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It's all so much bullshit. Annoying as hell.

There needs to be a system that gives a good, honest, interpretation of drugs. Drugs have bad sides, the media don't need to lie about it.

When I was in highschool, I did fairly well grade wize. Usually I scored in the B- to A- range. However, I remember at least 4 'stoners' who consistently had better grades than me even when I was trying my hardest. But BOY did they look and act stupid.

What I have learned from this experience is looks can be deceiving.

No matter how much you say marijuana is not as bad for you as drinking and smoking, it's still illegal. And for the stereotyping, what do you expect a guy with a tux on offering him a 'hit' as he gets in his mercedes or something? stereotypes make it quick for the viewer to establish the situation and characters.

PLUS there is drinking and no smokigns ads out as well, especially in the UK anyways

holusinations on if you should take drugs is probably a sign that you are on drugs

At 9/21/09 12:19 AM, GayDorf wrote: So in your mind, because marijuana is "less bad" than alcohol and tobacco, it's a reason to consume it?

That's not what he said.

Well, jumping out of a vehicle on a highway at 65 mph is "less bad" than jumping off a 200 foot tall cliff, but that doesn't mean either one is safe or recommended.

As such, your analogy falls flat. Oh well.

think for yourself
making marajuana illigal and people telling me not to use it is making me want to do it more
thank you antdrug campains

Not to come cracking down to you, because as a Dutch person I'm quite liberal about the use of drugs.
But every time I get in these discussions, people will be throwing facts around without providing any links or anything for that matter. They just say, marijuana isn't as bad as alcohol or cigarettes, and the latter I personally don't hold for the truth, since you both smoke it, so it shouldn't make any difference.
Unless you eat it in a chocolate or a cake.

TL:DR, I want some links to some evidence stating that marijuana is in fact less dangerous than any of the conventional drugs like nicotine and alcohol.

Taken from Wikipedia:

Criticism and reactions

Paul Armentano, Deputy Director of NORML wrote an article about "Stoners in the Mist" [1], a recent ad campaign. Funded by the Office of National Drug Control Policy, the campaign feature cannabis users unable to perform even the most basic tasks such as moving, talking, bathing, and even recalling one's own name. Armentano has called the films "offensive" and "derogatory" for the use of stereotypes and "chock-full of disinformation."[2]

In 2006, the Government Accountability Office released the results of 5-year-study, concluding that the campaign was completely ineffective, and was even counterproductive, leading those exposed to an increased perception that others use marijuana, stating, "analysis also indicated that among current, non-drug-using youth, exposure to the campaign had unfavorable effects on their anti-drug norms and perceptions of other youths' use of marijuana-that is, greater exposure to the campaign was associated with weaker anti-drug norms and increases in the perceptions that others use marijuana."

I personally have no problem with the National Youth Anti-Drug Media Campaign trying to steer teenagers in the right direction. I can't say that these commercials have helped anyone or me, but at least their intentions are better. I have nothing against marijuana for use in a free nation, but let's not forget that it does have some side effects. I've met a lot of people who it has effected negatively. Such as drug dealers and kids who rely on it's effects. I also know people who spend all of their entire paycheck on marijuana as soon as they get paid.

Maybe if it were legal people wouldn't need to worry about getting beat up, shot, hustled, and even being caught by police, when purchasing the shit.

They've been airing these stupid ads for years, they're just trying to tell people that if they smoke weed, they'll become a failure. Why target weed as the worst thing you can possibly do, why not start a campaign against heroin instead? I've learned to live with the medias stupidity, and to ignore the ads.

I really hate america, partially because we were basically the ones who came up with the term stereotype, and partially because everything is controlled by the image in society. Smoking is bad, yet people do it, and it causes many long term deaths and problems. however, cars are also very dangerous, and we still use those. Considering with modern technology and motor-less transportation, it would make sense to use thoughs right? Slower, better for the enviroment, next to nothing noise factor, and, if they were as complicated as cars, could still have a/c, radio, a tv, and headlights. The fact that society and the image yo make in society control what is right and wrong seriously piss me off. I know this got kinda of off topic but you can see what im getting at.

