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killkhan

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Posted at: 8/27/09 04:21 PM

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Hey everyone. So I just wanted to see whos out there that composes classical music or film soundtracks. I always thought it was the most fun to write and it's my favorite.

Any else out there?


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At 8/27/09 04:21 PM, killkhan wrote: Hey everyone. So I just wanted to see whos out there that composes classical music or film soundtracks. I always thought it was the most fun to write and it's my favorite.

Any else out there?

A look in the Classical Music section would do you good.

Let's see... other than me:

DavidOrr
BlackAttackBitch
zero123music

Off the top of my head that is. There are plenty others though.


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Check out my submissions - Toccata and Justice day. I love classical music and lot of people tell me that I should compose to a movie or game. I would like to try it :) Enjoy my pieces. :D

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Denny Schneidemesser is a genius.

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At 8/27/09 08:00 PM, Blackhole12 wrote: Denny Schneidemesser is a genius.

ah yes,

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I'm getting into film music. Of course, I'm not posting any of it on NewGrounds due to the complete lack of copyright protection I'd have (Creative Commons is NOT copyright).

Fave film composers? Giacchino, Newman, Elfman.


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I like to consider myself a classical composer. But i like to compose many things other than just Classical.

Hania is a great composer, as well as David Orr, Danman87, and Nathan.


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The 'classical' music posted on NewGrounds, unless it is a remake of an actual classical work, is not actually classical. It's called Neo-Classical. (Classical music ended in 1750, with the death of Bach. Therefore, anything composed after 1750 in the classical style is actually neo-classical.)

You have to be really careful about that, because music historians will tend to get really pissed off if you call yourself a 'classical composer.' That's why I'm meticulous to make sure that the 'genre' of all of my classical tracks are, when burned to CD or iPod etc, put under 'Neo-Classical.'

Film music can be any genre, which is one thing that's so brilliant - and at the same time, so exasperating - about it. Classical is only a tiny part of it, especially when you consider a lot of percussion (obviously, not talking about timpani, bass drums, and snares, since those were used used in classical music).

My style, when I'm working in the minor mode, has developed so that it often has an almost Mediterranean feel to it. That's great for me and my symphony (which sets me apart from other symphonies), but will that many directors want a Mediterranean flavour? Not unless it's set on an island or a boat.

Oh well...

TL;DR SUMMARY:
- Classical-style music written post-1750 is called "Neo-Classical"
- Film music comprises many different styles, even in the same piece
- My unique style in minor often has a Mediterranean feel


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At 8/27/09 10:02 PM, ChemicalReaper wrote: The 'classical' music posted on NewGrounds, unless it is a remake of an actual classical work, is not actually classical. It's called Neo-Classical. (Classical music ended in 1750, with the death of Bach. Therefore, anything composed after 1750 in the classical style is actually neo-classical.)

I think you mean "contemporary classical", neo-classical refers to a particular movement in the 20th century that used what was then contemporary harmonic vocabulary but in forms derived from and inspired by Classical era forms. Also, Bach's death signified the end of the high Baroque, not Classical, style.


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At 8/28/09 12:07 AM, Simon-F wrote: I think you mean "contemporary classical", neo-classical refers to a particular movement in the 20th century that used what was then contemporary harmonic vocabulary but in forms derived from and inspired by Classical era forms. Also, Bach's death signified the end of the high Baroque, not Classical, style.

Who fucking cares anyway? Clearly NewGrounds doesn't with it's pathetic categorization: "Rock" "Electronic" "Classical" "Video Game" "Other".

Besides, us classicists always get 0-bombed more than everyone else... trying to write a track that pleases both classical-lovers and these newfangled techno bastards has absolutely fried my brain and so I must apologize - I can't remember a thing that I learned in "Survey of Western Music" last year...


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Who fucking cares anyway? Clearly NewGrounds doesn't with it's pathetic categorization: "Rock" "Electronic" "Classical" "Video Game" "Other".

Besides, us classicists always get 0-bombed more than everyone else... trying to write a track that pleases both classical-lovers and these newfangled techno bastards has absolutely fried my brain and so I must apologize - I can't remember a thing that I learned in "Survey of Western Music" last year...

Whoa dude, was any of that necessary? It seemed like you just released a random spur of rage into your keyboard there.


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At 8/28/09 01:36 AM, btriangle wrote: Whoa dude, was any of that necessary? It seemed like you just released a random spur of rage into your keyboard there.

I'm writing my Dies Irae. So yes, it was necessary. I need lots of things to really piss me off so my Dies Irae movement will basically be pure rage when you listen to it.


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At 8/28/09 02:27 AM, ChemicalReaper wrote: pure rage

More like pure shit, amirite?

just trying to inspire you mate ;)

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I am more into gamestuffies but people often tell me that it would be great in a movie... owell, that is their opinion... you decide...

example...


