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Yes, you heard me right. In the town of Salem, way back when in the early colonial period in Salem Town, Massachusetts. In this town, many were accused of witchcraft and were stoned, beaten, and hanged. Today in that very same town, tourist can reenact the same trials held there.
Back in the 1940s, many were killed in what is known in the holocaust. Thousands of people were taken to death camps and either beaten, burned, or gassed. I ask you, why would we happily reenact the mistrial of people that were sentenced to death, for our pleasure. If we do this, why don't we just reenact the gassing of jews in the very same death camp.
So I have come up with the conclusion, if ( apples = oranges ) { Salem witch trials = holocaust }

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Genocide = / = Holocaust.

The only Holocaust there is is that of the jews.

And the poser Holocaust.

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Oh yes, because witches are for sure a well-established ethnic group in America.

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That doesn't make any sense. If people reenact the holocaust, which happened in a town where witchcraft was punished massively, that nowadays also gets reenacted, that doesn't make witchcraft equal to the holocaust, you silly person.

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There weren't nearly as many people killed.

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You're an idiot. The Salem Witch Trials had nothing to do with ethnicity.


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At 8/23/09 12:56 PM, AniMetal wrote: Genocide = / = Holocaust.

The only Holocaust there is is that of the jews.

And the poser Holocaust.

You mean paranoia and witchhunts =/= holocaust.
Holocaust = Genocide.

But no, the parallel to the Salem Witch trials have been pointed out by many to be the McCarthy commission, and to this day, if you use the word Socialist or Communist, even if and especially if you use it improperly, it's a condemnation, and its meant to destroy a person's credibility and point of view.

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At 8/23/09 12:56 PM, AniMetal wrote: Genocide = / = Holocaust.

The only Holocaust there is is that of the jews.

And the poser Holocaust.

What about the Holocaust of the Gypsies.

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At 8/23/09 02:10 PM, BioEthanol wrote:
At 8/23/09 12:56 PM, AniMetal wrote: Genocide = / = Holocaust.

The only Holocaust there is is that of the jews.

And the poser Holocaust.
What about the Holocaust of the Gypsies.

The word Holocaust only refers to what happened to the Jews. After the war the Jews used the term Holocaust to desribe their suffering. Whilst the Gypsies were persecuted by the Nazis it was not The Holocaust

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At 8/23/09 01:02 PM, GiantDouche wrote: You're an idiot. The Salem Witch Trials had nothing to do with ethnicity.

No, it was actually something to do with feminists.

And Jews aren't an ethnicity, they're a religion.


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At 8/23/09 02:32 PM, Proottalfain wrote:
At 8/23/09 01:02 PM, GiantDouche wrote: You're an idiot. The Salem Witch Trials had nothing to do with ethnicity.
No, it was actually something to do with feminists.

And Jews aren't an ethnicity, they're a religion.

ACtually they're both Jews are an ethnoreligious group according to Wikipedia.

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Holocaust....

....What Holocaust?

I didn't see no friggin' Holocaust

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At 8/23/09 02:32 PM, Proottalfain wrote:
At 8/23/09 01:02 PM, GiantDouche wrote: You're an idiot. The Salem Witch Trials had nothing to do with ethnicity.
No, it was actually something to do with feminists.

And something to do with ergot.

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At 8/23/09 12:54 PM, CompleteDouche wrote: Yes, you heard me right. In the town of Salem, way back when in the early colonial period in Salem Town, Massachusetts. In this town, many were accused of witchcraft and were stoned,

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For the record, according to the introduction to my copy of The Crucible, by Christopher Bigsby, (play by Arthur Miller), "In 1692 nineteen men and women and two dogs were convicted and hanged for witchcraft [in Salem, Massachusetts]."

Comparing nineteen deaths to six million is just silly.

There are other reasons why this comparison is half-baked. As stated by others, the Holocaust was genocide (before the term existed!), and the Salem witch trials were specific targeting of individuals. The Holocaust had no regard for the individual, whereas the Salem witch trials were based upon it, whether fairly or not.

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At 8/24/09 04:34 AM, iamgrimreaper wrote:
At 8/23/09 12:54 PM, CompleteDouche wrote: In this town, many were accused of witchcraft and were stoned,
Wait wait wait.. Hold on a sec... What's wrong with getting stoned? MARIJUANA IS AWESOME!

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At 8/24/09 04:40 AM, SeeInTheDark wrote: There are other reasons why this comparison is half-baked.

I'd rather be fully baked. Namean?

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At 8/23/09 12:56 PM, AniMetal wrote:
But no, the parallel to the Salem Witch trials have been pointed out by many to be the McCarthy commission, and to this day, if you use the word Socialist or Communist, even if and especially if you use it improperly, it's a condemnation, and its meant to destroy a person's credibility and point of view.

A fact which I find incredibly irritating. "Communist" is the new "Witch".
As a matter of fact, Communism isn't a bad system. Marx deserves a cookie for helping out the proletariat. But crazy people got control, brainwashed everyone with propaganda and mythology, and proceeded to to kill millions of people based on their ethnicity. And people blame communism just as much as the leaders. Unjustly.


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At 8/23/09 12:56 PM, AniMetal wrote: And the poser Holocaust.

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Apples = oranges if your a proper nut

Salem + time = Tourist attraction
Holocaust + time = still in our memory, in a time of civility there was still evil, it was truely gruesome brought on by pure hatred of a clearly understood race which was still mistreated for doing nothing wrong.

Its not going to ever be made light of like the crazed history of Salem, ever.

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At 8/24/09 04:54 AM, Sensationalism wrote: I'd rather be fully baked. Namean?

I don't understand D:

Salem witch trials = holocaust

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At 8/24/09 05:16 AM, SeeInTheDark wrote:
At 8/24/09 04:54 AM, Sensationalism wrote: I'd rather be fully baked. Namean?
I don't understand D:

You know... fully baked.

Salem witch trials = holocaust

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Millions of people were killed in the Holocaust.


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Sometimes I like to think millions of people died doing rudimentary and old style things too.

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