Does Nasa Serve A Purpose?

[AJ]

That shuttle launch thread got me curious. What is the use of sending people into space? Make everyone involved in it feel good about themselves? Is there really an ultimate goal out of spending TAX DOLLARS on rockets to send people into outer space? I think it's a waste of our time and money, as it accomplishes absolutely nothing other than making America feel like it has a bigger penis than Russia. (oh wait, the cold war is over) I think the country should spend money on more useful things, like Corvettes for everyone in my apartment complex. That way we can rub it in the faces of the apartment complex across the street.

[SashaSexyFur]

At 8/25/09 06:36 PM, michelinman wrote: I think the country should spend money on more useful things, like Corvettes for everyone in my apartment complex. That way we can rub it in the faces of the apartment complex across the street.

First off, leave Mr. deeds already did that.

Second. Don't you want people to be able to live on a new planet in a new galaxy some day?

[STEM]

Can't live on the Earth forever

[AnonymousAlchemist]

So space exploration, possibly finding alien life, and developing military uses for space isn't "purpose" enough for you?

[ReverendMayhem]

Meh why not. The U.S has money to burn and very little common sense. It's a pretty dangerous mix when you look at it

[MultiCanimefan]

NASA is at the forefront of space exploration technology and it's money well spent. The future of the human race is in space and on other planets. We send people and shuttles into space for data collection. It's imperative that we gather as much information as we can so we can advance into space at a faster rate.

[yellowklayman]

when mankind destroys earth there will always be more planets to destroy

[AJ]

At 8/25/09 06:39 PM, AnonymousAlchemist wrote: So space exploration

Don't care about going there when we can see all the shit just fine with the hubble.

possibly finding alien life

If we ever find any sort of alien life, we'll know about it long before we actually meet it. It's not like they're going to "stumble" across it while floating in earths well documented orbit.

and developing military uses for space isn't "purpose" enough for you?

This isn't Halo. Any type of military use that can be done in space can be done without people in it. Missiles, Satellite Imagery, you name it.

[Heretic-Anchorite]

It's nuts funding Columbus's search for the northern passage, he'll just fall of the earth.

All that New world stuff is all BS started by some vikings.

[Snake-Arsenic]

You're also spending money on research, and NASA is pretty strong in that area as well as giving joyrides.

[ARGNAGRAM]

It's pointless to send someone off for 4 years just so they can say that man has achieved to set foot on mars (which is a risk cause he'll probably suicide)
My point is that the time will come, and what we should do now is send robots, which can perfectly do the same job as humans, at least in mars...

[Bigbaddragon]

Lol u guys and space exploration. We will be LONG gone before anyone invents being able to travel to other planets at reasonable time.

[BananaBreadMuffin]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Research

[Ptcfast]

At 8/25/09 06:49 PM, Bigbaddragon wrote: Lol u guys and space exploration. We will be LONG gone before anyone invents being able to travel to other planets at reasonable time.

Can't we just use a time machine, go to a time where space travel is practical, and use for the benefit of the MOTHERLAND?!

[AJ]

At 8/25/09 06:50 PM, BananaBreadMuffin wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Research

And? I don't care about what moon dust is composed of, and if there are some people out there that desperately care, it's far cheaper, easier, and overall much more efficent to just send a robot. Who cares what moon dust is composed of? Seriously. It's so expensive to deal with shit like that.

[Ptcfast]

At 8/25/09 06:56 PM, michelinman wrote: And? I don't care about what moon dust is composed of, and if there are some people out there that desperately care, it's far cheaper, easier, and overall much more efficent to just send a robot. Who cares what moon dust is composed of? Seriously. It's so expensive to deal with shit like that.

You only care about when applies to your life with no true conception of the needs of others... This Earth is to small to handle out population in the coming times. We need to expand and colonize this solar system if the human race needs to continue. Someone needs to do this, why the fuck shouldn't it be NASA?

[McPaper]

NASA does stuff other than space exploration. Most likely to do with air travel and various earthly researches.

However many people see NASA as the forefront of human advancement. People believe that one day man will have to live on other planets or orbital bodies. That may be true.

However, nobody in this thread will ever travel to space or see the true fruits of this expensive endeavour. Hope that makes you feel better.

[Snake-Arsenic]

At 8/25/09 06:56 PM, michelinman wrote:

At 8/25/09 06:50 PM, BananaBreadMuffin wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Research

And? I don't care about what moon dust is composed of, and if there are some people out there that desperately care, it's far cheaper, easier, and overall much more efficent to just send a robot. Who cares what moon dust is composed of? Seriously. It's so expensive to deal with shit like that.

These products were developed using space research. You might not care about moon dust but I hope you care about what the Apollo program also led to.

[sparrow]

At 8/25/09 06:56 PM, michelinman wrote:

And? I don't care about what moon dust is composed of, and if there are some people out there that desperately care, it's far cheaper, easier, and overall much more efficent to just send a robot. Who cares what moon dust is composed of? Seriously. It's so expensive to deal with shit like that.

Your attitude stinks.

[AJ]

At 8/25/09 06:59 PM, Ptcfast wrote: You only care about when applies to your life with no true conception of the needs of others...

That must be why I don't believe in global warming too. :/

This Earth is to small to handle out population in the coming times. We need to expand and colonize this solar system if the human race needs to continue.

And sending people into orbit around our orbit that we know plenty about is going to help this how?

Someone needs to do this, why the fuck shouldn't it be NASA?

