If you were president?

[SiMpSoN-bRuVaS]

If you were elected president what would be the most important policy change you would put into place and why?

[altanese-mistress]

I would begin a plot to set off a nuclear device in a major city, to justify a declaration of martial law through the entire United States and the suspension of all elections pending the end of the crisis. I wuold have evidence falsified to say that the terrorists who set off the device are based in cells through Canada. Following that, I would send an ultimatum to the Canadian government; they either they find and extradite all terrorists in a month's time, or I will send in the armed forces to occupy their nation until they are found. If they refuse, then they are at war with the Union. Either way, Canada will be annexed. Quebec will be freed as a puppet state with the former provinces of Quebec, Newfoundland, New Brunswick, Nova Scotia, and Prince Edward Island. The other provinces and territories will eventually become new states.

Of course that's just for starters. The Mexican Drug War is a good excuse to meddle in their internal affairs, and Cuba will be in a bit of chaos when Castro dies.

[Ansel]

i would make chilling out required by law

[TonyTostieno]

At 9/19/09 10:07 PM, Ansel wrote: i would make chilling out required by law

Thank god someone realize people need to calm the fuck down already. Shit.

[Ericho]

I would definitley legalize marijuana, because that would be the most obvious of making things legalized which is what we need to have more of in this country.

[JeremieCompNerd]

I would establish additional members of the presidential cabinet that would be voted on by the public. These cabinet member's job titles would range from moral adviser (We deserve at least one honest man/woman near the president...) to ecosystem specialist. These additional cabinet members would work for the people, would be voted out when and if the people decided they were no longer working in the best interests of the public, (Voting occurs once annually, no term limits, emergency mid-term voting possible if a petition is signed by at least 30% of the population), and they would have the job of keeping the president fully informed on the course of action desired by the American people, and the course of action they personally recommend as the most effective for their area of expertise.

[TheReno]

I couldnt be president because I would try to do something that someone else would oppose, so I would kill that man or men or whatever.

"But what about democracy?" The dying senator asked, choking out these words.
"Oh its still in effect, its just that my shotgun voted against you."

But major changes I would do would be to bring back tariffs, implement a 30 MPG minimum fuel usage in new cars, Tell global warming to go fuck itself and stop all this wasting time and money on preventing it. Legalize prostitution and implement the codes the germans use for their prostitutes and leagalize weed to tax it good.

[altanese-mistress]

At 9/20/09 12:00 PM, TheReno wrote: "But what about democracy?" The dying senator asked, choking out these words.
"Oh its still in effect, its just that my shotgun voted against you."

"Diplomatic immunity!" *is shot*
"It's just been revoked!"

Yeah, that's way better. Your response to the senator was a bit too wordy.

[dySWN]

I would ruthlessly slash excess from the government.

Every federal bureau not specifically deliniated in the Constitution would have would get one hour of my time to tell me why the country needs them; obviously important organizations, such as the FDA and FBI, would be exempt from this. Then, if the bureaucracies couldn't do that, I'd cut their entire budget and send it somewhere more productive.

I would also make it a stated goal to veto every last bill that cannot fund itself in such a way as to be deficit neutral, and strongly lean on Congress to eliminate pork-barrel spending. I really want to cut taxes, but we need to get our national debt under control first.

[unowned]

mike gravel style

[TheReno]

"Diplomatic immunity!" *is shot*
"It's just been revoked!"

Yeah, that's way better. Your response to the senator was a bit too wordy.

*Shoots the senator*
"Youve just been vetoed"

*Note this only works on people named Bill

[RightWingGamer]

i have a laundry list:

no illegal immigrants

no abortions

very, very low taxes

invade iran, north korea

stop flag-burning

no pork barrel spending

find bin laden

finish the job in iraq

assassinate kim jong il

respond immediately to every threat against nat'l security

tell environmentalists to shove it where the sun don't shine

and if anyone disagrees with me, i won't care.

[fatape]

At 9/20/09 07:58 PM, RightWingGamer wrote: i have a laundry list:

so basicly no freedom no passion no liberty......

nice

what id do:

-legalize all drugs

- make it so the u.s. has a universal healthcare system

-cut the military budget in half and spend the money I save on scientific research

- start a colony on the moon.

