Alice in Wonderland? Was she high?

[Xaxiscis]

Ok, well I just saw the preview for Alice in Wonderland, by Tim Burton.
It comes out in 2010. But considering that anything that Tim Burton makes kicks ass, I'm definently going to see that the day it comes out.

Anyway, I just want to get one thing straight. I've seen the original movie, and it just seems like the entire thing is a mixed-up jumble of somebody's imagination. But one of my friends told me that the reason that the movie is so crazy is because:

At the beginning of the movie, when Alice falls down the hole - she finds that bottle of fluid that says DRINK ME!, which makes her small. Well, I have heard that that bottle really contains acid (or some other halucinogenic), and the moment she drinks it her child mind can't handle the drug, and she instantly becomes high. When she wakes up at the end of the movie, she holds her head like she has a head-ache, this may just be when the drug wore off and she woke up.

Is this true?

[SessileNomad]

she wasnt

the author of through the looking glass was

[Hellraiser]

It's suppose to be a metaphor for a mushroom trip.

Correct me if im wrong.

[Xaxiscis]

At 9/24/09 08:50 PM, Hellraiser wrote: It's suppose to be a metaphor for a mushroom trip.

Correct me if im wrong.

Seriously?

[SessileNomad]

At 9/24/09 08:50 PM, Hellraiser wrote: It's suppose to be a metaphor for a mushroom trip.

Correct me if im wrong.

im fairly certain it was opium, but its still up in there air to whoever gives a crebible link...

[Hellraiser]

All I know is that the author was taking acid.

[EpicFail]

The original movie is based on an acid trip. If that narrows it down any.

[Crashman]

You guys didn't know that?

[Timmy]

I read the actual book 'Alice's Adventures in Wonderland' and I don't remember it being as trippy as the Disney movie adaptation made it out to be.

I feel like the Disney artists were just all heavily into drugs during that period. A lot of disney movies have that 'trippy'/pro-drug feeling to it though.

[Hellraiser]

At 9/24/09 08:53 PM, Hellraiser wrote: All I know is that the author was taking acid.

Actually scratch that, I think Sass was more critical on it. Since the story was written prior to the introduction of LSD, it was a good chance of mushrooms or opium.

[Xaxiscis]

At 9/24/09 08:55 PM, Hellraiser wrote:

At 9/24/09 08:53 PM, Hellraiser wrote: All I know is that the author was taking acid.

Actually scratch that, I think Sass was more critical on it. Since the story was written prior to the introduction of LSD, it was a good chance of mushrooms or opium.

It was probably a reference to opium, considering that is the easiest drug to obtain.
Just freezze poppy seeds, then heat them up. Then grow those in your back yard.

[Sleepless-Wonder]

The author wrote the book under the influence of drugs.

But you're talking about the movie. If I remember it correctly, she wakes up at the end sitting in the meadow where she fell asleep. So it was just a really freaky dream.

[MegamanZero360]

Most good things were influenced by drugs anyways.

But there's always those bad things.

[Chemich]

At 9/24/09 08:53 PM, Hellraiser wrote: All I know is that the author was taking acid.

He's right, back in the old days when Acid was still alright to do no matter who it came from anyways.

That was the whole inspiration for Alice in Wonderland.

To really go down the rabbit hole, you'd need the correct "papers" to do so.

heheheh.

[Digital-Terror]

Apparently, if you watch the animated movie while under the influence of drugs, it's just a normal movie.

[Chemich]

At 9/24/09 09:16 PM, Digital-Terror wrote: Apparently, if you watch the animated movie while under the influence of drugs, it's just a normal movie.

Pretty much.

[Cericon]

I'll have what she's having.

[scarneck]

I doubt the author was under the influence of LSD. Seeing as the book was written in 1865.
Though I would be willing to bet that the people who made the animated Disney version were pretty fucked up.