At 9/21/09 12:12 AM, nal1200 wrote: If you live in the US, you've probably seen it on one of the television channels directed towards teens and young adults (think AdultSwim on Cartoon network.)

You can view it here. "Shoulders."

Normally I don't give a shit about adverts like these because they're overwhelmingly negative and, quite frankly, obnoxious. 'Who's to tell me what I should and shouldn't do?' Plus, the demonize marijuana as if it were comparable to punching babies in the face. C'mon people, it's statistically less worse for you than alcohol and cigarette smoke.

Its still bad for you either way even if its not as bad as those. Also they're just trying to give you some helpful advice.

Anyway, so the obviously 'average' douche walks into a laundry room (because everyone at parties apparently has to check out the detergent stash) and a dude that is overwhelmingly supposed to resemble a stoner asks him if he wants a hit.

There are two extremely large fallacies that Above The Influence tries to portray upon the 'stoner.'

1. That he must, without question (!) slur and speak in a manner which makes him look stupid, to almost typecast him like the poor saps that go surfing in SoCal. God forbid someone, or perhaps a large percentage of the users of marijuana, deter from the stereotype. Jesus forbid! Hail Mary!

Most stoners I know fit that stereotype. Thats why its a stereotype, because its generaly true.

and 2. That he's going to actually give some douche whom he has no prior friendship a hit. Seriously. Weed is illegal. No one just 'gives' it out to random people. Plus, this is America. We're selfish, ignorant fools. Maybe that's why so many morons buy into this propaganda.

I'm not a stoner, but I'm pretty sure at least some people do that if they're at the same party.

The douche proceeds to hallucinate and envision several groups of people on his shoulders, prompting him to either smoke or stay in school and marry a white woman and worship Jesus.

I don't remember the white woman part. Don't be drawing conclusions.

Obviously, before even finishing the commercial, you know how it's going to end:

He's going to choose to be a conformist.

Thats not always a bad thing.

Because, you see, the commercial itself is a paradox in theory and hypocritical in practice. You can't actually tell someone to "be an individual" and actually carry this out in practice by believing such tripe. How is one supposed to make a decision with little miniature people on their shoulders whilst you shove conservative ideals down their throat?

There is no debate, the commercial, and ultimately Above The Influence, wants you to make the decision for yourself. Only you can decide who you want to be. As long as you don't smoke weed.

Its giving you the alternative. Its your choice to do it or not. Obviously people don't listen if your making this thread.

By all means, be yourself, just make sure that yourself is the person we want you to be.

Well good luck making it in life if its gonna revolve around smoking pot. Again, they're trying to help you.

It's a PSA so of course it's stupid. But the cigarette PSA's are even dumber.

I am in favor of people smoking marijuana... if we have people who are allowed to smoke cigarettes and drink alcohol, why not? But let's say marijuana was legalized, well people would still bitch about it and thus pot smokers would be limited to where they can smoke it just like the cigarette smokers.

that sh1t is propaganda

when that one girl was at the party..i would have grabbed her boobies

and i also think osmeone would have raped her...SHOW ME THAT PART...it'll entertain me >:D

This is how you piss off a stoner: say 'weed is a drug'
they'll be all 'nah it's a plant' and try to convince you that it's from the earth so it's ok to smoke.

1. They negatively represent stereotypes, which is fundamentally dishonest.

2. Marijuana is healthier than alcohol and tobacco, not less worse.

3. These adds make me want to smoke weed more because they are lying to me, or manipulating the truth.

4. I simultaneously hate and feel sorry for anyone who believes or follows the example made in these adds.

At 9/21/09 12:12 AM, nal1200 wrote:

He's going to choose to be a conformist.

lost me at this comment. How is doing the opposite of what 98% of America does being a conformist? Thats like all the goth kids dying there hair black and calling the one kid with brown hair a conformist.
sigh... you sir are a fool.

Jesus Motherfucking Christ, this became a flame war between Pro-Marijuana NGer's and Anti drug NGer's.

Do whatever the fuck you want, just try to be a slightly contributing member to the human race whilst doing drugs, bad habits, etc.