-take the word "god" out of every government document /money

I can think of more but thats it for now :p

[RightWingGamer]

At 9/20/09 08:10 PM, fatape wrote:

At 9/20/09 07:58 PM, RightWingGamer wrote: i have a laundry list:

so basicly no freedom no passion no liberty......

when did i say that?

-legalize all drugs

and get america stoned off its ass so that someone might actually think you're doing a good job?

- make it so the u.s. has a universal healthcare system

and bankrupt every man, woman, child and fetus in the entire nation? BRILLIANT!!!

-cut the military budget in half and spend the money I save on scientific research

yeah, because who needs shit like protection and safety when you have stuff that private corporations could do much better anyway?

- start a colony on the moon.

damn straight! screw the fact that there isn't any oxygen and all the colonists would die a horrible death of axfixiation in a matter of seconds (hours with a space suit) as well as the fact that luna (our moon) has absolutely no natural resources and the insane amount of time, energy and money it will waste and i think you're onto something.

-take the word "god" out of every government document /money

okay, i'm an atheist, but even I think that's pretty damn stupid

I can think of more but thats it for now :p

i await your response, you liberal $#%@#%@%!%!%@%#@$%@%!@^%@#@$^@%. peace. :)

[darkrchaos]

If I was president i start by taking away stupid laws we don't need and make this more the land of the free. Change the jail system and stop wasting so much money helping people that should have it while stopping billions-airs from getting away with what ever they want.

[altanese-mistress]

At 9/20/09 07:58 PM, RightWingGamer wrote: i have a laundry list:

Eh?

no illegal immigrants

The fact that they're -illegal- immigrants sort of shows they aren't supposed to be here in the first place.

no abortions

The President has that power?

very, very low taxes

And you'll pay for the military... how? Not even mentioning education, welfare, healthcare (universal or otherwise), prisons, or a large number of other expenses. Well I just did mention them but yeah.

invade iran, north korea

1. The president cannot declare war without Congressional approval. 2. Do that and you would greatly harm America on the international scene, even with friendly nations.

stop flag-burning

I honestly don't care either way about it.

no pork barrel spending

Because that's easy to do, innit?

find bin laden

Oh, we were supposed to be looking for him?!

finish the job in iraq

How do you propose to do that?

assassinate kim jong il

And then his son or a general takes his place.

respond immediately to every threat against nat'l security

Such as?

tell environmentalists to shove it where the sun don't shine

Screw the environment. Let those fags in the 22nd century deal with it!

and if anyone disagrees with me, i won't care.

And that's why you wouldn't be elected.

[RightWingGamer]

At 9/20/09 08:50 PM, altanese-mistress wrote:

At 9/20/09 07:58 PM, RightWingGamer wrote: i have a laundry list:

Eh?

as in a LONG list. :P

no illegal immigrants

The fact that they're -illegal- immigrants sort of shows they aren't supposed to be here in the first place.

tell that to them

no abortions

The President has that power?

this is moar of a political wishlist, but i CAN propose a bill.

very, very low taxes

And you'll pay for the military... how? Not even mentioning education, welfare, healthcare (universal or otherwise), prisons, or a large number of other expenses. Well I just did mention them but yeah.

simple, take out welfare altogether, privatize healthcare, minimize "other expenses", and keep taxes just high enough to pay for everything else.

invade iran, north korea

1. The president cannot declare war without Congressional approval.

obviously i'd get approval.

:2. Do that and you would greatly harm America on the international scene, even with friendly nations.

ok, name one friendly nation that gives two shits about countries that like to threaten everyone that they have nukes.

stop flag-burning

I honestly don't care either way about it.

i'm really fine with pretty much any other form of protest, but that just crosses the line

no pork barrel spending

Because that's easy to do, innit?

you just don't spend much, it's that simple.

find bin laden

Oh, we were supposed to be looking for him?!

yes, but not hard enough. we never factored in the possibility that maybe he LEFT afghanistan.

finish the job in iraq

How do you propose to do that?

stay in until the situation is stable.

assassinate kim jong il

And then his son or a general takes his place.

assassinate son/general, then. duh.

respond immediately to every threat against nat'l security

Such as?

i meant as they arise.

tell environmentalists to shove it where the sun don't shine

Screw the environment. Let those fags in the 22nd century deal with it!

by the 2100, we'd have found an easier way to stop such problems

and if anyone disagrees with me, i won't care.

