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Response to Wouldn't Satan be the good guy? 2009-08-27 16:07:21 Reply

At 8/27/09 03:59 PM, mastershake141 wrote:
At 8/24/09 02:45 PM, andhination wrote: Hitler was a devout Christian.
Stalin was an atheist, I'm now going to base all of my feelings towards athiests based on the actions of Stalin.

Wow, you completely missed the entire point of my post. Nice job asshole.


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Response to Wouldn't Satan be the good guy? 2009-08-27 16:10:24 Reply

The whole "God want us ignorant" and "Satan is knowledge" thing again huh?

God's a dick anyways at least satan gives you stuff, but he doesn't like humans so he'd probably just act nice to get you into his hands while rubbing it all in god's face whilst he tortures your blasphemous ass.

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Response to Wouldn't Satan be the good guy? 2009-08-27 16:11:00 Reply

At 8/27/09 04:07 PM, andhination wrote:
At 8/27/09 03:59 PM, mastershake141 wrote:
At 8/24/09 02:45 PM, andhination wrote: Hitler was a devout Christian.
Stalin was an atheist, I'm now going to base all of my feelings towards athiests based on the actions of Stalin.
Wow, you completely missed the entire point of my post. Nice job asshole.

My bad, I hadn't read your post, someone had quoted you and I thought thats all you posted.

Although my statement still does stand for people who use the "Hitler was christain" argument of why christianity is bad.

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Response to Wouldn't Satan be the good guy? 2009-08-27 16:14:17 Reply

At 8/24/09 01:45 PM, KingofKool wrote: I mean, if you read the bible, it was actually Satan who freed mankind from Yahweh's fascist rule. He's not the one who supposedly sends people to hell, god does. He just wants people to be individuals and enjoy life. Discuss.

One of the most common thing of Christians is that their are afraid of change. They are conservative. Why do you think they hate someone who tries to change things?


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Response to Wouldn't Satan be the good guy? 2009-08-27 18:02:13 Reply

But if the Bible is the foundation of our example of good and evil, then how do you define good and evil if you reject its lessons?

But of course, you are correct.


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Response to Wouldn't Satan be the good guy? 2009-08-27 18:03:56 Reply

I'm not a Bible thumper so I've never even heard of that passage before, but I recall a part when Satan kept trying to get Jesus to use his powers and put them to bad use or something. I'm pretty sure he's the bad dude, with the flames, and whatnot.

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Response to Wouldn't Satan be the good guy? 2009-08-27 18:24:26 Reply

I believe! *bows to you* Can I have some money?


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Response to Wouldn't Satan be the good guy? 2009-08-27 18:30:28 Reply

God killed Sodam and Gamorah.

I mean, they weren't hurting anyone, they just wanted to fuck like animals. Is that too much to ask?

And that pillar of salt bullshit.

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Response to Wouldn't Satan be the good guy? 2009-08-27 18:33:30 Reply

At 8/27/09 04:02 PM, OneWordName wrote:
At 8/27/09 03:46 PM, yurgenburgen wrote: Yeah... he wasn't a Christian. He was raised as a Roman Catholic and as he stated, he remained one throughout his life.
You're a fucking moron.

Elaborate, or fuck off.

Just because Christianity and Roman Catholicism are strongly related, they are not the same religion. Unless you meant that Catholics are Christian because they believe in Jesus, but since you didn't bother to specify any reason as to why I am a "fucking moron" I have no way of knowing which bit of my post you disagreed with.

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Response to Wouldn't Satan be the good guy? 2009-08-27 18:52:12 Reply

At 8/27/09 06:33 PM, yurgenburgen wrote:
At 8/27/09 04:02 PM, OneWordName wrote:
At 8/27/09 03:46 PM, yurgenburgen wrote: Yeah... he wasn't a Christian. He was raised as a Roman Catholic and as he stated, he remained one throughout his life.
You're a fucking moron.
Elaborate, or fuck off.

Just because Christianity and Roman Catholicism are strongly related, they are not the same religion. Unless you meant that Catholics are Christian because they believe in Jesus, but since you didn't bother to specify any reason as to why I am a "fucking moron" I have no way of knowing which bit of my post you disagreed with.

Actually, "Christian" is the broad term for "followers of Christ". It includes Catholics and Protestants.

Also, that has nothing to do with the topic of whether or not Satan is good. If Satan exists, I'm pretty sure he's not the nicest fella in the world.


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Response to Wouldn't Satan be the good guy? 2009-08-27 18:54:36 Reply

Nope Satan is the bad guy, don't question the bible cause you obviously haven't read it :D


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Response to Wouldn't Satan be the good guy? 2009-08-27 18:56:53 Reply

Will you bastards keep fucking religon out of the general BBS!!! fucking book of horse shit!!!


