the us lunar landing

[shotheman]

well i think it didnt happen i mean look at it, the muthafuckin flag is moving for god sakes,no air no wind no gravity on the moon, jeesh i just wanted to get that out of the way, what do you guys think?

[RedSkunk]

At 2/12/04 11:10 AM, shotheman wrote: well i think it didnt happen i mean look at it, the muthafuckin flag is moving for god sakes,no air no wind no gravity on the moon, jeesh i just wanted to get that out of the way, what do you guys think?

I think it did happen, but it's a moot point by now, because they've done it since then.

[smurvey]

It happened.

And yes there is gravity on the moon, just not as much as earth. If there wasn't the astronauts would have floated away the second they went outside. Therefore, gravity could be (and i'm pretty sure is) the reason the flag moves.

[Proteas]

"Three can keep a secret if two are dead" -- G. Gordon Liddy

If the Lunar Landing was a hoax, it would have been pretty difficult for the Government to keep all the people in NASA quiet for all these years, don't you think?

[jojoshabadoo]

first of all wind makes a flag move gravity would make it stop. the first shuttle blow up. buzz and others were ringers. with legal problems easy to control. too many shadows for only one sun. the moon rocks are the same as the ones found i desert areas. oh yeah and the russian astranuts never tryed for the moon the because of the radiation passed the shield WOULD KILL US!

[bumcheekcity]

At 2/12/04 03:53 PM, jojoshabadoo wrote: first of all wind makes a flag move gravity would make it stop. the first shuttle blow up. buzz and others were ringers. with legal problems easy to control. too many shadows for only one sun. the moon rocks are the same as the ones found i desert areas. oh yeah and the russian astranuts never tryed for the moon the because of the radiation passed the shield WOULD KILL US!

Are you arguing saying it WAS a hoax, or wasn't. Oh yes, and please remember, Correct punctuation is a wonderful thing.

[Thanatopsis]

At 2/12/04 11:10 AM, shotheman wrote: well i think it didnt happen i mean look at it, the muthafuckin flag is moving for god sakes,no air no wind no gravity on the moon, jeesh i just wanted to get that out of the way, what do you guys think?

ok on the issue of the flag staying up its simple NASA has even stated this before, they used a metal wire on the top of the flag to keep it up.

[Thanatopsis]

At 2/12/04 03:53 PM, jojoshabadoo wrote: the moon rocks are the same as the ones found i desert areas.

ok so you have access to the lunar rocks and you did chemical and atomic brake down tests to determin they are the same. just because something looks similar to something else doesnt make it the same.

oh yeah and the russian astranuts never tryed for the moon the because of the radiation passed the shield WOULD KILL US!

ok you do realize that even though the landers metal lining was thin it was specificly made to deflect radiation?
and the space suits weigh around 100 pounds or atleast the last thing i read from nasa, so is it so hard to beleive that they (NASA) could have figured some way to put adiquit protection against radiation in the suits like i dont know lead lining or the same material that was used to keep the radiation out of the lunar lander.

and the russians didnt do it because as they kept making larger and larger rockets they (the rockets) kept exploading, the Russians even for there time were using basic technology to acomplish something very dificult to do. the Russians stratagy was to use the largest rocket possable to launch people in to space, not the best fuel combinations or to make the shutle as eficent to launch as possable.

and my info for the russian space program comes from interviews between the history chanel and russian scientists that were incharge of the space program and historians who studied the russian space program.

[mentalis]

At 2/12/04 03:53 PM, jojoshabadoo wrote: first of all wind makes a flag move gravity would make it stop. the first shuttle blow up. buzz and others were ringers. with legal problems easy to control. too many shadows for only one sun. the moon rocks are the same as the ones found i desert areas. oh yeah and the russian astranuts never tryed for the moon the because of the radiation passed the shield WOULD KILL US!

First of all, the flag moved when they were turning the flag when it was being put in the ground. Second, the sun wasn't the only light source. The light they brought and the Earth give off light. Third, it is theorized that the moon is made from the Earth when a massive collision occured a over a couple billion years ago. Hence the similar makeup of the rocks. Last, the radiation is only dangerous after long exposure times.

[shotheman]

1. there is no wind on the moon-period- check it out for yourself, it had to be a hoax and theres alot of other people with more shit but i dont what the other shit to back it up was becuz i fell asleep halfway through the show.... lol

[shotheman]

o and btw how could you tell they were real space suits?

[bumcheekcity]

At 2/13/04 02:09 PM, shotheman wrote: o and btw how could you tell they were real space suits?

The whole moon landing was a film made out of plastercine and tin foil. Happy now?

[TheShrike]

At 2/13/04 02:09 PM, shotheman wrote: o and btw how could you tell they were real space suits?

o and btw how could you tell they were fake space suits?

Well? I am waiting, wise one.

[bumcheekcity]

At 2/13/04 03:18 PM, TheShrike wrote: o and btw how could you tell they were fake space suits?

He never said they were, in fairness...

[JudgeDredd]

personally, i'm more interested in whether the lunar lander had some kinda automatic weight distribution actuaters controlling it's thruster jets?

I mean this was 35 years ago, long before real-time processing. Low gravity or not, that was a mighty heavy lander module fully laden, and just because objects move more slowly doesn't mean they don't have the same kinetic mass.

If it was a hoax, the US admin should've come clean at the end of the cold war (within a 25 year time frame) ..either way, we'll know the answer for sure sometime this decade.

