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i hate the OP so much

You are an ignorant piece of shit undeserving of life.

ironic

I love freedom.

again ironic

At 10/2/09 04:35 PM, Hellraiser wrote: We should sue society for assult?

Do you notice the spires? The spires with smoke blasting out of them? Do you happen to notice how high they are? Do you happen to notice that they are too high for people to see the tops? Do you have any idea were your nose is located? It is on your face, hundreds of feet below the smoke, those factories "destroy" the environment, which I am not worried about.

Smoking should be illegal, period.

But that's never going to happen, because they've got their hands too deep in the countries pockets. We'd need a buzzsaw.

At 9/27/09 03:51 PM, yurgenburgen wrote: To be honest I am still waiting for an explanation as to why suicide is more of a crime than assault.

Are you really that stupid? One way, a life has been taken, the other, the life is only damaged.

At 10/2/09 04:14 PM, ELITE-101 wrote: assault

Indeed.

Generally, the essential elements of assault consist of an act intended to cause an apprehension of harmful or offensive contact that causes apprehension of such contact in the victim.

Check.

The act required for an assault must be overt.

Doctors could see the damage.

Although words alone are insufficient, they might create an assault when coupled with some action that indicates the ability to carry out the threat. A mere threat to harm is not an assault; however, a threat combined with a raised fist might be sufficient if it causes a reasonable apprehension of harm in the victim.

Quite obvious.

i win you lose, go play in traffic

By no means does what you have given me qualify as a win.

At 10/2/09 04:42 PM, letiger wrote: i hate the OP so much

You have no logical reason to.

At 10/2/09 04:45 PM, TheStonePilot wrote: Smoking should be illegal, period.

But that's never going to happen, because they've got their hands too deep in the countries pockets. We'd need a buzzsaw.

Indeed.

At 10/2/09 04:41 PM, HighJack wrote:

At 10/2/09 04:08 PM, Catsownyou wrote: Highjack hates other peoples freedom and america, and is a paranoid sissy.

You are an ignorant piece of shit, undeserving of life. I do not hate America yet, and even if I did that would say absolutely nothing absolutely my views, I love freedom.

You are a hypocritical piece of shit!

:A tad bit of communist statements have been made.

Whatever, this belongs in the politics forum anyway.

The reason why smoking isn't illegal is because the government is making billions of dollars off of taxes from sales. But I think if drugs are banned, smoking should too because they both eventually kill you and smoking death is a much horrible death. Or they couldjust unban drugs and let the stupid people kill themselves. Also there will be 100% less drug crimes if they unban drugs and less carchases, etcetera. But I am not taking any sides for this situation. I'm just stating both arguments and the positives and negatives of them.

At 10/2/09 04:49 PM, geterkikzkid wrote: You are a hypocritical piece of shit!

I am not a hypocrite. You know this, otherwise you would've presented proof.

The act required for an assault must be overt.

Doctors could see the damage.

ok so in the OP you said passer bys as in the smoker is stationary and some1 walks by, that causes no damage what so ever, i grew up with a chain smoker (he was a grand father who passed recently, if you insult him so help me i will track you down and anally rape your face) and i smoke about a pack a week now, im perfectly find i can run a mile no problem and so some1 walks by and gets 1/100 of a puff, that i exhaled it aint gona do shit, gtfo of NG we dont want you

At 10/2/09 04:54 PM, ELITE-101 wrote: ok so in the OP you said passer bys as in the smoker is stationary and some1 walks by, that causes no damage what so ever

Learn what the fuck you are talking about.

, i grew up with a chain smoker (he was a grand father who passed recently, if you insult him so help me i will track you down and anally rape your face) and i smoke about a pack a week now,

You are both ignorant.

im perfectly find i can run a mile no problem and so some1 walks by and gets 1/100 of a puff, that i exhaled it aint gona do shit, gtfo of NG we dont want you

Think about how good you could be if you didn't smoke? You are throwing away life you could be living for moments of fading pleasure, you are pathetic. 1/100 of puff won't kill anybody, but it will harm them, granted not very much but it will still harm them.

