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Glenn Beck loses advertisers 2009-08-14 22:29:41 Reply

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What's your impression on this? Originally I thought this was huge but the impression I get from this is that the advertisers still show on Faux News Channel, just not during Glenn Beck.

After seeing that I was feeling a bit deflated, and this seems like not such a big deal afterall. At least now I can send a letter to any sponsors that hang around with Glenn Beck openly questioning their decision.


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Response to Glenn Beck loses advertisers 2009-08-14 23:41:02 Reply

This is largely fueled by the community at reddit.com.

People know they can't take down Faux News, but they can hit individual shows pretty hard by voicing dissent towards advertisers.

Welcome to the new world. You can stage fake protests at town hall meetings, but it goes both ways. If you are a relentless agent of fear, uncertainty and doom, the real mob will target you.


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Response to Glenn Beck loses advertisers 2009-08-15 01:48:41 Reply

At 8/14/09 11:41 PM, TheShrike wrote: This is largely fueled by the community at reddit.com.

People know they can't take down Faux News, but they can hit individual shows pretty hard by voicing dissent towards advertisers.

Welcome to the new world. You can stage fake protests at town hall meetings, but it goes both ways. If you are a relentless agent of fear, uncertainty and doom, the real mob will target you.

I've always wondered about that.

Since industries like:

-Wal*Mart
-AARP
-Drug Industry
-Insurance Agents

Are all signed on to the President's healthcare bill...

Who exactly is organizing these "fake" protests? Especially considering that the truly violent incidents were done by Union members who mobbed a black man while shouting racial slurs at him.

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Response to Glenn Beck loses advertisers 2009-08-15 02:04:39 Reply

take that Glenn Beck! how dare you have an opinion different from my own!?!


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Response to Glenn Beck loses advertisers 2009-08-15 02:32:48 Reply

At 8/15/09 02:04 AM, homor wrote: take that Glenn Beck! how dare you have an opinion different from my own!?!

Or maybe how dare you make shit up and wildly distort the truth to suit your own bullshit agenda. But hey, who cares as long as it agrees with your dissent for the people in power right?


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Response to Glenn Beck loses advertisers 2009-08-15 04:20:10 Reply

At 8/15/09 01:48 AM, Memorize wrote:
At 8/14/09 11:41 PM, TheShrike wrote: This is largely fueled by the community at reddit.com.

People know they can't take down Faux News, but they can hit individual shows pretty hard by voicing dissent towards advertisers.

Welcome to the new world. You can stage fake protests at town hall meetings, but it goes both ways. If you are a relentless agent of fear, uncertainty and doom, the real mob will target you.
I've always wondered about that.

Since industries like:

-Wal*Mart
-AARP
-Drug Industry
-Insurance Agents

Are all signed on to the President's healthcare bill...

Who exactly is organizing these "fake" protests? Especially considering that the truly violent incidents were done by Union members who mobbed a black man while shouting racial slurs at him.

Nobody is really "organizing" the protests, but FOX news and conservative talk radio do encourage people to go out and raise Hell at these town halls. Not that I'm supporting these idiots in congress, but these protests aren't fully grass roots, that's for sure.


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Response to Glenn Beck loses advertisers 2009-08-15 10:55:52 Reply

People are simply getting angry at him, especially in times like these of major concern. It doesn't even seem like a big deal to me.


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Response to Glenn Beck loses advertisers 2009-08-15 11:24:47 Reply

This newscaster has exposed himself, over and over again, as a guy who has a deep seated hatred for the American people or the American culture. I don't know what it is...

... I'm not saying that he doesn't like Americans.

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Response to Glenn Beck loses advertisers 2009-08-15 11:50:05 Reply

ABOUT a dozen companies have withdrawn their commercials from "Glenn Beck," the Fox News Channel program, after Glenn Beck, the person, said late last month that President Obama was a racist with a "deep-seated hatred for white people or the white culture."