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Response to Wouldn't Satan be the good guy? 2009-08-27 19:07:43 Reply

At 8/27/09 06:56 PM, smeagol1 wrote: Will you bastards keep fucking religon out of the general BBS!!! fucking book of horse shit!!!

Then how will atheists try to convince religious people that there is no god?

And how will religious people make fun of atheists for not believing in God?

Isn't arguing so much better than allowing people to have differing opinions?


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Response to Wouldn't Satan be the good guy? 2009-08-27 19:13:11 Reply

At 8/25/09 02:27 PM, Zoraxe7 wrote:
At 8/24/09 02:45 PM, andhination wrote: Hitler was a devout Christian.
He sure as fuck wasn't, hell, one of his stated goals was the destruction of Christianity in Germany.
Good chance he was an atheist, but we don't know what he was really.

Why did he like Christians and shun Jews, then?

Also, if yo dont mind, in before "HE ONLY LIKED BLONDE HAIRED BLUE EYED PEOPLE!" because I am blonde-haired, blue-eyed, and, dammit I just lost my train of thought. Sorry, it was relevant though...

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Response to Wouldn't Satan be the good guy? 2009-08-27 19:18:57 Reply

At 8/27/09 07:07 PM, Fancyman wrote:
At 8/27/09 06:56 PM, smeagol1 wrote: Will you bastards keep fucking religon out of the general BBS!!! fucking book of horse shit!!!
Then how will atheists try to convince religious people that there is no god?

Im not a fucking athiest Im pagan Old Norse. I converted to this because it's the only real thing that interests me. My familys is catholic but I refuse to obey the church. Infact I am very anti-chritstian.

I just don't like religon discussed in an already dieing forum. Tom shoul made a fucking sub forum for religon ONLY.


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Response to Wouldn't Satan be the good guy? 2009-08-27 19:21:04 Reply

At 8/27/09 07:18 PM, smeagol1 wrote:

Im not a fucking athiest Im pagan Old Norse. I converted to this because it's the only real thing that interests me. My familys is catholic but I refuse to obey the church. Infact I am very anti-chritstian.

I just don't like religon discussed in an already dieing forum. Tom shoul made a fucking sub forum for religon ONLY.

Corrected my bad.

Corrected.


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Response to Wouldn't Satan be the good guy? 2009-08-27 19:27:28 Reply

In originality Satan was an angel, he was a rebel angel but an angel nonetheless.
I'm not familiar with the story but...

Lucifer was cast out of heaven long before God created Earth and long before the business with the forbidden fruit.

I cant remember the whole story.


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Response to Wouldn't Satan be the good guy? 2009-08-27 19:29:39 Reply

Basicly god a satan were friends. Then satan said why god is better then god got pissed and sent him to hell


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Response to Wouldn't Satan be the good guy? 2009-08-27 19:47:15 Reply

At 8/27/09 07:21 PM, smeagol1 wrote: Im not a fucking athiest Im pagan Old Norse.

no you're not, shut the fuck up.


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Response to Wouldn't Satan be the good guy? 2009-08-27 20:03:45 Reply

At 8/24/09 01:48 PM, KingofKool wrote: Just read Genesis. He gave people knowledge which freed them. Then GOD, not Satan, cursed humanity.

Freed them? Under God's rule, people would have been equal and perfect, living in an earthly paradise. Satan fucked that shit up, made us all think for ourselves, and we tried to play God ourselves through the governments. List one successful government. There are always problems.

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Response to Wouldn't Satan be the good guy? 2009-08-27 21:48:09 Reply

I always thought that too, Satan seems like a guy i'd like to have a beer with

if he existed of course

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Response to Wouldn't Satan be the good guy? 2009-08-27 21:50:53 Reply

In the bible, all of God's creations, specifically mankind, band together, they say that with their combined power that their is nothing they can't over come, begin building a tower, I'm not too sure, it's been a while since I've read this.

God, seeing this, spreads his creation through the world, and shatters their language.

Is it possible for an almighty being to be this insecure?


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Response to Wouldn't Satan be the good guy? 2009-08-27 21:54:40 Reply

At 8/24/09 02:40 PM, DevilDog016 wrote: At least he made someone invent the boat.

Now make a chart of how many people that the Devil and God SAVED.

Devil- 0

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Response to Wouldn't Satan be the good guy? 2009-08-27 22:04:57 Reply

I always looked at it that way. That God was some crazy tyrant douchebag and Satan was this rebellious individual who wanted freedom and individuality.

Old Testament God is different from New Testament God though. And I don't know if the devil is mentioned in New Testament. Not like I was ever religious.


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Response to Wouldn't Satan be the good guy? 2009-08-27 22:12:27 Reply

At 8/24/09 02:00 PM, RedShepherd wrote:
At 8/24/09 01:49 PM, TheSilverGuitar wrote: I still don't get the bit about disobeying god and then being tortured by Satan in hell. I mean, wouldn't the fellow reward you for doing such a thing?
I actually never thought of it that way in my entire life, but it's a damn good point.