At 10/3/09 12:14 PM, HighJack wrote: You are both ignorant.

again ironic

Think about how good you could be if you didn't smoke? You are throwing away life you could be living for moments of fading pleasure, you are pathetic.

yes because i smoke its as if i have a disability i totally know how Helen Keller felt.
also smoking isnt like doing a drug how am i throwing my life away by using the 30 min break i get at work to smoke a jack or smoke one before i got to bed. clearly i am pathetic because i believe in freedom of choice and i dont project my thoughts on to other people.(im saying ironic again but in a long drawn out sentence)

thats my last post for this fail thread im out injoy being someone who hates freedom of choice

i really hate 2nd hand smoke

i got smoked the first time and they killed it,
then i got smoked again and fell down the bridge.
it sucks when you realized there were 2 smokers...

There has been no sufficient evidence that proves "2nd hand smoke"has toxic effects on the human body. As for direct tobacco smoking, if somebody desires to put their life and general health at risk for a recreational drug. That's their choice, deal with it.

I'm enjoying a cigarette while intoxicated as I type this illiterate, brief response.

I used to Smake, now I (Thank God) quit, Now when Im around people who Smoke, I hate the Smell...

At 10/3/09 12:41 PM, Pollyto wrote: I used to Smake, now I (Thank God) quit, Now when Im around people who Smoke, I hate the Smell...

I Smake too, I'm glad people share my interests.

You meant Smacking a Smoker, right?

ITT: Smokers and people who complain about weed not being legal, amirite?

Don't take life so seriously, noone gets out alive anyway.

At 9/25/09 11:53 PM, HighJack wrote: If this is an argument against me, it is extremely pathetic. Think of this scenario, I cut you, it heals, now according to your logic that is not assault because it healed.

Not the same at all. If someone cuts me, it hurts me immediately, in a painful, obvious way. If I breathe in second hand smoke, it doesn't hurt. In fact, the only immediate effect (and possibly the only effect at all) is a smell that some people find unpleasant.

Personally, I think that if you care that much just move away. Let people smoke, they may as well enjoy the time they have here. Just out of interest, why are you so pissed and also, how old are you? I was kind of suspicious that you may be 12 years old (and what is this) when you spelt 'ozone' O-Zone.

Oh, and since in most of your replies you give one word answers to each point, such as 'pfft' or 'yes', you don't actually make any defense, you just kind of agree and ignore what they said. In fact, you ignore what a lot of people say when the arguments are so water-tight you don't dare reply.

At 10/3/09 01:57 PM, jakabite wrote:

At 9/25/09 11:53 PM, HighJack wrote: If this is an argument against me, it is extremely pathetic. Think of this scenario, I cut you, it heals, now according to your logic that is not assault because it healed.

Not the same at all.

Exactly the same.

If someone cuts me, it hurts me immediately, in a painful, obvious way.

Not necessarily, you've never noticed a cut somewhere and you have no idea how it got there?

If I breathe in second hand smoke, it doesn't hurt. In fact, the only immediate effect (and possibly the only effect at all) is a smell that some people find unpleasant.

Once again, not necessarily, you've never seen someone cough in the presence of smoke?

Personally, I think that if you care that much just move away. Let people smoke, they may as well enjoy the time they have here. Just out of interest, why are you so pissed and also, how old are you? I was kind of suspicious that you may be 12 years old (and what is this) when you spelt 'ozone' O-Zone.

Ozone is not a word I encounter on a daily basis.

Oh, and since in most of your replies you give one word answers to each point, such as 'pfft' or 'yes', you don't actually make any defense, you just kind of agree and ignore what they said. In fact, you ignore what a lot of people say when the arguments are so water-tight you don't dare reply.

I have easily refuted everything so far.

Who cares, you're going to die somehow you faggot.

At 10/3/09 12:36 PM, MasterJarri wrote: There has been no sufficient evidence that proves "2nd hand smoke"has toxic effects on the human body.

Second hand smoke harms someone very little, but still harms them.

At 9/20/09 03:52 PM, HighJack wrote:

At 9/20/09 03:45 PM, yurgenburgen wrote: It's only assault if the primary intention is to harm others. The primary intention of smoking isn't to harm others, so it's not assault.

Drunk driving, the primary intention is not to kill, but when you do, it is still murder.

Nope, it's vehicular manslaughter, dumbass. You fail at being clever.

