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At 2/15/04 06:15 PM, JudgeFUNK wrote: Besides, if I'm crazy, I must be one of the good kinds. God never tells ME to go killing people, or to claim to be the Chosen One. He mainly says stuff like "Chill out", "LIfe IS fair, your definition of fair is just wrong", etc. Mainly He tells me NOT to do stuff I want to do, like set peoples houses on fire who piss me off.

If God is talking to you, you must be a heretic. Bring out the stake, people. It's time for some barbecue.

MMMmmmm.... steak.....

Could you bring potatoes and onions too?

At 2/15/04 06:10 PM, Proteas wrote: en·tro·py:
2. A measure of the disorder or randomness in a closed system.
4. The tendency for all matter and energy in the universe to evolve toward a state of inert uniformity.

As you yourself wrote, entropy only occurs in closed systems. Whilst the universe is indeed a closed system, the earth is not. Hence there is no contradiction in the idea of evolution occuring - evolutionary theory does not contradict the laws of thermodynamics.

-Philonous

At 2/15/04 06:26 PM, Proteas wrote: Like, life expectancy, for example. Weren't there reports of people a few thousand years ago living past the 200 year mark? Now your lucky if you make it past 90.

What are you on? a few hundred years ago, you were lucky to live past 35.

At 2/16/04 04:02 AM, bumcheekcity wrote: What are you on? a few hundred years ago, you were lucky to live past 35.

If you made it to 50, you were in the zone. Depending on what part of the world you were in, you would also be lucky to be more than 5 feet tall.

At 2/15/04 08:53 PM, philonous wrote: As you yourself wrote, entropy only occurs in closed systems. Whilst the universe is indeed a closed system, the earth is not. Hence there is no contradiction in the idea of evolution occuring - evolutionary theory does not contradict the laws of thermodynamics.

Earth is the only planet in the known universe able to support life.
Explain to me why the Earth is not considered a closed system.

Cold medication, if you must know, bcc.

At 2/15/04 06:26 PM, Proteas wrote:
I'm sayingt that while Darwin's Theory of Evolution says things get better, Entropy states that things gradually get worse. Like, life expectancy, for example. Weren't there reports of people a few thousand years ago living past the 200 year mark? Now your lucky if you make it past 90.

Why has no one corrected this man yet? Has no one identified his flawed definition of evolution?

Your opinion of 'better' has nothing to do with it. Darwin's theory states that things adapt to better suit their enviroment. No one ever said 'Every evolution of every species has been an improvement', because that would be crap. "Improvement" is an opinion, just like 'better'.

There are fish on the bottom of the ocean that, through evolution and adaption, no longer needed eyes. so they live with senses, and no sight. This wasn't neccessarily an 'improvement', it was just adaption.

I pity everyone who has completely disregarded elemental facts of this debate.

IT HAS BEEN PROVEN AND EVIDENCE HAS BEEN FOUND THAT ANCIENT CIVILISATIONS CREATED 'GOD' TO EXPLAIN THE EXISTENCE OF HUMAN BEINGS TO THEIR YOUNG.

THERE IS ALSO EVIDENCE THAT SUGGESTS EVERYTHING IN THE NEW TESTAMENT IS FICTION WHICH MEANS JESUS AND ALL OF THE OTHER CHARACTERS WERE NON-EXISTANT

Can we please get a reality check here.

At 2/16/04 10:50 AM, Proteas wrote:

At 2/15/04 08:53 PM, philonous wrote: As you yourself wrote, entropy only occurs in closed systems. Whilst the universe is indeed a closed system, the earth is not. Hence there is no contradiction in the idea of evolution occuring - evolutionary theory does not contradict the laws of thermodynamics.

Earth is the only planet in the known universe able to support life.

I'd also like to contradict that, sir.

Microbes have been discovered on Mars but NASA are determined to keep quiet about it. This is definitely true though. Not only that, even if you don't want to believe these facts NASA have admitted that they know Mars can sustain life.

One of the moons of Jupiter, I think it's Europa but I wouldn't be certain on this, is believe to be likely to sustain sealife.

At 2/16/04 11:35 AM, shitt0r wrote:

Microbes have been discovered on Mars but NASA are determined to keep quiet about it. This is definitely true though. Not only that, even if you don't want to believe these facts NASA have admitted that they know Mars can sustain life.

"This is definitely true though.' Where's some kind of proof, or fact? Or is this just your opinion?

One of the moons of Jupiter, I think it's Europa but I wouldn't be certain on this, is believe to be likely to sustain sealife.

Well that's just nifty. We can all pack up and de-evolve to sea dwelling creatures. When someone says a planet cannot sustain life, it usually means ALL life. Not just ocean creatures.

At 2/16/04 11:31 AM, shitt0r wrote: I pity everyone who has completely disregarded elemental facts of this debate.

IT HAS BEEN PROVEN AND EVIDENCE HAS BEEN FOUND THAT ANCIENT CIVILISATIONS CREATED 'GOD' TO EXPLAIN THE EXISTENCE OF HUMAN BEINGS TO THEIR YOUNG.

That's a real rough definition of it...and it's not so much 'proven' as it is a 'theory'...although it's one i roughly agree with. If it were 'proven', we wouldn't have to have this conversation, would we?

