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prowlie2

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Posted at: 9/19/09 06:55 PM

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how long till we have something like a united states of eurasia?
10's 100's or 1000's of years


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hopefully 10's

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it won't happen, because none of those countries want to give up their sovereignty.

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At 9/19/09 10:08 PM, Ansel wrote: it won't happen, because none of those countries want to give up their sovereignty.

Don't forget language barriers. Short of a full-scale invasion by one European country (impossible because of M.A.D. likelihood), the concept of a fully united Europe is dead.

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At 9/19/09 06:55 PM, prowlie2 wrote: how long till we have something like a united states of eurasia?
10's 100's or 1000's of years

No one will want to merge. For the big reason that it'd consolidate too much power. Better to just work together and shit on everybody you don't like behind the scenes then consolidate offices and basically only have one chief. That's what I see the governmental perspective (and this by governmental I mean ALL govenments who'd be involved) on this.

Plus Rome proved it's possible to conquer and administrate large tracts of land...for awhile...but eventually the natives get restless and foreign invaders perceive weakness and get in. I don't think overt empire really works for anybody these days.

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At 9/20/09 01:42 AM, aviewaskewed wrote:
At 9/19/09 06:55 PM, prowlie2 wrote: how long till we have something like a united states of eurasia?
10's 100's or 1000's of years
No one will want to merge. For the big reason that it'd consolidate too much power. Better to just work together and shit on everybody you don't like behind the scenes then consolidate offices and basically only have one chief. That's what I see the governmental perspective (and this by governmental I mean ALL govenments who'd be involved) on this.

Europe is kind of merging right now. I mean, we're getting a unified coinage, a unified constitution that overrules the countries own constitution, a unified defense, a unified wall against immigrants (basically removing the right of asylum), and it's already been talk about a EU president.
This despite whatever the citizens of the individual countries think. Here in Sweden the majority was against having our constitution changed by EU, but the politicians didn't seem to care about that, so now we're screwed in that respect. When we voted no to Euro, the politicians said "Oh, well, we'll just make a new vote in a couple of years and continue to do so until you vote yes".

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Hoping for a unified government on any scale is kind of like hoping for rain... be careful what you wish for. That is, it's not the Unified Europe you should be hoping for, but a Europe that can maintain sovereignty and individuality, and if such a unified force would be beneficial to its people.

That said, Europe seems to be unifying no matter what the people say, so my bets are on "it's bad" and I hope it doesn't happen.

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What is the Russian Federation, if not a union of Eurasian states?

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United States of Eurasia by Muse should be the national anthem.

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At 9/19/09 06:55 PM, prowlie2 wrote: how long till we have something like a united states of eurasia?
10's 100's or 1000's of years

It will probably be 1000's.


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