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Massachusetts Sex Offenders Convicted Before 2006 Don't Have to Wear GPS Devices, Says Supreme Judicial Court

The Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court says that people convicted of sexual crimes before 2006 do not have to wear GPS devices if they violate parole or probation. The decision split the court 4-3. The majoI love how Melanie's law makes it impossible for someone with DUIs from 20 years ago still can't get a license, yet on the same dime, this is a violation of a sex offender's rights? You know, at first I thought it was just the judges in the juvenile system that were morons, but this puts it over the top. We seriously need to change the court system so we can impeach moron judges like this. Right now they are immune to prosecution for stupidity like this.rity, however, said that the law cannot be applied retroactively.

Welcome to Massachusetts, home of Socialism, Political correctness, and now OFFENDERS RIGHTS! That's right Mass citizens, its official, if you are a law abiding citizen, you now have less rights then a child molester, rapist, or wife beater.

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At 8/19/09 11:59 AM, StCyril wrote: Welcome to Massachusetts, home of Socialism, Political correctness, and now OFFENDERS RIGHTS! That's right Mass citizens, its official, if you are a law abiding citizen, you now have less rights then a child molester, rapist, or wife beater.

Sure, we'll just shoot anyone who appears to be a paedophile in any way after torturing them for a week or three. Hell, let's extend this to anyone who so much breaths out of turn. Anyone who breaks any law must be tortured and then killed.

Let's face it, you guys will never be satisfied with any government you get.

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Posted at: 8/19/09 12:58 PM

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im so happy I'm 22 and dont have kids, because thats just wrong, all pedos should have to wear nto only a GPS tracking device, but a shirt that says "IM A SEX OFFENDER, STAY AWAY!"


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At 8/19/09 12:58 PM, JKMonkey wrote: im so happy I'm 22 and dont have kids, because thats just wrong, all pedos should have to wear nto only a GPS tracking device, but a shirt that says "IM A SEX OFFENDER, STAY AWAY!"

I think that "SEX OFFENDER" should be tattooed on their foreheads. imo.

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...wow... just wow. What next? sex legal at any age?

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Your opinion here leads me to believe that you are beyond help and live in a state of crippling idiocy.

But... I'll ignore that and go ahead and comment anyway. Legally, you can't punish people retroactively. Why? It's a Constitutional amendment found within the bill of rights (more specifically the 5th Amendment) that prevents double jeopardy.

From the Wikipedia article:
"The double jeopardy rule arises from the Fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution, the relevant clause of which reads:
"... nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb ... "

This clause is intended to limit abuse by the government in repeated prosecution for the same offense as a means of harassment or oppression. It is also in harmony with the common law concept of res judicata which prevents courts from relitigating issues which have already been the subject of a final judgment."

I don't know why there's a prior to 2006 stipulation to their ruling, other than perhaps another law that requires ALL sex offenders to wear GPS.

Anyway, I personally think the entire thing is retarded. Sex offenders shouldn't be permanent second-class citizens simply because of their unfortunate and nearly unchangeable fetish. I don't agree with registering sex offenders for public notice, I don't agree with GPS tracking devices, none of that shit. However, if you're convicted of raping a child, I do believe that your testosterone should become forfeit. State repossesses your balls, you're not aggressive nor inclined toward sexual pursuits whatsoever, you don't have to be tracked for your whereabouts, everyone's happy.

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Gee, this law doesn't have any double standards at all. What if some who was convicted on 1998 raped 18 children, and someone convicted in 2007 raped 1? Shouldn't the 1998 convict have some sort of detection for parole violation? Gee, next thing you know, they'll make gay marriage illegal.

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At 8/19/09 01:51 PM, Evark wrote: Your opinion here leads me to believe that you are beyond help and live in a state of crippling idiocy.

Fuck you. You don't think these perverts should be locked away and innocent people protected and you say I live in a state of idiocy.

But... I'll ignore that and go ahead and comment anyway. Legally, you can't punish people retroactively. Why? It's a Constitutional amendment found within the bill of rights (more specifically the 5th Amendment) that prevents double jeopardy.