I fail to see what is wrong with this statement. There is audio of Obama refering to his own grandmother as a "typical white woman". He attended a church run by someone who at best used racially charged language. At worst the Rev Wright used language that was the equivalent of what you'll hear at any Ayran church.

... In a statement that echoed the comments of other companies, ConAgra said on Thursday that "we are firmly committed to diversity, and we would like to prevent the potential perception that advertising during this program was an endorsement of the viewpoints shared."

I think there is a danger here. G.W. Bush was called a racist and worse. However he funnelled billions of dollars to Africa for things like AiDS erradication efforts. Hardly something a racist would do. Yes there was Katrina, but that was a total system failure that included a black Mayor failing to prepare adequately for the storm.

Yet calling him (Bush) a racist with about as much proof as Beck has about Obama is okay.

I'm uncomfortable with it being okay to label white people as racist all willy nilly...but a black president cannot have the same charge leveled against him with an equal amount of evidential voracity.

"We have TV today that's very polarizing and controversial," said Donny Deutsch, the advertising executive and occasional host on CNBC and MSNBC, a rival to Fox News.

Last month, Mr. Deutsch listed some of the "Glenn Beck" advertisers and told MSNBC viewers that people who objected to Mr. Beck's remark should write to the chief executives of the companies. In an interview, he said corporate decisions about where to allot ad dollars were the "ultimate check and balance."

This ironic and not a little hypocritcal. Deutsch's network, MSNBC, airs Keith Olberman who is probably more bombastic and polarizing as Glenn Beck and anyone else on Fox.

Also, I have a problem with using Mr Deutsch as a source in this article and it raises questions about Brian Stetler's journalistic judgement. MSNBC is Fox's compitetor and is its bombastic, ideological-baiting equivalent on the Left. Add to it that Mr Deutsch is MSNBC's advertising exec and well poised to present a rhetorical argument for undercutting a competitor. Had I been Mr Stetler (the author) I wouldn't have interviewed just Mr Deutsch, but maybe CNN and ABC as well...or instead.

But he went to the person least capable of presenting an unbiased opinion.

I would comment on the ColorOfChange interest group. But who cares? These groups are a dime a dozen on both sides and in the end don't amount to much.

In the end a few advertisers moving from Beck doesn't matter. They'll come back in a little while when ColorOfChange is satisfied with the publicity they've got. Plus letter writing campaigns work both ways. In this polarized environment, there are just as many people who will boycott advertisers for pulling support from Beck as those who would boycott for supporting him.


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Response to Glenn Beck loses advertisers 2009-08-15 15:14:42 Reply

At 8/15/09 04:20 AM, CassCassXXX wrote:
Nobody is really "organizing" the protests, but FOX news and conservative talk radio do encourage people to go out and raise Hell at these town halls. Not that I'm supporting these idiots in congress, but these protests aren't fully grass roots, that's for sure.

Then I'm wondering where all the complaining is coming from since how is this different from Unions organizing protests?

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Response to Glenn Beck loses advertisers 2009-08-15 16:06:00 Reply

At 8/15/09 03:14 PM, Memorize wrote:
At 8/15/09 04:20 AM, CassCassXXX wrote:
Nobody is really "organizing" the protests, but FOX news and conservative talk radio do encourage people to go out and raise Hell at these town halls. Not that I'm supporting these idiots in congress, but these protests aren't fully grass roots, that's for sure.
Then I'm wondering where all the complaining is coming from since how is this different from Unions organizing protests?

People are complaining because the protestors are becoming out of control, not to mention they're hypocrites for going on about freedom of speech while at the same time shouting down these people from congress who speak at these town meetings. =\


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Response to Glenn Beck loses advertisers 2009-08-15 16:39:30 Reply

i believe Beck has a right to his opinion no matter how much a group of people disagree with it. despite these advertisers pulling their ads from Beck's program he's still pulling in alot of money so it's not like his show will be canceled. I believe the protesters are mainly concerned citizens who finally got the ambition to speak their opinions to their representatives and senators about the healthcare bill. the outrage by the left is based purely on the fact that they can't handle their plan being unpopular.

