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Personaly i think all Humand are religious. It makes us what we are.

When religion is determind as a set of activities or belief that insipre awe or reverence

(trust me im an archaeologist)

anyway....

The point is we are all looking for something, all of us seek answers... all of us seek comfort from natural parinoia and fears.

People look for answers in Dieties
Poeple look for answers in Nature
Poeple look for answers in Science

yes science... science is asking questions by nature... we want answers! we want to know fundimentaly who we are and where we came from!

people look for answers everywhere and those searches make us all religious... we all have those questions in the backs of our minds and each seek to comfort our selves or investigte in differnent ways.

Religion is comforting... look up to the skys... think about the size of the universe... then think about us.. about our size, the probability of our existance... it will drive people crazy to know how insignificant we are... but to look up there at the vastness and complexity of our universe and think "how could there possible not be some higher force?!" how is it possilbe that in a universe so complex... so vast... balenceing on the edge of never having existed anyway... how can it be acidental

thats religion.

god im boring

look i just said hgod im boring!! argh! dam christians have implanted their ways into our damn culture without our permission!!

At 2/16/04 01:06 PM, Maragriz wrote: First off, I want to say in advance. Thank you for the responces to this subject. New grounds members have some more intelligent opinions. Any way here it is.

I'm from Lititz, 'white america','crakertown','honkyville','christan-city'.Ya know. The christan students started (well, actually this has been around for a while) an after school bible study at the school, the school never saw anything wrong with this, I don't either but the part that I do have a problem with is the fact that the christans pass out flyers about teachings and whatnot (personally, I belive forceing your belifs on others is moraly wrong)

Then the Athiests feel the need to antagonize and annoy the christans because they want everyone to be as depresed as they are. So they post up a Satanic Bible study just out of spite.And so the two have been at it ever since.

My opinion on the whole thing is 1. The Christans have no right to be forceing their belifes on others

I've never seen any christian force their religion on anyone. If you call them sharing their religion with people "forcing", well then, pardon me. That whole freedom of speech thing threw me off.

2. If the school wants to have a bible study, then their should be an Islamic, a jewish, or any other religous study group. If you give space to one, then you must give to all.

I agree with you here. I do not think, however, that religion should be cut out of school altogether. In a way that's saying that you aren't allowed to be yourself at school. That's a load of bullshit.

3. The Athiests don't need to sart somthing every time they see somthing that offends them. ( look, I'm offened by the following: 1. 'The Veiw'
2. Baptists
3. stupid people (all kinds)
and 4. easy listening music
But you don't see me trying to get rid of any of these things. I just deal with it.

any questions or comments. Maragriz_X@yahoo.com is the address.
using common sence since 1985
-Maragriz

Hold on... i have a genious moment coming... BOOYA!

I believe anyone that takes a page of the bible and rolls it into a dooby deserves a seat.

At 4/17/04 04:09 AM, MocawOfDoom wrote: Hold on... i have a genious moment coming... BOOYA!

I believe anyone that takes a page of the bible and rolls it into a dooby deserves a seat.

Have you even read most of the Bible? There are a lot of good stories in there and you don't even have to take it religously. That's the cool thing about the Bible, if you aren't using it religously you could use it for English class, even if you were the teacher. Granted you might get some ticked off parents, but those type seem to get ticked off over everything.

One time, back in '48 I reckon, our outhouse ran outta pages from the Sears catalogue, so we had 'ta use the bible for toilet paper. It was much better, all that ultra-thin waxy paper, 'stead a that hard ol' Sears catalogue. That was some good wipin', boy.

Well seeing as you are 24 you have not lived long enough... what? You were joking? Oh yeah I knew that. Ha. um Ha Ha. No honestly read it or not its an important piece of literature that has shaped many lives through history. I know it's just a book so go ahead and do what you like with it.
By the way, I hope you didn't use one of those NIV study bibles. Those give rug burns when rubbed against your skin.

...How bout you let people believe what they want to believe. As long as it doesn't interfer with any aspect of there lives it doesn't matter.

I mean your life...sorry

At 4/19/04 03:23 PM, Vatcher wrote: ...How bout you let people believe what they want to believe. As long as it doesn't interfer with any aspect of there lives it doesn't matter.

I wasn't aware that I wasn't allowing people to do that. If you meant in general then yes I would agree. Of course by this logic many bad things can happen, like the legalization of coccain. Still it's not a bad argument.

What about joanavah's witnesses?(sorry I can't spell)They piss me off more then christan peopleAll of my friends hate them because they always give you pamplets at your doorsteps about the world ending and all that shit EVERYDAY.Plus their old people who are joining the religion and don't know what they're doing. I'll do anything to kill off that fucked up religion.

Listen...this is getting stupid..Were going to teach every other religion in public schools except christianity LOL<<

Now about Christians forcing religion... Trying to get someone into your religion by witnessing is not forcing.. You have to go deep..True chrisitans cannot make a moral descision without consulting religion...So its almost natural for them to say thier religion is the "one" because thier religion says so.<<

At 4/23/04 12:24 PM, xXShadsXx wrote: Listen...this is getting stupid..Were going to teach every other religion in public schools except christianity LOL<<

Now about Christians forcing religion... Trying to get someone into your religion by witnessing is not forcing.. You have to go deep..True chrisitans cannot make a moral descision without consulting religion...So its almost natural for them to say thier religion is the "one" because thier religion says so.<<

hahaha come to FSU and watch the fundamentalist go around calling everyone a sinner with their giant signs. Some Christians are just fucking assholes and go around always trying to convert, they dont do that in other religions therefore, other religions > christianity.