A law can't work Retroactively you say? What about Melanie's law? Someone who was found guilty 20 years ago can't get a license now because of it.

From the Wikipedia article:

How bout you find a legitimate source for information.

Anyway, I personally think the entire thing is retarded. Sex offenders shouldn't be permanent second-class citizens simply because of their unfortunate and nearly unchangeable fetish. I don't agree with registering sex offenders for public notice, I don't agree with GPS tracking devices, none of that shit. However, if you're convicted of raping a child, I do believe that your testosterone should become forfeit. State repossesses your balls, you're not aggressive nor inclined toward sexual pursuits whatsoever, you don't have to be tracked for your whereabouts, everyone's happy.

I personally hope you never have children, ever. Because any child born on to this kind of idiocy is better off dead, and I fear for anyone who has been/ or will be assaulted by these perverts if someone with your idiocy ever gets in to office!

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At 8/19/09 12:48 PM, Lost-Chances wrote:
At 8/19/09 11:59 AM, StCyril wrote: Welcome to Massachusetts, home of Socialism, Political correctness, and now OFFENDERS RIGHTS! That's right Mass citizens, its official, if you are a law abiding citizen, you now have less rights then a child molester, rapist, or wife beater.
Sure, we'll just shoot anyone who appears to be a paedophile in any way after torturing them for a week or three. Hell, let's extend this to anyone who so much breaths out of turn. Anyone who breaks any law must be tortured and then killed.

Let's face it, you guys will never be satisfied with any government you get.

Um he didn't say anyone who likes like it you moron. He said someone who WAS one. Grow a fucking brain. You 13 year olds really piss me off. You have not lived long enough or seen enough to have any type of legit opinion on how the world works, so you make grossly inaccurate statements from your balls. Seriously Shut the fuck up!


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Ya know, just because you disagree with a politician doesn't mean they should be impeached.

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At 8/20/09 01:03 PM, milinko959 wrote: Ya know, just because you disagree with a politician doesn't mean they should be impeached.

There is some difference between a judge and a politician. Judges, once in can not be removed unless they do something REALLY bad. It doesn't matter how unethical their decisions are. They can make rulings based on their own feelings regardless of the letter of the law and are completely unchecked, and it needs to stop.


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I'm not exactly sure if I agree with you. In fact, I'm too spaced-out to even be sure what you said, but it did make me think of something:

When you think "pedophile," you think "man," right? Well, what about women? I have never once heard of a woman pedophile. And it's like everyone assumes they're totally fine, and let's them get away with a hundred time more things than men could. *Gasp* Sexism!!! =O


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At 8/20/09 01:05 PM, Riech wrote:
At 8/20/09 01:03 PM, milinko959 wrote: Ya know, just because you disagree with a politician doesn't mean they should be impeached.
There is some difference between a judge and a politician. Judges, once in can not be removed unless they do something REALLY bad. It doesn't matter how unethical their decisions are. They can make rulings based on their own feelings regardless of the letter of the law and are completely unchecked, and it needs to stop.

Thank you, that is exactly the point I've been trying to make here. These judges are immune from public scrutiny. NO ONE in a democratic society should be immune from the common man. That kind of power is nothing short of tyrannical.

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At 8/19/09 01:31 PM, pizza4ever wrote: ...wow... just wow. What next? sex legal at any age?

Ha at this rate?


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At 8/20/09 01:10 PM, Davoo wrote: I'm not exactly sure if I agree with you. In fact, I'm too spaced-out to even be sure what you said, but it did make me think of something:

When you think "pedophile," you think "man," right? Well, what about women? I have never once heard of a woman pedophile. And it's like everyone assumes they're totally fine, and let's them get away with a hundred time more things than men could. *Gasp* Sexism!!! =O

sadly that is in part because men don't report it, but it is estimated that near 50% of sex offenders in the US are women. But yes, sexism. One of these women who had sex with a young boy was allowed to be on house arrest because she was "too beautiful" to go to prison... no I'm not kidding... look for yourself...