And that's why you wouldn't be elected.

says you, but like i said, this is really more of a wishlist.

[X-Gary-Gigax-X]

Shaddup, the two of you.

[RightWingGamer]

At 9/20/09 09:07 PM, X-Gary-Gigax-X wrote: Shaddup, the two of you.

no u!

[altanese-mistress]

At 9/20/09 09:04 PM, RightWingGamer wrote: tell that to them

I'm just saying, it's not as if there isn't already a system.

this is moar of a political wishlist, but i CAN propose a bill.

And if it were illegal, people would still do it. It would just be far less safe and sanitary.

simple, take out welfare altogether,

So then the elderly, disabled, and impovershed can just go to hell?

privatize healthcare,

And then a huge surge in preventable diseases and untreated injuries....

obviously i'd get approval.

Say's you.

ok, name one friendly nation that gives two shits about countries that like to threaten everyone that they have nukes.

Even South Korea doesn't want war with North Korea. Japan would probably shit in it's pants. China wouldn't get involved in the war, if anything they'd help invade if we started, but our relations would be hurt. As for Iran, well it's not as if we haven't pissed off the Middle Eastern nations enough, right?

i'm really fine with pretty much any other form of protest, but that just crosses the line

Again, don't care. But you know, the proper way to dispose of an old flag is to burn it.

you just don't spend much, it's that simple.

It's easy on paper, but then you have thousand page long bills barely anyone reads a little bit of.

yes, but not hard enough. we never factored in the possibility that maybe he LEFT afghanistan.

We have. We've even mounted missions into northern Pakistan in conjunction with their own forces to clear out Taliban cells in northern Pakistan.

stay in until the situation is stable.

But there needs to be -some- change in strategy. The only solutions for us are to either surge in there with the full might of the United States armed forces, or get out of there.

assassinate son/general, then. duh.

So just one after another, eh? Why's that a good idea?

by the 2100, we'd have found an easier way to stop such problems

But the thing is, we're seeing the effects already. The ice caps are melting, thousands of species are dying out, we've probably already passed peak oil, the landfills are overflowing, smog levels are at an all time high.... By 2020 there will be a lot of irreparable damage.

says you, but like i said, this is really more of a wishlist.

Usually to be elected, you need to, you know, listen to your constituents.

[fatape]

At 9/20/09 08:22 PM, RightWingGamer wrote: when did i say that?

you didn't directly say it but what you choose to write shows it

and get america stoned off its ass so that someone might actually think you're doing a good job?

people already get stoned if they want to this will just make it safer and create legitimate jobs.

and bankrupt every man, woman, child and fetus in the entire nation? BRILLIANT!!!

the fact is universal healthcare is CHEAPER then the insurance based system the u.s. has now .

yeah, because who needs shit like protection and safety when you have stuff that private corporations could do much better anyway?

the u.s. spends more money on themilitary then the rest of the world COMBINED, cutting this in half won't threaten your security.

damn straight! screw the fact that there isn't any oxygen and all the colonists would die a horrible death of axfixiation in a matter of seconds (hours with a space suit) as well as the fact that luna (our moon) has absolutely no natural resources and the insane amount of time, energy and money it will waste and i think you're onto something.

- we would create suitable enviroments for people to live on

-its not a waste if we adavnce human knowledge and further our quest for discovery

okay, i'm an atheist, but even I think that's pretty damn stupid

why?

i await your response, you liberal $#%@#%@%!%!%@%#@$%@%!@^%@#@$^@%. peace. :)

although I most closely resemble a liberal I have no political alliance and as such im open to anything :).

[RightWingGamer]

At 9/20/09 09:25 PM, altanese-mistress wrote:

At 9/20/09 09:04 PM, RightWingGamer wrote: tell that to them

I'm just saying, it's not as if there isn't already a system.

yeah, there is... it's just not very well enforced.

this is moar of a political wishlist, but i CAN propose a bill.