Sending people into an orbit where they never come out of their ship other than to float around in space and go nowhere near any type of land, let alone anything habitable is NOT equal to finding ways to support life outside of earth, unless they're planning on building a shitload of massive ships that we can all fly around in for the rest of time. If they want to colonize the moon, mars, etc, the way to do it is by sending robots and eventually people to these places and gathering information about the places, which we already have a shitload of, thanks to ROBOTS. Sending people on joyrides around the orbit does nothing to accomplish this. I wouldn't mind if it wasn't so fucking expensive.

[HighWay]

Yes NASA has a purpose. NASA has to penetrate Uranus.

[Ptcfast]

At 8/25/09 07:07 PM, michelinman wrote: looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooong

will colonize the moon, THE FUCKING MOON... If you can't understand the substantial benefits then you are just an ignorant troll pissing people off.

[AJ]

At 8/25/09 07:10 PM, Ptcfast wrote:

At 8/25/09 07:07 PM, michelinman wrote: looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooong

will colonize the moon, THE FUCKING MOON... If you can't understand the substantial benefits then you are just an ignorant troll pissing people off.

By quoting me as looooooooooooooo ooooong, by misspelling we'll, and showing a complete disregard for the fact that I covered colonizing the moon, it makes it pretty obvious to me that you A. Are a dumbass, and B. You didn't read my post.

[Holonboy]

At 8/25/09 06:39 PM, SashaSexyFur wrote:

At 8/25/09 06:36 PM, michelinman wrote: I think the country should spend money on more useful things, like Corvettes for everyone in my apartment complex. That way we can rub it in the faces of the apartment complex across the street.

First off, leave Mr. deeds already did that.

Second. Don't you want people to be able to live on a new planet in a new galaxy some day?

We want to live on another planet someday but that someday might take forever. First of all, we need to make better technology. Like an natural air maker that uses a ton of flowers. Instead, we're using money to send more people into the moon. Soon, we will be shooting them into the sun!

[Ptcfast]

At 8/25/09 07:12 PM, michelinman wrote: looooooooooooooo ooooong

Are you happy that i actually quoted something you said?! Anyway, lets make a compromise, since you saw Wall-E two hours ago and feel that robots are the cure for everything; lets send Stephen Hawkings into space. Since Stephen Hawkings is part robot and human, we both win :D

[Armissea]

I think nasa serves a big purpose actually. If it wasnt for them america wouldnt be responsible for discovering anything. But apart from american achievement bragging rights there is still a chance things would have not been found.

[Snake-Arsenic]

At 8/25/09 07:07 PM, michelinman wrote: Sending people into an orbit where they never come out of their ship other than to float around in space and go nowhere near any type of land, let alone anything habitable is NOT equal to finding ways to support life outside of earth, unless they're planning on building a shitload of massive ships that we can all fly around in for the rest of time.

Where do you think the humans will be on these long journeys, and what will keep them alive for the months or years at a time it takes to get to their destination?

If they want to colonize the moon, mars, etc, the way to do it is by sending robots and eventually people to these places and gathering information about the places, which we already have a shitload of, thanks to ROBOTS. Sending people on joyrides around the orbit does nothing to accomplish this. I wouldn't mind if it wasn't so fucking expensive.

In order to colonise they will have to make a survivable way to live, especially on the trips there and back. Joyrides around the orbit must be fun, but then they have a lot of work to do that probably couldn't be done in the Earth's atmosphere, like running maintenance checks on satellites, zero gravity experiments etc. The way you said to colonise is already being done by the way, but only so much can be done by robots at this time.

[TrantaLocked]

You really need to think out side of the box before you post. We aren't going into space "just to go into space." First of all, when we go to the moon, and soon other planets, we learn more about them and their composition. Learning this makes it more possible to plan a colonization. When we colonize, we expand our race. We take advantage of those infinite miles of space to build our population to become more diverse and enlarge our trading system. Also, there may be different opportunities to expand and improve technology on other planets, or even create new tourist sites.

Let me ask you some thing: Do you want man to live on Earth forever? If you don't, well there is no stopping it anyways. It is natural for us to want to learn and expand. The steps we are taking right now may seem basic and unnecessary [to you], but how can we get to colonizing without doing these things? We can't suddenly be in 1940 with no spacecraft or real knowledge of our solar system, and the next decade go straight to "Deodora [example inexistent planet]" to colonize . These things take time.

Currently, Nasa is working on the Ares IV, which will be taking another group of men to the moon. THIS, this "Ares," is unnecessary, no doubt. We need to plan and create a base on Mars, continuing our path of space domination. Going to the moon again solves or improves nothing.

[AJ]

At 8/25/09 07:17 PM, Ptcfast wrote: Are you happy that i actually quoted something you said?! Anyway, lets make a compromise, since you saw Wall-E two hours ago and feel that robots are the cure for everything; lets send Stephen Hawkings into space. Since Stephen Hawkings is part robot and human, we both win :D

Actually I was basing it off of how we have the Viking robots on mars STILL, and it was cheaper then flying a couple guys to the moon since they had all sorts of life support doohickeys,, and they had to be flown back, but WALL-E works. And you bet your fucking ass I'll compromise with that, on one condition. No life sustaining equipment that I'll have to pay out the ass for. If he's as smart as he thinks he is, he'll find a way to not freeze to death. :)

[Ptcfast]

At 8/25/09 07:22 PM, michelinman wrote: Actually I was basing it off of how we have the Viking robots on mars STILL, and it was cheaper then flying a couple guys to the moon since they had all sorts of life support doohickeys.

Why do you worry about money?! Why the hell should that bother you?!