THERE IS ALSO EVIDENCE THAT SUGGESTS EVERYTHING IN THE NEW TESTAMENT IS FICTION WHICH MEANS JESUS AND ALL OF THE OTHER CHARACTERS WERE NON-EXISTANT

You are not, by any feasible means, a fucking genius. Theology and Deities excluded, history proves that, in fact, a man named jesus christ did live. And history says that, yes, he was crucified.

And where is this 'evidence'?

At 2/16/04 11:31 AM, shitt0r wrote: Can we please get a reality check here.

No, we can't, because you have no other proof than your own words.

Microbes have been discovered on Mars but NASA are determined to keep quiet about it. This is definitely true though. Not only that, even if you don't want to believe these facts NASA have admitted that they know Mars can sustain life.

Correction: They are researching wether or not Mars supported life at one time in the past.

Maybe life could exist, but it doesn't need Oxygen to survive. Maybe it breathes Nitrogen.

At 2/16/04 06:21 PM, bumcheekcity wrote: Maybe life could exist, but it doesn't need Oxygen to survive. Maybe it breathes Nitrogen.

No, your wrong. Jesus never said anything about Nitrogen-breathing organisms. Thus that's just a liberal ploy to turn our children away from the gospel of god.
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Yes, I'm going on leave at 2,000 posts =P

At 2/16/04 08:54 PM, -redskunk- wrote: Yes, I'm going on leave at 2,000 posts =P

No, stay. YOu're my source of entertainment :P

At 2/16/04 06:21 PM, bumcheekcity wrote: Maybe life could exist, but it doesn't need Oxygen to survive. Maybe it breathes Nitrogen.

Maybe I'm just extremely ignorant, but why must there be water for life? Sure, that's how things work on this planet, but is that necessarily how things must work on the others?

Since God made us, He can do what ever he wants to us.

At 2/17/04 09:47 AM, mentalis wrote: Since God made us, He can do what ever he wants to us.

There's a bold statement!

At 2/17/04 09:47 AM, mentalis wrote: Since God made us, He can do what ever he wants to us.

Oooh... Source for that? :P

At 2/17/04 04:45 PM, bumcheekcity wrote:

At 2/17/04 09:47 AM, mentalis wrote: Since God made us, He can do what ever he wants to us.

Oooh... Source for that? :P

Haha! I demand a source!

At 2/17/04 09:47 AM, mentalis wrote: Since God made us, He can do what ever he wants to us.

How about this one for a real brain fucker? The Bible talks about God having created life on earth. It never said that he didn't create life on any other planet, now does it?

I think God lets that shit happen to punish us for disobeying him
1. We killed jesus/ lots of other religious leaders of lots o' religons
2. We Question Its (how the hell do i know if it is a man or a woman maybe its a starnge fish thing) authority ALOT
3. We dont follow the ye old religious laws
4. Curses,Prostitution,Pimpin,Porno, ETC.
5. we fight and kill one another with are "beleifs"

At 2/17/04 09:08 PM, NeWsPaPeRmAn wrote: 4. Curses,Prostitution,Pimpin,Porno, ETC.

God loves prostitution though. Why else would he make it the oldest profession???

At 2/17/04 06:53 PM, Proteas wrote:

At 2/17/04 09:47 AM, mentalis wrote: Since God made us, He can do what ever he wants to us.

How about this one for a real brain fucker? The Bible talks about God having created life on earth. It never said that he didn't create life on any other planet, now does it?

It also never said he didn't dance the macarena on tuesdays whilst wearing womens underwear. What'#s your point?

lemme just say this:
if the world is only 7000 years old, WHAT ABOUT DINOSAURS?
it everything was made around the same time, WHAT ABOUT DINOSAURS?

People back then woulda written about GIANT FRICKING BIG REPTILE TYPE THINGEYS running around!

At 2/18/04 06:13 AM, superultimaweapon wrote: lemme just say this:
if the world is only 7000 years old, WHAT ABOUT DINOSAURS?

I think the Earth is 5500 years old, according to bible. And the sky is supported by 4 large pillars.

At 2/16/04 06:21 PM, bumcheekcity wrote: Maybe life could exist, but it doesn't need Oxygen to survive. Maybe it breathes Nitrogen.

Exactly, we are carbon-based organisms. It is not necessary that every organism in the universe that exists (or may not for that matter but that's not the argument) is also carbon-based. And if they are not carbon-based then it's feasible that they are not oxygen breathers either.

At 2/18/04 07:03 AM, shitt0r wrote: Exactly, we are carbon-based organisms. It is not necessary that every organism in the universe that exists (or may not for that matter but that's not the argument) is also carbon-based. And if they are not carbon-based then it's feasible that they are not oxygen breathers either.

It's possible they dont breathe at all, maybe they move/communicate with different methods.

I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm tired of being blamed for the death of Jesus. I have an alibi: my parents weren't born yet and I don't own a time machine.

Jesus was crucified for breaking the law, which makes it his own fault.

At 2/18/04 08:52 AM, Kyle_22 wrote: I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm tired of being blamed for the death of Jesus. I have an alibi: my parents weren't born yet and I don't own a time machine.

Jesus was crucified for breaking the law, which makes it his own fault.

Yes but if he is the son of God then doesn't he kind of have an excuse?