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At 8/27/09 10:02 PM, ChemicalReaper wrote: The 'classical' music posted on NewGrounds, unless it is a remake of an actual classical work, is not actually classical. It's called Neo-Classical. (Classical music ended in 1750, with the death of Bach. Therefore, anything composed after 1750 in the classical style is actually neo-classical.)

You have to be really careful about that, because music historians will tend to get really pissed off if you call yourself a 'classical composer.' That's why I'm meticulous to make sure that the 'genre' of all of my classical tracks are, when burned to CD or iPod etc, put under 'Neo-Classical.'

Film music can be any genre, which is one thing that's so brilliant - and at the same time, so exasperating - about it. Classical is only a tiny part of it, especially when you consider a lot of percussion (obviously, not talking about timpani, bass drums, and snares, since those were used used in classical music).

My style, when I'm working in the minor mode, has developed so that it often has an almost Mediterranean feel to it. That's great for me and my symphony (which sets me apart from other symphonies), but will that many directors want a Mediterranean flavour? Not unless it's set on an island or a boat.

Oh well...

TL;DR SUMMARY:
- Classical-style music written post-1750 is called "Neo-Classical"
- Film music comprises many different styles, even in the same piece
- My unique style in minor often has a Mediterranean feel

As could be expected, you seem to have little clue what you're talking about. Again. You're correct that the classical era ended, but it had nothing to do with the death of Bach. Bach was not a classical composer, he was a Baroque composer. Neither was everythig after that "neo-classical". The rest of music history is divided into important movements. Romanticism followed classicism, then slowly developed into many different forms of Modernism.

Also, in reference to minor modes. Would you care to explain what you were thinking when you said a B minor scale started on B-flat?


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I wouldn't call my self a classical composer. Classical to me has always had a particular sound, and although I appreciate it. I was never into really into it.

I'm striving for more a Cinematic Blockbuster sound. A more modern approach to the sound of scoring for a film. I'm not a pro though, I only do it for a bit of fun. So it's all good! =)


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At 8/28/09 01:12 AM, ChemicalReaper wrote: Who fucking cares anyway? Clearly NewGrounds doesn't with it's pathetic categorization: "Rock" "Electronic" "Classical" "Video Game" "Other".

To put things in perspective, what I did to your post was no different than what you did to the thread, so consider the hypocrisy of responding angrily just because your post contained incorrect information. If you're going to split hairs about the definition of classical at NG (and I'm not sure why you would, since clearly you feel that "NewGrounds doesn't fucking care" anyway) then maybe you should've taken a few more notes in your Survey class.


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At 8/28/09 09:22 AM, Simon-F wrote:
At 8/28/09 01:12 AM, ChemicalReaper wrote: Who fucking cares anyway? Clearly NewGrounds doesn't with it's pathetic categorization: "Rock" "Electronic" "Classical" "Video Game" "Other".
To put things in perspective, what I did to your post was no different than what you did to the thread

That was my exact thought.
You "corrected" someone and was corrected, then you rage.
That seems mature.


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At 8/28/09 02:06 PM, Arbiter wrote: You "corrected" someone and was corrected, then you rage.
That seems mature.

Way to NOT read the entire fucking thread, jackhole.


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I've heard someone mentioning Bach, did I ? So, which one ?