At 4/23/04 12:24 PM, xXShadsXx wrote: Now about Christians forcing religion... Trying to get someone into your religion by witnessing is not forcing.. You have to go deep..

I'll agree with you there. Has anyone ever seen a person witnessing for the first time? I have and that takes some courage and a faith even deeper than mine.

:True chrisitans cannot make a moral descision without consulting religion...So its almost natural for them to say thier religion is the "one" because thier religion says so.<<

This isn't necessarily true. I don't want to post my ex-minister's sermon nor do I want to bore you with specifics, but the essence is that many Christians believe that the passage about Jesus going ahead to create places in heaven for us is an indication that there is leeway. Still Jesus said noone shall come to my father except through me so that's about all the leeway most Christians give.

I, on the other hand, believe that God wants to save all his people. So why not make it easier rather than harder?

At 4/23/04 01:08 PM, FatherVenom wrote: I, on the other hand, believe that God wants to save all his people. So why not make it easier rather than harder?

Because he/she/it is an elitist-prick?

At 4/16/04 10:44 AM, i_want_to_explode wrote: Personaly i think all humans are religious. It makes us what we are.
When religion is determind as a set of activities or belief that insipre awe or reverence

I was bored, so i bothered to correct your spelling and grammar with the word 'humans' rather than 'Humand'. Boredom is a bitch isn't it?

Also, just for the sake of fighting boredom again, the dictionary definition for religion is as follows.
Religion - 1. Recognition on the part of man of a controlling superhuman power entitled to obedience, reverence, and worship.
2. The feeling or the spiritual attitude of thoe recognising such a spiritual power.
3. A point of matter of conscience, esp. when zealously or obsessively observed.

Religious - 1. embued with or exhibiting religion; pious; devout; godly.
2. scruptuously faithful; conscientious.
3. A member of a religious order, congregation, etc.; a monk, friar or nun.

BORED.

At 4/24/04 10:59 AM, ohp-kyle wrote:

Because he/she/it is an elitist-prick?

If that's what you believe than I'll give you my blessing and still disagree with you.

The definition of religion has been evolving, as many words do, especially when faced with information to the contrary. There are some religions that do not worship a deity so that definition is flawed.

i am personally an athiest.

although i understand that people find comfort in religion it is nothing but as isulsion people use to comfort themselves in the fact that they are ultimatly alone in the universe and are to weak to face death.

people use religion as something to hold onto when they feal alone.

christianisty above all is the the most corrupt religion unlike other major religions is exploits the poor by setting up churches in third world countrys and feeds of peoples misery (taking their money) with the promise that they will go to heaven after all ther suffering is over.

alsp chistianty is full of contradictions and lies. the church has never succesfully been able to keep to any of its teahcings it is on the whole a money making machine of exploitation which adapts and changes its ideals and beleives to keep up with the times

At 4/25/04 12:39 PM, apfelsafat wrote: i am personally an athiest.

You make me ashamed to be an athiest

although i understand that people find comfort in religion it is nothing but as isulsion people use to comfort themselves in the fact that they are ultimatly alone in the universe and are to weak to face death.

Nah, some people probably feel that way, others find comfort in the social connectedness, others use it as a way to understand the confusing universe around them.

christianisty above all is the the most corrupt religion unlike other major religions is exploits the poor by setting up churches in third world countrys and feeds of peoples misery (taking their money) with the promise that they will go to heaven after all ther suffering is over.

I think you've been misinformed, my impression of christian churches in third world nations has been a little different. The priest, often one of the more educated people in the tribe (probably one of the few literate ones) is more than some guy who promises eternal salvation after death for Ca$h. The priest is probably the one that people go to when they have problems, moral or not. I don't think that they are exploiting anyone in most cases. (Don't expect me to defend televangelists though)

alsp chistianty is full of contradictions and lies. the church has never succesfully been able to keep to any of its teahcings it is on the whole a money making machine of exploitation which adapts and changes its ideals and beleives to keep up with the times

Most athiests are full of contradictions and lies, Athiesm is mostly a fashion statement these days, I really hate when my fundamental beliefs become a fad.

Well, let me put my opinion this way. Isn't everyone atheist until the word of "god" is forced down their throat?

Non-atheism is unfounded. Period.

At 4/25/04 07:39 PM, Tyrant_Doomhammer wrote: Well, let me put my opinion this way. Isn't everyone atheist until the word of "god" is forced down their throat?

Non-atheism is unfounded. Period.

Not at all. As I said in a different post if people didn't have religion they would make it up. And I for one did not have the word of God forced on me. My church is very open about making sure those who confirm their baptism think that they are doing the right thing. Our ministers have always couseled that we go out and find what we believe in and follow that. Heck, my brother was encouraged to follow Budhism as the minister at the time knew us very well and felt my brother wouldn't fit with our religion. Of course this is not always the case, but I'm willing to bet my church isn't an anomaly.