At 10/3/09 12:29 PM, ELITE-101 wrote:

At 10/3/09 12:14 PM, HighJack wrote: You are both ignorant.

again ironic

Not ironic, truth.

Think about how good you could be if you didn't smoke? You are throwing away life you could be living for moments of fading pleasure, you are pathetic.

yes because i smoke its as if i have a disability i totally know how Helen Keller felt.

What?

also smoking isnt like doing a drug

It is a drug.

how am i throwing my life away by using the 30 min break i get at work to smoke a jack or smoke one before i got to bed.

You are dying a little bit every time, time that could be used to enjoy life, now wasted, when you get old, you'll feel sorry you were this ignorant.

clearly i am pathetic because i believe in freedom of choice and i dont project my thoughts on to other people.(im saying ironic again but in a long drawn out sentence)

You are pathetic, but not for those reasons, because you are ignorant. I believe in freedom of choice as well, but I will always project my thoughts, because they are logical and not ignorant.

thats my last post for this fail thread im out injoy being someone who hates freedom of choice

I love freedom of choice, but not to the point where you believe it justifies assaulting someone.

Once again, not necessarily, you've never seen someone cough in the presence of smoke?

yes because if we all used that logic the very air we breath is assaulting us

your a fucking idiot, i want to kill you.(seriously)

At 10/3/09 04:21 PM, chickenpenus wrote:

Once again, not necessarily, you've never seen someone cough in the presence of smoke?

yes because if we all used that logic the very air we breath is assaulting us

your a fucking idiot, i want to kill you.(seriously)

Why is it the only people disagreeing with me are stupid? Air cannot assault, it is inanimate, it does not know what it is doing.

At 10/3/09 04:17 PM, Danavers wrote: Nope, it's vehicular manslaughter, dumbass. You fail at being clever.

Let us continue to argue about that which is irrelevant.

At 10/3/09 04:15 PM, HighJack wrote:

At 10/3/09 12:36 PM, MasterJarri wrote: There has been no sufficient evidence that proves "2nd hand smoke"has toxic effects on the human body.

Second hand smoke harms someone very little, but still harms them.

Wow, that's like a random person walking down a sidewalk and accidentally bumped into a stranger, and the stranger starts yelling, "Hey! That's assault! I'm gonna sue you!"

However in that case it might be true that it could be assault (more like an annoyance, and IF the random person did it on purpose), smokers as far as I know try not to blow their tobacco smoke onto them on purpose.

If anything, switch your words to assault to accidental harm, and murder to accidental manslaughter.

No just shut the fuck up already, you've losing this argument by 100 to 1.

The real question is; when did smoking become okay?

"I'm soooo fucking cool, I can destroy my lungs with cancer sticks"

I'm taking the piss here but my point is the same.

The only reason smoking hasn't been entirely banned is because it bring in so much fucking revenue for the governments.

At 10/3/09 04:50 PM, TNT wrote:

At 10/3/09 04:15 PM, HighJack wrote:

At 10/3/09 12:36 PM, MasterJarri wrote: There has been no sufficient evidence that proves "2nd hand smoke"has toxic effects on the human body.

Second hand smoke harms someone very little, but still harms them.

Wow, that's like a random person walking down a sidewalk and accidentally bumped into a stranger, and the stranger starts yelling, "Hey! That's assault! I'm gonna sue you!"

You just compared a situation where no one is harmed to another where someone is harmed. Completely illogical.

However in that case it might be true that it could be assault (more like an annoyance, and IF the random person did it on purpose), smokers as far as I know try not to blow their tobacco smoke onto them on purpose.

They don't have to blow it, if someone walks by and breathes it, they have been assaulted.

If anything, switch your words to assault to accidental harm, and murder to accidental manslaughter.

No, it is assault.

No just shut the fuck up already, you've losing this argument by 100 to 1.

I have yet to lose.

Nonsence.

If you go and handle this way, you can even sue people for sneezing in public, which can also make others sick.

At 10/3/09 04:25 PM, HighJack wrote:
Why is it the only people disagreeing with me are stupid? Air cannot assault, it is inanimate, it does not know what it is doing.

Yet obviously smoke is conscious and knows what it's doing.

Also, I doubt you're winning any fans. The logic being used against you is watertight, and everything you say has so many holes in. It's kind of embarrasing to watch you do this.