Veit Bach (about 1550-1619)
Johann(es) "Hans" Bach I (%u2020 1626) (son of Veit Bach)
Johann(es) "Hans" Bach III (1604-1673) - the so-called Erfurt Line
Johann Christian Bach I (1640-1682)
Johann Jacob Bach II (1668-1692)
Johann Christoph Bach IV (1673-1727)
Johann Samuel Bach (1694-1720)
Johann Christian Bach II (1696-)
Johann Günther Bach II (1703-1756)
Johann Aegidius Bach I (1645-1716)
Johann Balthasar Bach (1673-1691)
Johann Bernhard Bach I (1676-1749)
Johann Ernst Bach II (1722-1777)
Johann Georg Bach I (1751-1797)
Johann Christoph Bach VI (1685-1740)
Johann Friedrich Bach II (1706-1743)
Johann Aegidius Bach II (1709-1746)
Johann Nicolaus Bach I (1653-1682)
Christoph Bach (1613-1661)
Georg Christoph Bach (1642-1697)
Johann Valentin Bach (1669-1720)
Johann Lorenz Bach (1695-1773)
Johann Elias Bach (1705-1755)
Johann Michael Bach III (1745-1820) (?)
Johann Georg Bach II (1786-1874)
Georg Friedrich Bach (1792-1860)
Johann Christoph Bach II (1645-1693)
Johann Ernst Bach I (1683-1739)
Johann Christoph Bach VII (1689-1740)
Johann Ambrosius Bach (1645-1695)
Johann Christoph Bach III (1671-1721)
Johann Andreas Bach (1713-1779)
Johann Christoph Georg Bach (1747-1814)
Johann Bernhard Bach II (1700-1743)
Johann Christoph Bach VIII (1702-1756)
Ernst Carl Gottfried Bach (1738-1801)
Ernst Christian Bach (1747-1822)
Philipp Christiann Georg Bach (1734-1809)
Johann Jacob Bach III (1682-1722)
Johann Sebastian Bach (1685-1750) - wed in his first marriage to second cousin Maria Barbara Bach (1684-1720); in second marriage 1721 with Anna Magdalena Wilcke (1701-1760)
Catharina Dorothea Bach (1708-1774)
Wilhelm Friedemann Bach (1710-1784) - the so-called "Dresden Bach" or "Halle Bach"
Carl Philipp Emanuel Bach (1714-1788) - the so-called "Hamburger Bach" or "Berlin Bach"
Johann Sebastian Bach (1748-1778), painter
Johann Gottfried Bernhard Bach (1715-1739)
Gottfried Heinrich Bach (1724-1763)
Johann Christoph Friedrich Bach (1732-1795) - the so-called "Bückeburg Bach"
Wilhelm Friedrich Ernst Bach (1759-1845)
Johann Christian Bach III (1735-1782) - the so-called "Mailänd Bach" or "London Bach"
Heinrich Bach I (1615-1692) - the so-called Arnstädt Line
Johann Christoph Bach I (1642-1703)
Johann Nikolaus Bach II (1669-1753)
Johann Christoph Bach V (1676-)
Johann Heinrich Bach II (1709-)
Johann Friedrich Bach I (1682-1730)
Johann Michael Bach II (1685-)
Johann Michael Bach I (1648-1694)
Maria Barbara Bach (1684-1720) - married Johann Sebastian Bach (1685-1750)
Johann Günther Bach I (1653-1683)
Philippus "Lips" Bach (1590-1620), son of Veit Bach
Wendel Bach (1619-1682)
Johann Jacob Bach I (1655-1718)
Nicolaus Ephraim Bach (1690-1760)
Georg Michael Bach (1703-1771)
Johann Christian Bach IV (1743-1814)
Johann Ludwig Bach (1677-1731) - the so-called "Meininger Bach", composer
Gottlieb Friedrich Bach (1714-1785) - court organist, court painter Meinigen
Johann Philipp Bach (1752-1846) - musician, painter
Samuel Anton Bach (1713-1781)
Johann Bach IV (1621-1686), nephew of Lips Bach
Johann Stephan Bach (1665-1717)
Caspar Bach I (1570-1640) (brother of Veit Bach???)
Caspar Bach II (1600-)
Heinrich "Blinder Jonas" Bach (-1635)
Johann(es) Bach II (1612-1632)
Melchior Bach (1603-1634)
Nicolaus Bach (1619-1637)


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At 8/27/09 06:12 PM, HalcyonicFalconX wrote:
At 8/27/09 04:21 PM, killkhan wrote: Hey everyone. So I just wanted to see whos out there that composes classical music or film soundtracks. I always thought it was the most fun to write and it's my favorite.

Any else out there?
A look in the Classical Music section would do you good.

Let's see... other than me:

DavidOrr
BlackAttackBitch
zero123music

Off the top of my head that is. There are plenty others though.

Thanks for the shoutout!

Not used to being mentioned in threads prior to actually posting in them lol, I never know how to respond when that happens hahahaha

Didn't someone make a thread just like this one a while ago?

Anyways, lemme just make a list of all the filmscore/orchestral/classical composers on this site that I can recall. Although some of the names I'm gonna list don't necessarily focus on this genre, they have done pieces that fit into this genre.

Gravey1
MH16 (rarely, he mainly does his own thing)
Zero123music
HalcyonicFalconX (is that redundant to reply to his post then name him in the list anyway?)
Maestrorage
Danman87 (probably the best out of all of us, I doubt anyone would argue too much against this assertion)
Basbalfan55
NickPerrin
NathanAllenPinard

God I know I'm forgetting some people, and it's really killing me right now. Hold on.....

Masterjiji
ParadoxPhenomena (how the hell did I forget him, without him I probably wouldn't be where I am today, honestly.)
Brokendeck
Blacknote
Fuoco
Fuiste

I have the distinct feeling that I probably confused the two names above with each other, so I'm listing them both just to be safe.

Sorohanro (also rare, but definitely a great artist in general)
Mjattie (did I spell that right?)
MilkManDan (clenastro earned him this spot, at least imo)
Dude09
SilenceFreedom
Blackattackbitch (oh wait......)

Well, I think I've exhausted every name I can possibly recall at this time. But if I were you, I'd peek around the classical section of the AP and just see for yourself who composes what.

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Sorry for the double post, just want to clarify something.