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i live in MA, and we have some stupid ass laws. i see geico commercials 20 times a day, and yet geico doesnt protect MA drivers cuz my home state has the worst drivers in the country. also if you dont pay 1,000 dollars for driving school. you have to wait till you're 18 to get a license.

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At 8/20/09 01:18 PM, gizmo12345 wrote: i live in MA, and we have some stupid ass laws. i see geico commercials 20 times a day, and yet geico doesnt protect MA drivers cuz my home state has the worst drivers in the country. also if you dont pay 1,000 dollars for driving school. you have to wait till you're 18 to get a license.

WHAT? Geico protects Ma residents! I have Geico.

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silly Massachusetts when will you learn

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At 8/20/09 01:17 PM, StCyril wrote: sadly that is in part because men don't report it, but it is estimated that near 50% of sex offenders in the US are women. But yes, sexism.

You know... you have a point. If I got raped by some pedophile woman, I wouldn't mind thaaaat much. ^^;


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At 8/20/09 01:44 PM, Davoo wrote:
At 8/20/09 01:17 PM, StCyril wrote: sadly that is in part because men don't report it, but it is estimated that near 50% of sex offenders in the US are women. But yes, sexism.
You know... you have a point. If I got raped by some pedophile woman, I wouldn't mind thaaaat much. ^^;

You may change your mind if the woman looks like one of those lesbians you see at the gay pride rallies, short hair and extremely butch!

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At 8/20/09 01:02 PM, Riech wrote: Um he didn't say anyone who likes like it you moron. He said someone who WAS one. Grow a fucking brain. You 13 year olds really piss me off. You have not lived long enough or seen enough to have any type of legit opinion on how the world works, so you make grossly inaccurate statements from your balls. Seriously Shut the fuck up!

You first make two sentences that make no sense and then you spend the next few sentences making retarded assumptions. Don't throw your word about like an angst twat.

Oh, and you don't need to capitalise "shut".

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At 8/20/09 02:43 PM, Lost-Chances wrote: You first make two sentences that make no sense and then you spend the next few sentences making retarded assumptions. Don't throw your word about like an angst twat.

Oh, and you don't need to capitalise "shut".

Would someone mind telling me what is up with her anyway? She's angrier then SOAS or Captain Jack combined.

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At 8/20/09 12:57 PM, StCyril wrote: Fuck you. You don't think these perverts should be locked away and innocent people protected and you say I live in a state of idiocy.

Oh yea. Because once you lock away the offender the crime never occurs again, right? /me rolls eyes. These people need help, dude. Public exposure is not helpful.

A law can't work Retroactively you say? What about Melanie's law? Someone who was found guilty 20 years ago can't get a license now because of it.

Right. Because the law is in effect and a license is not a right, it's a privilege. Whereas, if they already have their license, they couldn't have it suspended simply because the law has changed after the fact.

How bout you find a legitimate source for information.

... because what I quoted wasn't indisputably legitimate, as sourced from the US Constitution and legal scholastics.

I personally hope you never have children, ever. Because any child born on to this kind of idiocy is better off dead, and I fear for anyone who has been/ or will be assaulted by these perverts if someone with your idiocy ever gets in to office!

I thought you were bitching here about judges, not elected office. Anyway, I don't know why or how you've made the logical leap that my personal opinion on how to treat convicted sex offenders will somehow affect the safety of my children. You're absolutely mistaken if you think I wouldn't horrifically slay someone I knew had abused my children. That doesn't mean I condone the legal system tramping on their rights. The government is there to protect their rights against my rage and yours.

I'm sorry I incised you with an insult to respond so quickly, as none of your counter-points were well-thought out at all.

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Being a sex offender doesn't mean you're a pedophile or a rapists. People get labeled one for the simplest things like permitting underage daughter to have sex or teenagers sending nude photos to each other.

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I live in Massachusetts this scares me. However I'm no longer a child so I guess it doesn't effect me just my kids if i ever have any.

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My dear homeland, what have you done now?

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