Just more proof that Christianity is a fantasy.

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Response to Wouldn't Satan be the good guy? 2009-08-27 22:34:19 Reply

At 8/24/09 02:40 PM, DevilDog016 wrote: At least he made someone invent the boat.

lol I like that chart


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Response to Wouldn't Satan be the good guy? 2009-08-27 22:48:17 Reply

Why do people even bother arguing this any more?

Religion has no logic and is complete bullshit.

At the same time, Science can't prove jack shit.

You may as well just hit yourself in the head repeatedly with a hammer... For all the good its doing...


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Response to Wouldn't Satan be the good guy? 2009-08-27 23:14:16 Reply

I especially love how much of a power whore God is. I haven't read the full bible but some of his commandments show what a power hungry fucker that guy is.

(these are the official commandments taken from Wikipedia)

"You shall worship no Gods before me"
Now hang on, I thought God is the only God, so how can we worship any other Gods??

"You shall not make for yourself an idol"
Now here he is saying that we absolutely have to worship him, and we cannot be an idol to anyone, like our children or younger siblings. He demands we love him only.

"You shall not make wrongful use of the name of your God"
So here he's saying that we can't say "Oh my God" or blame something bad that happened on him. Even if it is his fault, he is still never wrong.

"Honor your father and mother"
This is just some cheap way of having kids be good for their parents because the parents were too useless to actually keep their kids in order. Well I say fuck that, respect should be earned not expected.

"You shall not murder"
This is the most bullshit commandment there is. God has killed millions of people according to the bible such as the flood in the Noah's Ark story. And also, more people have been killed in the name of God than any other reason. When the Romans became Christian, anyone who wasn't Christian was killed.

The rest are just basic rules made up to keep people in order. But those few commandments just show what a power hungry selfish guy he is. "HEY you didn't surrender everything to me and bow to me therefor you can get fucked and go to Hell bitch hahahaahah"

It kinda reminds you of some whiny 12 year old with no life doesn't it? For a man that's supposed to love all of us, he really doesn't seem to make it easy for us to be with him.


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Response to Wouldn't Satan be the good guy? 2009-08-28 01:54:40 Reply

Arguing about religion is totally cool and worthwhile and everything, but I just thought I'd point some things out after seeing this.

At 8/27/09 11:14 PM, Skulsta wrote: I especially love how much of a power whore God is. I haven't read the full bible but some of his commandments show what a power hungry fucker that guy is.

(these are the official commandments taken from Wikipedia)

"You shall worship no Gods before me"
Now hang on, I thought God is the only God, so how can we worship any other Gods??

"You shall not make for yourself an idol"
Now here he is saying that we absolutely have to worship him, and we cannot be an idol to anyone, like our children or younger siblings. He demands we love him only.

These are both parts of the first commandment, and your interpretation is way off. They are interpretted as saying that it is wrong to worship false Gods, whether they are actual "dieties" or concepts (for example, putting money or pleasure before God would be wrong).

"You shall not make wrongful use of the name of your God"
So here he's saying that we can't say "Oh my God" or blame something bad that happened on him. Even if it is his fault, he is still never wrong.

Again, that's not what it means. It's basically saying that you shouldn't go around called God a dickhead because you stubbed your toe or something. Also, I can't think of any situation that would directly be God's fault, assuming he exists.

"Honor your father and mother"
This is just some cheap way of having kids be good for their parents because the parents were too useless to actually keep their kids in order. Well I say fuck that, respect should be earned not expected.

Parents or parental figures, for the most part, earn respect by raising you and caring for you. I mean, they could have just aborted you.

"You shall not murder"
This is the most bullshit commandment there is. God has killed millions of people according to the bible such as the flood in the Noah's Ark story. And also, more people have been killed in the name of God than any other reason. When the Romans became Christian, anyone who wasn't Christian was killed.

Technically you can't blame God for the people "killed in the name of God", because God told those people not to kill.

The rest are just basic rules made up to keep people in order. But those few commandments just show what a power hungry selfish guy he is. "HEY you didn't surrender everything to me and bow to me therefor you can get fucked and go to Hell bitch hahahaahah"

I haven't read much of the Bible, but I'm going to assume God never says that.

It kinda reminds you of some whiny 12 year old with no life doesn't it? For a man that's supposed to love all of us, he really doesn't seem to make it easy for us to be with him.

I don't consider myself religious, but, if you're religious, you have a really fucked up notion of God. And if you're an atheist, all of this is moot and none of it should matter to you, because there is no God.

Honestly, Newgrounds should implement some sort of rule against complaining about religious matters. It's never productive and it only creates animosity.


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Response to Wouldn't Satan be the good guy? 2009-08-28 02:14:56 Reply

Truly, its the lunatics who are the sanest of us all. They don't wait for an answer or need an explanation, they grab life by the balls and make the most of it.