosetta Stone and quickly made my way to Lufenia. Unfortunately it's not that simple. I have to find some dude in some town to help me translate this shit. After an hour of wandering around the world I finally find him and he is able to instantly become fluent in a forgotten language just by looking at it for a few seconds. He further demonstrates his brilliance by teaching my the language in the same amount of time. Shit, if this guys so fucking great he might as well go take on Tiamat.

In any case I went up a tower, warped to some sort of flying fortress, kill a dragon, and now I have to wander the world some more because I can't remember in which town those goddamn sages are loafing around. You'd think after fighting monsters all over the world they could schlep their asses over to me.

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At 11/11/09 02:02 PM, Jercurpac wrote: After an hour of wandering around the world I finally find him and he is able to instantly become fluent in a forgotten language just by looking at it for a few seconds. He further demonstrates his brilliance by teaching my the language in the same amount of time. Shit, if this guys so fucking great he might as well go take on Tiamat.

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Well well, I hope you can succeed. I may be one of the few people that enjoyed FFII, but I can't say whether you'll like it or not. Anyways, go forth with the power of the crystals and whatnot.


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I'm just curious how much time you spend per day playing roughly. This challenge seems like something i would never have the time to even attempt

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