And if it were illegal, people would still do it. It would just be far less safe and sanitary.

so just because a few nutjobs wanna stick a coat hanger in their cooch to kill their unborn child, we should legalize it for everyone?

simple, take out welfare altogether,

So then the elderly, disabled, and impovershed can just go to hell?

no, so they can get a job. :P

privatize healthcare,

And then a huge surge in preventable diseases and untreated injuries....

again, just because a few insurance co.s are assholes doesn't mean that the government should put them all out of business and f-up the economy

obviously i'd get approval.

Say's you.

again, wishlist. :P

ok, name one friendly nation that gives two shits about countries that like to threaten everyone that they have nukes.

Even South Korea doesn't want war with North Korea. Japan would probably shit in it's pants. China wouldn't get involved in the war, if anything they'd help invade if we started, but our relations would be hurt. As for Iran, well it's not as if we haven't pissed off the Middle Eastern nations enough, right?

among those you just listed, how many of them are getting threatened by the promise of nuclear weapons?

i'm really fine with pretty much any other form of protest, but that just crosses the line

Again, don't care. But you know, the proper way to dispose of an old flag is to burn it.

yes, but that's different, when you dispose of a flag, it's because it's worn and tattered, and even then it's supposed to be a ceremony. you don't dispose of it by running out into a crowded protest, dunking it in lighter fluid, screaming "I HATE AMERICA", and then setting it ablaze with a lighter.

you just don't spend much, it's that simple.

It's easy on paper, but then you have thousand page long bills barely anyone reads a little bit of.

again, just don't propose any bill longer than a few pages.

yes, but not hard enough. we never factored in the possibility that maybe he LEFT afghanistan.

We have. We've even mounted missions into northern Pakistan in conjunction with their own forces to clear out Taliban cells in northern Pakistan.

that's it, JUST pakistan?

stay in until the situation is stable.

But there needs to be -some- change in strategy. The only solutions for us are to either surge in there with the full might of the United States armed forces, or get out of there.

dude, we already took the country, we just need to stay in a little longer until the iraqi people get a sufficient army.

assassinate son/general, then. duh.

So just one after another, eh? Why's that a good idea?

until they stop being total douchebags about their nukes.

The ice caps are melting,

no, they aren't. global warming is a natural process that comes and goes every so often.

thousands of species are dying out,

ever hear of evolution?

we've probably already passed peak oil,

key word: probably.

the landfills are overflowing,

and your solution to said problem is?

smog levels are at an all time high....

again, we'd find an easier solution down the line.

By 2020 there will be a lot of irreparable damage.

wrong, it's ALL repairable one way or another.

says you, but like i said, this is really more of a wishlist.

Usually to be elected, you need to, you know, listen to your constituents.

i will, but more importantly, i will be honest about all these positions on the campaign trail, so the american people can choose whether they want me or not.

[RightWingGamer]

At 9/20/09 09:45 PM, fatape wrote:

At 9/20/09 08:22 PM, RightWingGamer wrote: when did i say that?

you didn't directly say it but what you choose to write shows it

what, because it doesn't agree with your positions?

and get america stoned off its ass so that someone might actually think you're doing a good job?

people already get stoned if they want to this will just make it safer and create legitimate jobs.

if people are getting involved with the drug cartel, they don't deserve safety.

and bankrupt every man, woman, child and fetus in the entire nation? BRILLIANT!!!

the fact is universal healthcare is CHEAPER then the insurance based system the u.s. has now .

wrong, the gov't just calls it cheaper. lowering the price doesn't lower the cost. in fact, alot of the better doctors and surgeons won't accept a gov't check, and some will simply quit.

yeah, because who needs shit like protection and safety when you have stuff that private corporations could do much better anyway?

the u.s. spends more money on the military then the rest of the world COMBINED, cutting this in half won't threaten your security.

link, pl0x

damn straight! screw the fact that there isn't any oxygen and all the colonists would die a horrible death of axfixiation in a matter of seconds (hours with a space suit) as well as the fact that luna (our moon) has absolutely no natural resources and the insane amount of time, energy and money it will waste and i think you're onto something.

- we would create suitable enviroments for people to live on

again, waste of time, money, and energy.

