Forum Topic: What I dislike about maths

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Posted at: 9/30/09 10:32 PM

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I hate it when I come across a bunch of formulas and they just expect you to know what every variable represents... Seriously, I think mathematics should be standardized so that every equation MUST have a legend of sorts that tells us what each variable means.
An equation that represents relationships between meaningless variables means NOTHING.

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The idea is that you do know what the symbols represent. There's no point in reading a paper you're not ready to read.

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I have to agree here, math and other scientific stuff is hard to read. Even if you are ready for the subjects. They are simply not educational at all, people should be required to take a class in educational writing when writing about, well anything other than novels.

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c is speed of light, m is mass, v is volume, d is density, e is energy.

Thats all I've got.


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Except when c is the hypotenuse, e is the natural base thingy and d is the circumflex.

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Posted at: 10/2/09 05:52 PM

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lol 'c is the hypotenuse'

c doesn't stand for hypotenuse - just cuz they use it in a question for that doesn't mean it's a standard 'symbol' for it.

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Posted at: 10/3/09 02:40 AM

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Math is cool. I never found a book that doesn't have a legend to explain what is what though. Unless you're trying to read math off the internet which is kinda hard


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At 10/3/09 02:40 AM, kiwi-kiwi wrote: Math is cool. I never found a book that doesn't have a legend to explain what is what though. Unless you're trying to read math off the internet which is kinda hard

in say, physics theres alot of expectation for you to know what symbol means what, but in terms of just general algebra, yeah variables are represented by letters and, variables change, and as such the letters to represent them change

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At 10/3/09 06:59 AM, Leidolfr wrote: in say, physics theres alot of expectation for you to know what symbol means what, but in terms of just general algebra, yeah variables are represented by letters and, variables change, and as such the letters to represent them change

I was gonna bring up the physics thing
if there's ever two letters/symbols that mean different things, the TYPE of problem and the other units are the giveaway as to what the variable is referring to (im a physics nerd :D)

ie k=(1/2)*mv^2 (kinetic energy formula) vs k=R/N (Boltzmann constant)

and other times it just comes down to strict memorization of formulas =o
but if all else fails...write the answers on your hand >_>


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At 10/3/09 06:32 PM, poisyn wrote:
At 10/3/09 06:59 AM, Leidolfr wrote: in say, physics theres alot of expectation for you to know what symbol means what, but in terms of just general algebra, yeah variables are represented by letters and, variables change, and as such the letters to represent them change
I was gonna bring up the physics thing
if there's ever two letters/symbols that mean different things, the TYPE of problem and the other units are the giveaway as to what the variable is referring to (im a physics nerd :D)

ie k=(1/2)*mv^2 (kinetic energy formula) vs k=R/N (Boltzmann constant)

and other times it just comes down to strict memorization of formulas =o
but if all else fails...write the answers on your hand >_>

well i can say in all honesty, i remember no specific equations from physics class, lol, it was awhile ago. but as for the memorization, its easier when you have to do it, lets look at those two equations ya wrote, no one probably knows what the letters mean specifically, but, both are motion formulas, and both start k= so, yeah, you get what i mean there, by process of elimination once you know a few equations you should be able to take stabs in the dark as to what random formulas could possibly pertain to


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At 10/1/09 10:09 PM, elementell wrote: c is speed of light, m is mass, v is volume, d is density, e is energy.

Thats all I've got.

No. Capital V is volume (v is usually (final) velocity), capital E is energy. %u03C1 (rho) is density.

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At 10/4/09 06:05 AM, UnknownFury wrote:
%u03C1 (rho) is density.

Unless you're into electronics in which case rho represents a factor by which the resistance grows with temperature in conductive materials
Also p is pressure, x is position R is a constant in thermodynamics, but I can't remember its name, T is the period or temperature in kelvin, W is power and I'm gonna stop right here.

Remembering physics notations is fun we should make a list or somethin

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At 10/4/09 06:49 AM, kiwi-kiwi wrote:
Remembering physics notations is fun we should make a list or somethin

That's what Wikipedia is for.

I still don't see the original point, unless what you want to let us know is that you're retarded dyslexics.

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Posted at: 10/4/09 11:23 AM

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At 10/4/09 10:14 AM, GustTheASGuy wrote: I still don't see the original point, unless what you want to let us know is that you're retarded dyslexics.

Personally, I just think that my mind is too linear. I have NO mathematical intuition; I literally have to create a 'plan of attack' before I start solving anything otherwise I just get tangled up in confusion and then I lose my train of thought and then my mind goes blank and I have to start over (sigh). It's served me quite well for programming though ;p

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