Even though I said Clenastro earned MMD a spot on my list, in no way does that imply that I think of him as a subpar composer, or even that I was judging his musical ability. In reality, he's one of the best musicians I've heard on Newgrounds so far.

At 8/28/09 06:29 PM, sorohanro wrote: So which one?

lol wut

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Newgrounds needs a new genresection: Soundtracks!
Thanks Zero. :D


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I write for soundtracks (games and movies). Check out my site and submissions if you're interested...

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At 8/27/09 10:02 PM, ChemicalReaper wrote: The 'classical' music posted on NewGrounds, unless it is a remake of an actual classical work, is not actually classical. It's called Neo-Classical. (Classical music ended in 1750, with the death of Bach. Therefore, anything composed after 1750 in the classical style is actually neo-classical.)

Not trying to be a dick here, "Neo Classical" is a really specific musical movement of the 1920's as a reaction against "modernism". I've heard the "John Williams Movie Style" described as "Neo Romantic" but I'm not sure that that's legit. I think "Contemporary Classical" might be the term you are looking for.

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I think the word we are all searching for is "symphonic."


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At 8/29/09 12:28 PM, jrayteam6 wrote: I think the word we are all searching for is "symphonic."

Symphonic can be everything:

Symphonic Metal
Symphonic Schnetal
Symphonic Detal

It's not a style at all but a choosing of the instruments.


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I think "Symphonic" is a bit broad...

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I don't see why people are so picky about the genres. It is just a word used to help categorize similar things. So what if you happen to get a classical song that isn't your standard progression and I IV V ending. Newgrounds has many great composers hidden under all the other songs just got to look through the vast amounts of submissions for the gems.

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At 8/28/09 07:16 PM, blackattackbitch wrote:
At 8/27/09 06:12 PM, HalcyonicFalconX wrote:
At 8/27/09 04:21 PM, killkhan wrote: Hey everyone. So I just wanted to see whos out there that composes classical music or film soundtracks. I always thought it was the most fun to write and it's my favorite.

Any else out there?
A look in the Classical Music section would do you good.

Let's see... other than me:

DavidOrr
BlackAttackBitch
zero123music

Off the top of my head that is. There are plenty others though.
Thanks for the shoutout!

Not used to being mentioned in threads prior to actually posting in them lol, I never know how to respond when that happens hahahaha
Didn't someone make a thread just like this one a while ago?

Anyways, lemme just make a list of all the filmscore/orchestral/classical composers on this site that I can recall. Although some of the names I'm gonna list don't necessarily focus on this genre, they have done pieces that fit into this genre.

Gravey1

Holy crap! I MADE THE LIST!!!! :-D

MH16 (rarely, he mainly does his own thing)

A very good thing mind you though. :-P

Zero123music
HalcyonicFalconX (is that redundant to reply to his post then name him in the list anyway?)

Not at all!!!

Maestrorage

Sadly, he posts no more.

Danman87 (probably the best out of all of us, I doubt anyone would argue too much against this assertion)

Agreed. But then again there is Edgen. (Hope I spelled that right.)

Basbalfan55
NickPerrin
NathanAllenPinard

God I know I'm forgetting some people, and it's really killing me right now. Hold on.....

Masterjiji

Most underated on this entire list as far as I'm concerned. :-)

ParadoxPhenomena (how the hell did I forget him, without him I probably wouldn't be where I am today, honestly.)
Brokendeck
Blacknote
Fuoco
Fuiste
I have the distinct feeling that I probably confused the two names above with each other, so I'm listing them both just to be safe.
Sorohanro (also rare, but definitely a great artist in general)
Mjattie (did I spell that right?)
MilkManDan (clenastro earned him this spot, at least imo)
Dude09
SilenceFreedom
Blackattackbitch (oh wait......)

Not gonna lie, this guy above me sounds familiar. Not quite sure who he is though. *Scratches head* :-P


Well, I think I've exhausted every name I can possibly recall at this time. But if I were you, I'd peek around the classical section of the AP and just see for yourself who composes what.

Nawwww shucks! I'm honored you would mention me in the same list as those mentioned above. But in all honesty, BlackAttackBitch's list is pretty good. Those are some of the top and even mid level composers who post in the classical/soundtrack styles.

Although MaestroRage deleted all of his music. Me thinks he got a professional deal done or something like that. So yea, not that he deserves to be dropped from the list, I don't mean that at all. But ya can't hear his stuff unless you find it in a game/movie or pay for it. :-P

One person I feel needs to be mentioned that wasn't is TestSubjectA. God his music is so unique, yet many of his songs would fit the style you say you enjoy/are looking for. He just got a professional deal as well though, so he doesn't post that often on here anymore. But all the same, he will have something you like I'm sure.

-Gravey-

P.S. - Click my Chronicles linky below for an example of my "classical/soundtrack" style.


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