[smurvey]

At 2/13/04 02:07 PM, shotheman wrote: 1. there is no wind on the moon-period- check it out for yourself, it had to be a hoax and theres alot of other people with more shit but i dont what the other shit to back it up was becuz i fell asleep halfway through the show.... lol

You don't need wind to make a flag wobble a little. The moon has gravity which was pulling the flag toward its center. Unless the astronauts held the flag perfectly straight, it only makes sense that the flag move slightly from side to side as gravity pulls at it from different angles as the astronauts handle it.

[FUNKbrs]

I think we went to the moon... However, it was only to scare the Russians with how big our missiles were. We landed ON THE DARK SIDE OF THE MOON, BECAUSE THE UNBLOCKED LIGHT OF THE SUN WOULD HAVE FRIED US. That's why there were multiple light sources; all the lights were artificial. And the flag is WRINKLED, NOT MOVING.

<idiot> Well why haven't we gone back, then?</idiot>

Because there was a HUGE backlash to the expense of the space race, during a time of racial and military turmoil. The poem "Whitey on the Moon "

[Commander-K25]

The flags were extended into a "flying" position with metal wires built into them. Otherwise, they would just hang limply at the pole, (no wind on the moon), and that doesn't make for a good photo-op.

[Proteas]

What difference does it make wether we went or not anyway?

[FUNKbrs]

At 2/14/04 03:38 PM, Proteas wrote: What difference does it make wether we went or not anyway?

It's a HUGE fucking scandal if we didn't go. If the government lied about that, who knows what else they lied about? Would you want a principal that told you he went to the moon when he didn't to school YOUR children?

[bumcheekcity]

To be honest, I really wouldn'tn care if the Americans had been ot the moon or not. I wouldn't give a monkeys either way. I think they did though.

[TheShrike]

At 2/13/04 03:26 PM, bumcheekcity wrote: He never said they were, in fairness...

Don't fight for him. I want answers, damnit.

I saw a tv show a couple of years back that detailed all the sides of this conspiracy theory, and I still believe we went afterwards. That sort of thing tends to happen when you have a good source of information.

[TheShrike]

At 2/12/04 03:53 PM, jojoshabadoo wrote: first of all wind makes a flag move gravity would make it stop.

No, gravity would make it move.

the first shuttle blow up.

Don't you mean rocket? Yes, there was an accident on the ground involving the original apollo mission, but that's well known. They weren't even going to go to the moon during that mission. The Apollo 1 crew was Roger Chaffee, Gus Grissom, and Edward White. They died in a fire while testing the command capsule.

2 words: Oxygen, Spark

boom. sad, really. They never used that test pad again, out of respect.

buzz and others were ringers. with legal problems easy to control.

Yeah, right.

too many shadows for only one sun. the moon rocks are the same as the ones found i desert areas.

Light tricks. There's a mountain on Mars that looks like a face in the right light with a lil blur.

And... *GASP*

The rest of the universe is made of the same stuff as earth! OMG!

Some of our rocks come from space. They're called meteorites. Also known as 'falling stars'. They look life typical rocks, too.

oh yeah and the russian astranuts never tryed for the moon the because of the radiation passed the shield WOULD KILL US!

They didn't go in a tin can, they went in a heavily sheilded capsule. And a lot of astronauts have died from cancer. fun fact.

[Jimsween]

The only thing that gets me is the lack of a crater where the lander landed.

Can someone please explain to me why Buzz Aldrin's shadow is way more longer than Neal Armstrong's?

[Jimsween]

At 2/15/04 02:30 AM, punk_hippy wrote: Can someone please explain to me why Buzz Aldrin's shadow is way more longer than Neal Armstrong's?

Well thats easy, they landed on the dark side of the moon so all the lights you saw were artificial.

At 2/15/04 11:55 AM, Jimsween wrote: Well thats easy, they landed on the dark side of the moon so all the lights you saw were artificial.

More moon pictures.

[bumcheekcity]

At 2/15/04 02:30 PM, punk_hippy wrote: More moon pictures.

All to do with shadows eh?

[ReddSky]

I think it should be obvious that it was fake, but im not going to say im 100% right or anything.

America was desperate to beat the Russians, the americans either just couldent do it or the russians were ahead.

If theres different shadows, you cant just pass them off as 'vision tricks' like the mars face, you may as well call them 'jedi mind tricks' or 'magic'. The face on mars was an illusion that looks like a face from one angle and a lion from another, from what I know its not magic changing shadows.

I saw a movie somewhere, an 'outake', neil armstrong is setting foot, about to finish his 'one step for man' speech and some scaffold with lights mounted on it falls from the sky, neil armstrongs like "shit, are we going to do this AGAIN?". It looked pretty convincing. Theres no wind on the moon, gravity is not like wind. They are completley different. Gravity is a force that pulls all things down, wind is moving air.

If there is no atmosphere and little gravity the flag will completley droop down.

If it is fake, no big deal, the usa is carrying on much larger and damaging lies today.

[Jimsween]

At 2/15/04 02:30 PM, punk_hippy wrote:

At 2/15/04 11:55 AM, Jimsween wrote: Well thats easy, they landed on the dark side of the moon so all the lights you saw were artificial.

More moon pictures.

Oh dear god... it's almost as if they had some sort of machine... that.... produced light....

No, thats not possible, your right, it must be a conspiracy.