-its not a waste if we adavnce human knowledge and further our quest for discovery.

this isn't star trek, and we've already BEEN to the moon, if there's anything of interest on that rock, we'd already have it.

okay, i'm an atheist, but even I think that's pretty damn stupid

why?

because there's a big difference between having your own personal beliefs and pissing of every christian in america.

i await your response, you liberal $#%@#%@%!%!%@%#@$%@%!@^%@#@$^@%. peace. :)

although I most closely resemble a liberal I have no political alliance and as such im open to anything :).

once again, i await your response.

[altanese-mistress]

At 9/20/09 09:52 PM, RightWingGamer wrote: yeah, there is... it's just not very well enforced.

How should it be enforced, then? What, we gather up all Latino people and put them into 'temporary relocation facilities' until we can make sure they're legal?

so just because a few nutjobs wanna stick a coat hanger in their cooch to kill their unborn child, we should legalize it for everyone?

Yes. No one is forcing abortion.

no, so they can get a job. :P

The elderly and disabled can get a job? And what if they are looking for a job? Or have a job but still can barely afford to feed their family?

again, just because a few insurance co.s are assholes doesn't mean that the government should put them all out of business and f-up the economy

You mean like how the postal service has put businesses like Fed-Ex in the shitter?

among those you just listed, how many of them are getting threatened by the promise of nuclear weapons?

Um.. Every one of them? I mean, fucking -South Korea- wants peace with their northern brother. Who are we to go fuck that up?

yes, but that's different

I really don't think you understand my whole "I could care less" stance.

again, just don't propose any bill longer than a few pages.

If only the law worked that way, eh?

that's it, JUST pakistan?

No. All over the region. Other than Iran, and Osama Bin Laden is an enemy of Iran.

no, they aren't.

The hell? Yeah, they are.

global warming is a natural process that comes and goes every so often.

But it is a fact that humanity is having an impact. It's just a matter of how big of an impact.

ever hear of evolution?

Let me add an ammendment to that last fact: They're dying out due to human intervention; hunting, clearing of habitats, etc...

key word: probably.

As in, more likely than not.

and your solution to said problem is?

There's a new thing called recycling...

again, we'd find an easier solution down the line.

Why not sooner?

wrong, it's ALL repairable one way or another.

What, do you propose mending holes in the ozone layer?

[RightWingGamer]

At 9/20/09 10:19 PM, altanese-mistress wrote:

At 9/20/09 09:52 PM, RightWingGamer wrote: yeah, there is... it's just not very well enforced.

How should it be enforced, then? What, we gather up all Latino people and put them into 'temporary relocation facilities' until we can make sure they're legal?

lol, no. when someone tries to take advantage of a public service, just ask for proof of citizenship.

so just because a few nutjobs wanna stick a coat hanger in their cooch to kill their unborn child, we should legalize it for everyone?

Yes. No one is forcing abortion.

but it just shouldn't be there, anyway. you can't mutilate a defenceless fetus in cold blood and call it freedom.

no, so they can get a job. :P

The elderly and disabled can get a job? And what if they are looking for a job? Or have a job but still can barely afford to feed their family?

and having them rely on gov't checks that they didn't earn solves that, how? besides, you do know that every one of those welfare checks comes from tax payer money, right? so that means that it's coming from someone with ability and going to someone with needs. hmm, "from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs" where have i heard that before?

again, just because a few insurance co.s are assholes doesn't mean that the government should put them all out of business and f-up the economy

You mean like how the postal service has put businesses like Fed-Ex in the shitter?

fed-ex does things the post office can't, which is why they're still afloat.

among those you just listed, how many of them are getting threatened by the promise of nuclear weapons?

Um.. Every one of them? I mean, f*****g -South Korea- wants peace with their northern brother. Who are we to go f**k that up?

if they want peace, doesn't a nuclear threat run counter-productive to that end?

again, just don't propose any bill longer than a few pages.

If only the law worked that way, eh?

think, the constitution is nowhere NEAR 1,000 pages long, and yet it is easily the best lawmaking document in the nation.

that's it, JUST pakistan?

No. All over the region. Other than Iran, and Osama Bin Laden is an enemy of Iran.

doesn't matter, the point is that there's always more we can do.

global warming is a natural process that comes and goes every so often.