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Response to Glenn Beck loses advertisers 2009-08-15 17:09:39 Reply

At 8/15/09 04:06 PM, CassCassXXX wrote:
People are complaining because the protestors are becoming out of control, not to mention they're hypocrites for going on about freedom of speech while at the same time shouting down these people from congress who speak at these town meetings. =\

But the only form of actual violence occurred when Union Protesters in support of the healthcare bill assaulted a black man while hurling racial slurs at him which ultimately put him a wheelchair for a short while.

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Response to Glenn Beck loses advertisers 2009-08-16 01:43:18 Reply

At 8/15/09 05:09 PM, Memorize wrote:
But the only form of actual violence occurred when Union Protesters in support of the healthcare bill assaulted a black man while hurling racial slurs at him which ultimately put him a wheelchair for a short while.

1) It was another black guy who said that and hit him, so throw out the racial component.
2) The guy was pushed down and hit maybe once or twice.
3) The guy who's in a wheel chair was walking around without so much as a limp after the incident.

Decry the guy who acted violently, yes. He was wrong.
The other guy is faking the SHIT out of this incident, though.
And then comes the fun part of the story. The guy who got hurt protesting health care reform didn't have health care. And is now begging for money online to pay for his "medical bills."
I've seen the video, this whole thing has turned into a stunt. What isn't shown in the video is what led the guy to get hit in the first place. It isn't shown who swung first, either.


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Response to Glenn Beck loses advertisers 2009-08-16 12:39:39 Reply

At 8/15/09 11:24 AM, awkward-silence wrote: This newscaster has exposed himself, over and over again, as a guy who has a deep seated hatred for the American people or the American culture. I don't know what it is...

... I'm not saying that he doesn't like Americans.

Nah, he's gone on and on about the greatness of America and the values of hard work and self sacrifice on his radio show for years. He's just paranoid about socialism and Iran, to name a few.
The funny thing is that his views and comments haven't really changed much, but now because he's on Fox News rather than Headline News he's instantly demonized. He's actually nothing like Limbaugh or Hannity, at least on his radio show, because he doesn't have the ego.

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Response to Glenn Beck loses advertisers 2009-08-16 12:56:21 Reply

Hate to double post, but you'd be surprised how difficult it is to find a full transcript of Beck's remarks on that day. There are tons of edited videos, most of which omit Beck's remark about Obama attending Jeremiah Wright's church for 20 years. Can anyone provide a complete video link or transcript?

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Response to Glenn Beck loses advertisers 2009-08-16 13:33:13 Reply

At 8/16/09 12:39 PM, adrshepard wrote:
At 8/15/09 11:24 AM, awkward-silence wrote: This newscaster has exposed himself, over and over again, as a guy who has a deep seated hatred for the American people or the American culture. I don't know what it is...

... I'm not saying that he doesn't like Americans.
Nah, he's gone on and on about the greatness of America and the values of hard work and self sacrifice on his radio show for years. He's just paranoid about socialism and Iran, to name a few.
The funny thing is that his views and comments haven't really changed much, but now because he's on Fox News rather than Headline News he's instantly demonized. He's actually nothing like Limbaugh or Hannity, at least on his radio show, because he doesn't have the ego.

I wouldn't say that Rush has an "ego". He's surprisingly humble for such a popular man. There are plenty of "A" list celebs' with much bigger egos than him. =\


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Response to Glenn Beck loses advertisers 2009-08-16 13:33:45 Reply

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Response to Glenn Beck loses advertisers 2009-08-16 13:55:19 Reply

At 8/16/09 01:33 PM, Rig wrote: http://youpeoplewith.ytmnd.com/

lol, he sounds like a guy from Ren And Stimpy.