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[yurgenburgen]

Some people say mushrooms, some people say opium, some people say it was nothing, but the debate goes on and on and there are no conclusions to be found.

[SkyArtist]

Walking cards, talking rabbits with clocks, smiling cat with invisibility patterns and a yawning doorknob. Yeah, they were up to something.

[spikedude101]

Well....I can't say anything about the book, but the movie was REALLY trippy, almost hard to follow as a kid, but I still found it to be a VERY enjoyable film, can't wait for Tim Burdens adaptation.

[Waterdancer]

Well now thanks to games like this, we now know that Alice wasn't just high -- She was also insane.

Alice is Dead - Ep 1, by ImpendingRiot Type: Game Rating: Ages 13+

[ParadoxSaint]

At 9/24/09 08:52 PM, Xaxiscis wrote:

At 9/24/09 08:50 PM, Hellraiser wrote: It's suppose to be a metaphor for a mushroom trip.

Correct me if im wrong.

Seriously?

I don't think so, so much as the entire book could be metaphorically a mushroom trip. I think that this is more of a case of "curiosity killed the cat" and shows that for whatever choice you make there can always be serious implications.

[Liteice]

At 9/24/09 09:32 PM, Waterdancer wrote: Well now thanks to games like this, we now know that Alice wasn't just high -- She was also insane.
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/51 1552

I always thought dark versions of Alice in wonderland were interesting. I always liked the idea that if Alice went to Wonderland as a young adult it would be a dark and scary place. If Alice grew up then so would Wonderland. Nice concept, in my opinion.

Anyways, this movie looks interesting. I'm a bit annoyed that it's going to be live action but hey, Tim Burton is making the movie so I'm sure it's going to be good. The man knows how to make a movie. So yeah, as long as Sora, Donald and Goofy don't make an appearance everything should be alright.

On another note, Johnny Depp is playing the mad hatter. He hits the role pretty well, he played Willy Wonka pretty well so I'm sure he's going to do a good job.

[wtfyourface]

Alison was amazing, that's what she was.

[Noodleboy111]

At 9/24/09 08:54 PM, EpicFail wrote: The original movie is based on an acid trip. If that narrows it down any.
original movie

I really hope you're not impying that the movie was the "original".

Also everybody check out this.

Pogo is a great artist.

[FatJoe214]

Link well your not the only one who thinks it is. But the book was written in 1850 and acid was made in the late 30s so it couldn't be a acid trip.

[Rallard]

Anyone who suggests she was on LSD is an idiot. The story was written before 1900, LSD wasn't synthesized until like 1940, and even then it wasn't really used until the 60s.

Mushroom trip? Maybe, but doubtful. More likely opium because that's what the caterpillar was puffin or something.

But in the end, it's probably just a story from the mind of a weird guy with no underlying drug references.

[Alamadu]

Lewis Carrol wrote both stories long before the invention of LSD. I guess you could argue that he was on other drugs but as far as I know there is no evidence of it or reason to believe he was under the influence while writing.

Literary nonsense was his genre. He just wrote fantasy and was really good at it. Read some of his poems Jaberwocky uses many "words" that aren't words yet it somehow makes sense.

The movie versions aren't really that different. The most famous disney one, I know, does combine the two books into one.

There is a ton of depth to all of his work. I think some of the most interesting is stuff in his stories related to math. His main profession was being a mathematician and he was very gifted with that. For example the Cheshire Cat was a representation of a growing abstract mathematical idea from the time. Basically the idea was about math and numbers themselves. Instead of thinking about "one man" or "two men" you can think of the concept "man" upon which we add the concept "one" or "two". But a more abstract thought is to consider simply "one" or "two" by themselves.....or a grin with no cat, when the grin was originally predicated on the cats presence

[Saren]

The book was maybe...the movie seemed a little different though. I always thought it was just some imaginative dream.

The author may have been high though, that or he's really creative and doesn't need a drug to actually be awesome.