But it is a fact that humanity is having an impact. It's just a matter of how big of an impact.

ever think that our impact might be positive?

ever hear of evolution?

Let me add an ammendment to that last fact: They're dying out due to human intervention; hunting, clearing of habitats, etc...

the earth had dominant species before humans came around, but the dinosaurs never posed any threat to the planet.

key word: probably.

As in, more likely than not.

as in, a guess.

and your solution to said problem is?

There's a new thing called recycling...

then, let's utilize it, screw all these overly-complicated "solutions" that won't solve anything.

again, we'd find an easier solution down the line.

Why not sooner?

because further down the line, it'd be easier.

wrong, it's ALL repairable one way or another.

What, do you propose mending holes in the ozone layer?

the ozone layer is composed of O3 gas, which is a varient of O2 "breathable" gas. just scientifically engineer O3 and release it into the atmosphere.

[Ansel]

i stand by my policy of relaxation

[Dawnslayer]

At 9/20/09 07:58 PM, RightWingGamer wrote: no illegal immigrants
no abortions
very, very low taxes
invade iran, north korea
stop flag-burning
no pork barrel spending
find bin laden
finish the job in iraq
assassinate kim jong il
respond immediately to every threat against nat'l security
tell environmentalists to shove it where the sun don't shine
and if anyone disagrees with me, i won't care.

In order: Giant security budget, not up to you, not up to you, not up to you, not up to you, good luck getting Congress on board with that, break a leg, break a leg, we have a history of assassinating bad people and putting worse people in their place, even bigger security budget, see you in the air-and-water-filtering underground bunker, and good luck finishing all those goals in one presidential term, 'cause you're not getting re-elected with that attitude.

[altanese-mistress]

At 9/20/09 10:55 PM, RightWingGamer wrote: lol, no. when someone tries to take advantage of a public service, just ask for proof of citizenship.

Driver's license, passport, birth certificate? Those can be faked. And I'm not sure what else you'd use with it still being readily available

but it just shouldn't be there, anyway. you can't mutilate a defenceless fetus in cold blood and call it freedom.

The whole process is totally misrepresented by people who protest against it.

Either way, no one is pro-abortion. No one who gets an abortion likes it or wants to do it. They just choose what they think is the best possible decision.

and having them rely on gov't checks that they didn't earn solves that, how?

By... not.... starving? Or freezing?

besides, you do know that every one of those welfare checks comes from tax payer money, right?

No shit. That makes it bad?

so that means that it's coming from someone with ability and going to someone with needs. hmm, "from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs" where have i heard that before?

There it is. Ability and need. People do what they can and get what they need. What's wrong with that?

And maybe if people didn't live in fabulous wealth and luxury while a few short miles away an elderly person freezes in their home or children cry from hunger, I would agree with a laissez-faire economic system.

fed-ex does things the post office can't, which is why they're still afloat.

Exactly. It's competition. The same would happen with healthcare.

if they want peace, doesn't a nuclear threat run counter-productive to that end?

North Korea's nuclear weapon development is completely as a deterrent. They have WMDs to ensure America doesn't invade. They -know- America can take them down. With nuclear weapons, they can ensure that America wouldn't try. It's why the United States and the Soviet Union never went to war. So yes, nuclear deterrence is a means of peace. It has prevented World War III for over half a century.

think, the constitution is nowhere NEAR 1,000 pages long, and yet it is easily the best lawmaking document in the nation.

It's open to a lot of interpretation. You're against flag burning, yes? What about as an act of protest or free speech? Again, I don't care about that in particular, but pointing out that someone will find loopholes and such.

doesn't matter, the point is that there's always more we can do.

Should we invade India and Egypt and; just for the hell of it; Turkey?

ever think that our impact might be positive?

No, because that is a retarded thought.

the earth had dominant species before humans came around, but the dinosaurs never posed any They didn't build factories.
as in, a guess.

No, as in, -probably-. Probably means a great likelihood.

then, let's utilize it, screw all these overly-complicated "solutions" that won't solve anything.

Such as?

because further down the line, it'd be easier.

"I propose we go to the moon, and do the other things. Not because they are easy, but because they are hard."

the ozone layer is composed of O3 gas, which is a varient of O2 "breathable" gas. just scientifically engineer O3 and release it into the atmosphere.

