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It wouldn't be a day on newgrounds without me making a religious thread, so here it is. God can never be disproven, to do such he would have to be based on something, but he's nothing more than a fairytale from a book made over 9000 years ago. If science were to prove anything here's what would happen

Science: Good news, we just proved the big bang theory!

Religion: God created the big bang.

Science: Good news, we just discovered that evolution is true!

Religion: God created evolution.

And that is why god can never be disproven, just like bigfoot. This thread will be deleted 3 seconds after I post it woot.

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Let's go with what you just said.

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At 9/27/09 07:46 PM, Im-A-Pirate wrote: God can never be disproven, to do such he would have to be based on something, but he's nothing more than a fairytale from a book made over 9000 years ago.

You mean the god of religion that's been twisted and bastardized to fit human needs? Yeah, that one doesn't exist.

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God DOESNT exsist, i cna prove it, Lack of physical Proof, What everyone thinks of god is what stories they read from a book which truley needs to be burned to a crisp, eaten by an elephant, shitted out that elephant, mixed with molten steel, made into bullets and shot into each and every person who belives in god! >:( . Its all coincidence, no matter how big it is.


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Science: So God really doesn't exist
Religion: God has fooled us into believing he doesn't exist?
Science: Why the fuck would he do that?
Religion: We're mere mortals, we cannot understand God's intentions
Science: You know what? Fuck you, ok, you're the worst conversation partner ever. In the future I won't be publishing the studies, they'll just go into some dark cellar and rot. You happy now?
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At 9/27/09 07:50 PM, Charak wrote: Its all coincidence, no matter how big it is.

How many coincidences would it take to change your mind? How long would you be able to say "it's just coincidence" before you saw things in a different light? You know, without borderline denial.

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How many coincidences would it take to change your mind? How long would you be able to say "it's just coincidence" before you saw things in a different light? You know, without borderline denial.

It would take NONE, because id belive its all a coincidence, Even if a plane Missed me by mere inchs, its all a coincidence, THe only, and i mean ONLY reason people belive in god is becuase they need a higher power to belive it alright, but me? i dont if shit happens, it happens THATS IT


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You know what I also hate? Christ fangirls on Facebook who put god before all their friends on their friend list.


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At 9/27/09 07:55 PM, wtflolnoob wrote: You know what I also hate? Christ fangirls on Facebook who put god before all their friends on their friend list.

If Newgrounds had a friend list, I'd put Tom Fulp before my friends too.

But that's because I'm a MAJOR brown noser.


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This is what I've been saying for years now.

At 9/27/09 07:50 PM, Charak wrote: God DOESNT exsist, i cna prove it, Lack of physical Proof,

Absence of proof is not proof of absence. Logical fallacy.

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At 9/27/09 07:50 PM, Charak wrote: God DOESNT exsist, i cna prove it, Lack of physical Proof.

You know what else don't have physical proof? Black holes and dark matter, since they are still theories.


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Hey guys, What if Xenu and God are the same almighty being? Everybody who's Christian or Scientology-ist wins.

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If it cannot be disproven then that means it's not worth believing in. It's just circular logic that you can always fill in with additional, made-up details and rationalizations. It's a cheap, dishonest trick.

Also, watch this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34-1W_9Bh oU

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At 9/27/09 07:54 PM, Charak wrote:
How many coincidences would it take to change your mind? How long would you be able to say "it's just coincidence" before you saw things in a different light? You know, without borderline denial.
It would take NONE, because id belive its all a coincidence, Even if a plane Missed me by mere inchs, its all a coincidence, THe only, and i mean ONLY reason people belive in god is becuase they need a higher power to belive it alright, but me? i dont if shit happens, it happens THATS IT

This is very true. Take note of how christians look at old religions like what the Greeks and Egyptians believed in and laugh at it. People have always had a religion to explain their world when there was no scientific explanation. The Greeks believed a god pulled the sun around the earth everyday when we know for a fact that it's just the earths gravitational rotation.

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God is just an excuse for everything science has not yet discovered.

Goodbye.

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At 9/27/09 08:04 PM, AapoJoki wrote: If it cannot be disproven then that means it's not worth believing in. It's just circular logic that you can always fill in with additional, made-up details and rationalizations. It's a cheap, dishonest trick.

You could say the same thing about any theory and fill in the holes of that theory with whatever you want. You could say that the big bang was created by an image of Steven King's face and no one could disprove that.