But nonetheless the advertisements are praying on your stereotypes of pot heads and thus it worked in a way, shit i don't want my tween smoking marijuana but even if they did i wouldn't shit storm them.

Tons of people die because they're high, weed or otherwise. But then again Tons of people die because their fucking idiots.

Also,Shakespeare is from a time when marijuana was legal,and used as a medicine,so he was probably a pot smoker.

I've smoked weed.

It's not at all how they portray it.
Although I am worried about losing those braincells.

I find it hilarious how you think its better than drinking or smoking.

At 9/21/09 12:38 AM, jake-thesnake wrote: Seriously take it from someone's who's smoked pot before:

Do what the fuck you want to do, when you want.

Awesome.

and please don't do things because other people are doing it.

Fantastic.

I did it because noone else in 6th grade was.

God damn you.

At 9/21/09 12:34 AM, Sizzlebuzz wrote: Would he be a conformist and "not an individual" if he had? What should he have done to be an idividual?

To be an individual, you do what you want, and that's it. If you base your judgment from the commercial, that's conforming. It doesn't make a difference if you smoke weed or not after being given the info (however stupidly it may be portrayed). If you want to smoke it, then smoke it. I see what you're saying though. The commercial is sending mixed signals. "Be an individual. Don't smoke pot." But if only the stereotypical "stoners" are hitting the bong, then they're the ones that are the individuals, and you're a conformist. I dunno, I think it's stupid the way all these are set up. I smoke pot because I like it. There's really no other reason. No peer pressure, or accidentally finding it from some raspy-voiced guy with long hair in a laundry room. Above the influence is stupid.

At 9/21/09 12:38 AM, GayDorf wrote: Marijuana, even if it isn't as bad for you as other drugs legal or illegal, is still bad for you in some degree and is therefore stupid to pump into your body.

Look man, my grandpa smoked cigarettes from when he was 15 until he died at 87. And he never got lung cancer or anything like that. Now marijuana has less smoke going into your lungs. So how is it "bad" for you? There are no long term effects from it whatsoever. So how is bad for you?

At 9/26/09 02:50 AM, PinballWizard976 wrote:

At 9/21/09 12:34 AM, Sizzlebuzz wrote:

Look man, my grandpa smoked cigarettes from when he was 15 until he died at 87. And he never got lung cancer or anything like that.

Hey that's great bro, just tell that to people who got lung cancer at 25 when they started smoking at 15.

ahem..

drugs are bad..

but life is too short

people die

i don't see a point in an ad campaign that projects situations. everyone knows the stupid anti-cig ads; i hate the dramatics, but at least they get facts across. ATI uses social sterotypes to portray their messages; i suppose those can work, but facts are a lot more essential for making a sound decision.

as for the legalization thing; it's impossible to determine if legalized marijuana could benefit the country.

pros: less people in jail, less trafficking of marijuana, regulation, possible jobs
cons: more drug related accidents, a possible rise in crime, public unrest (the dividing of a divided nation), more kids on marijuana

i personally don't think marijuana is that bad for you; marijuana is only as bad as you can make it be. sometimes, i think america could be better if it were legalized, but god knows the implications.

it sucks; life is too short to live in a society where smoking pot should be frowned upon, but i guess we're too opinionated for our own good.

What I find there is; what does individuality have to do with choosing to smoke something?
Like I'm going to become exactly like every other person of that type because I do one thing they do.

I'm gonna go ahead and say that 75%< of the people I frequently talk to have tried or frequently use weed and not all of them end up sitting around their house living like a bum that has no future whose families have disowned them.
I know because many people in my family use the shit and their doing fine. I just ain't gonna do none of that thoguh.

Dude weed isnt bad for you at all and so many normal hard working people smoke it

but maybe what you do when you're high could hurt you

Thats about it though

All I can say is that you cant change the will of others. People do what they want and as for my experience with weed, I've only smoked it twice and I have to admit the only bad thing about it for me was using a pipe to smoke it because I had to inhale so deeply just to keep the weed burning long enough to produce the smoke...

Wow, this is such an original thread. UTFSB

I wonder how effective these commercials actually are. Probably not very.

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