That is a gross oversimplification of the entire process.

[animehater]

At 9/20/09 03:28 PM, dySWN wrote: I would ruthlessly slash excess from the government....

Damn straight!

[RightWingGamer]

At 9/20/09 11:38 PM, altanese-mistress wrote:

At 9/20/09 10:55 PM, RightWingGamer wrote: lol, no. when someone tries to take advantage of a public service, just ask for proof of citizenship.

Driver's license, passport, birth certificate? Those can be faked. And I'm not sure what else you'd use with it still being readily available

just put a watermark on the real deal.

but it just shouldn't be there, anyway. you can't mutilate a defenceless fetus in cold blood and call it freedom.

The whole process is totally misrepresented by people who protest against it.

how's that? it's killing a child, is it not? i don't see how you can misrepresent that.

Either way, no one is pro-abortion. No one who gets an abortion likes it or wants to do it. They just choose what they think is the best possible decision.

that's not the point, the point is that you can't kill someone before they've lived.

and having them rely on gov't checks that they didn't earn solves that, how?

By... not.... starving? Or freezing?

once again, JOBS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11 11!!!!!!

besides, you do know that every one of those welfare checks comes from tax payer money, right?

No shit. That makes it bad?

i don't want some hobo's allowance coming out of my paycheck, so yes.

so that means that it's coming from someone with ability and going to someone with needs. hmm, "from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs" where have i heard that before?

There it is. Ability and need. People do what they can and get what they need. What's wrong with that?

the problem is that someone who works hard should be rewarded, someone who lazes around in a gutter should GET A JOB! besides, haven't you ever heard of private charity?

And maybe if people didn't live in fabulous wealth and luxury while a few short miles away an elderly person freezes in their home or children cry from hunger, I would agree with a laissez-faire economic system.

go back to china, COMMIE!

fed-ex does things the post office can't, which is why they're still afloat.

Exactly. It's competition. The same would happen with healthcare.

WRONG! insurance is VERY different, because all that matters there is prices. if the gov't provides it for a lower price, all the insurance co.s would be shit out of luck. then, once the government's ruined all the insurance companies, it would go out of biz because it would be giving prices lower than it could afford, thus losing money and dying.

if they want peace, doesn't a nuclear threat run counter-productive to that end?

North Korea's nuclear weapon development is completely as a deterrent. They have WMDs to ensure America doesn't invade. They -know- America can take them down. With nuclear weapons, they can ensure that America wouldn't try. It's why the United States and the Soviet Union never went to war. So yes, nuclear deterrence is a means of peace. It has prevented World War III for over half a century.

NK is threatening to wipe us off the map! I wouldn't call that a deterrent force. sure, if they were just keeping them, i wouldn't have a problem, but since they are actually LAUNCHING THEM INTO SPACE, i think that's a little different.

think, the constitution is nowhere NEAR 1,000 pages long, and yet it is easily the best lawmaking document in the nation.

It's open to a lot of interpretation. You're against flag burning, yes? What about as an act of protest or free speech? Again, I don't care about that in particular, but pointing out that someone will find loopholes and such.

the reason the constitution is so great is that it can be amended to cope with different problems, so loopholes can be fixed.

doesn't matter, the point is that there's always more we can do.

Should we invade India and Egypt and; just for the hell of it; Turkey?

no, but we SHOULD keep our eyes open.

ever think that our impact might be positive?

No, because that is a retarded thought.

douche

the earth had dominant species before humans came around, but the dinosaurs never posed any threat.

They didn't build factories.

we need factories to give people jobs, and produce items of interest to keep the economy going.

then, let's utilize it, screw all these overly-complicated "solutions" that won't solve anything.

Such as?

such as greenpeace.

because further down the line, it'd be easier.

"I propose we go to the moon, and do the other things. Not because they are easy, but because they are hard."

that was a different time, the USA and USSR were trying to prove which nation was better, so tried to do harder things. these days, there's no such contest, so we should wait until it becomes more practical.

BTW, who was that quote from?

the ozone layer is composed of O3 gas, which is a varient of O2 "breathable" gas. just scientifically engineer O3 and release it into the atmosphere.

That is a gross oversimplification of the entire process.

how so?