Also, watch this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34-1W_9Bh oU

You can't just say "Well, we can't find the answer to this question, so there can't be any more questions beyond this," albeit you can't say the opposite. That just doesn't make sense. If we can't answer one question, how do we know whether there are more questions beyond it that we need to answer? We don't.

At 9/27/09 08:10 PM, BoshansStudios wrote: This is very true. Take note of how christians look at old religions like what the Greeks and Egyptians believed in and laugh at it. People have always had a religion to explain their world when there was no scientific explanation. The Greeks believed a god pulled the sun around the earth everyday when we know for a fact that it's just the earths gravitational rotation.

A lot of you seem to be under the assumption that if there is a god, it has to be the god of one of man's religions, but that's not the case.

Yes, man's religion is flawed, but that doesn't disprove god, either.

At 9/27/09 08:11 PM, Hellraiser wrote: God is just an excuse for everything science has not yet discovered.
Goodbye.

Or god is something that science has yet to discover.

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We can't disprove it, because we've never encountered evidence that he doesn't exist. There, I've summed it up.


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Science: if God exists, then why he doesn't do anything to help Africa? and why he has killed millions in the past, if he loves us all and made us according to his image?
Religion: we shall never know the truth until we die and go to his presence in Heaven.

they both don't have enough evidence. in 200 or so years, we might know the truth.


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The universe is too big to assume there is a god. Of all the civilizations that exist upon galaxies, everyone will all have a different understanding of how we all came to be. We will never find the truth behind god. There is more to know than we could handle. Just ask the dinosours.


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That goes both ways, what is the burden of proof for a god to exist? It just leads to a never-ending argument. I prefer to ask if God exists, what kind of personality does he have or what mental illnesses does he present the symptoms of? Also bigfoot has yet to be proven because reliable evidence is still needed.

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God exists.


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At 9/27/09 08:14 PM, InsertFunnyUserName wrote: You could say the same thing about any theory and fill in the holes of that theory with whatever you want.

No you couldn't. That's not how theories work.

Whenever you think up a new theory (well at this point it would just be a hypothesis, not yet a theory), you must ALWAYS ask yourself: "What would prove me wrong?" If you can't answer that question, then your "theory" is void. It doesn't make any predictions. What would your theory explain, if every imaginable observation can be just be squeezed into it, using various ad hoc rationalizations?

For instance if we couldn't detect any background radiation when measuring, we would know there's something wrong with the big bang theory. If we found a fossilized rabbit, or even parts of one, dated to the pre-Cambrian era, then evolution would be completely blown out of the water.

You could say that the big bang was created by an image of Steven King's face and no one could disprove that.

No one would ever claim something like that.

You can't just say "Well, we can't find the answer to this question, so there can't be any more questions beyond this," albeit you can't say the opposite. That just doesn't make sense. If we can't answer one question, how do we know whether there are more questions beyond it that we need to answer? We don't.

So why bother trying to answer, or even ask those question that you don't even know can be asked? God doesn't explain anything, it just postpones the explanation further and launches us into an infinite regress of "if X made Y, then what made X?"

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lol shallow analysis, they work off the 'creative design' theory now, that is more or less what you just presented, people won't believe against anything they strongly agree with. Anyway, let people have their fun, as long as they ignore me I'm quite happy to believe in what I want.

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You cant disprove something that doesn't exist
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At 9/27/09 07:46 PM, Im-A-Pirate wrote: It wouldn't be a day on newgrounds without me making a religious thread, so here it is. God can never be disproven, to do such he would have to be based on something, but he's nothing more than a fairytale from a book made over 9000 years ago. If science were to prove anything here's what would happen

Science: Good news, we just proved the big bang theory!

Religion: God created the big bang.

Science: Good news, we just discovered that evolution is true!

Religion: God created evolution.

And that is why god can never be disproven, just like bigfoot. This thread will be deleted 3 seconds after I post it woot.

I'm trying keeping this post unbiased, my personal beliefs out of this (mainly because I don't know enough to properly argue with someone who doesn't believe; I'll admit it).

But if you're a Christian and you read the Bible, the big bang and evolution should be the farthest thing from your beliefs (since neither are mentioned in the Book of Genesis, when God created the Earth).

If a so-called "Christian" believes in either, tell them to go re-read the Bible. It says God created the world in seven days. Nothing about a big bang or evolution. And if they say "seven days then might not be seven days today," then slap them in the face. Please; they (and many others) give Christians a bad name.

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At 9/27/09 08:32 PM, CaptainCock wrote: God exists. I suck cock.

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A God that can be defined, isn't God.

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