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Response to Glenn Beck loses advertisers 2009-08-16 13:59:59 Reply

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-au gust-13-2009/glenn-beck-s-operation

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Response to Glenn Beck loses advertisers 2009-08-16 14:05:06 Reply

You realize you give power to these folks by merely mentioning their names, right?


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Response to Glenn Beck loses advertisers 2009-08-16 14:18:36 Reply

At 8/16/09 01:43 AM, HandsomePete wrote:
1) It was another black guy who said that and hit him, so throw out the racial component.

And yet, he was called a racial slur for the sole fact that they didn't agree with him.

I guess that should give me free pass to treat anyone, black or white, like shit because I'm a smaller minority than both of them.

2) The guy was pushed down and hit maybe once or twice.

Yes, because even that doesn't count for assault.

3) The guy who's in a wheel chair was walking around without so much as a limp after the incident.

I never said he couldn't walk.

Decry the guy who acted violently, yes. He was wrong.

You mean despite all that defending you did?

"He ONLY hit him once or twice!"

The other guy is faking the SHIT out of this incident, though.

He gets assaulted... recommended a wheelchair by his doctor... and he's faking?

LOL!

And then comes the fun part of the story. The guy who got hurt protesting health care reform didn't have health care. And is now begging for money online to pay for his "medical bills."

You want to know what's also ironic: He wouldn't have needed money for his medical bills had he not been assaulted by people who were demanding coverage for all.

I've seen the video, this whole thing has turned into a stunt. What isn't shown in the video is what led the guy to get hit in the first place. It isn't shown who swung first, either.

Yeah, never-mind the multiple eye-witnesses or anything.

Well, at least we know that you're perfectly alright with aggravated assault with anyone who dares either protest or disagree.

You're well on your way to being the next Hitler or Stalin!

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Response to Glenn Beck loses advertisers 2009-08-16 16:24:44 Reply

At 8/15/09 02:32 AM, aviewaskewed wrote:
At 8/15/09 02:04 AM, homor wrote: take that Glenn Beck! how dare you have an opinion different from my own!?!
Or maybe how dare you make shit up and wildly distort the truth to suit your own bullshit agenda. But hey, who cares as long as it agrees with your dissent for the people in power right?

Yeah that freedom of speech is a real bastard isn't it. Perhaps the government should just publish only pre approved talking points as to not disturb the peace or the status quo. Or better yet what about the children? God forbid they form an opinion outside of what the glorious state says. It's so nice not to have to do my thinking anymore.

That being said I don't care for Glenn Beck, but he should be allowed to go on his insane rantings.

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Response to Glenn Beck loses advertisers 2009-08-16 16:39:20 Reply

Glenn Beck is a hypocritical, hate-mongering turd, good to see he's getting what's coming to him.


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Response to Glenn Beck loses advertisers 2009-08-16 17:07:24 Reply

Glenn Beck said it himself: If you take everything he says as the gospel truth, you're an idiot. But he's entitled to his opinions and to express them in the media like everyone else is.

That being said though, advertisers can put pressure on a show. I think the only reason Letterman apologized to Palin is because he was getting pressure from his advertisers. Not that he needed to apologize to her, but that's another topic entirely. But that's what happened to Bill Maher after 9/11. He spoke out against what the government was doing, and he lost his advertisers and his show to boot.

Ultimately though, it's up to the viewers. If no one watches Glenn Beck, then he won't have a show.

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Response to Glenn Beck loses advertisers 2009-08-16 21:22:36 Reply

At 8/16/09 05:07 PM, RydiaLockheart wrote: Glenn Beck said it himself: If you take everything he says as the gospel truth, you're an idiot. But he's entitled to his opinions and to express them in the media like everyone else is.
Ultimately though, it's up to the viewers. If no one watches Glenn Beck, then he won't have a show.

Thats the real paradox of a free society isn't it. I'm all about the free market, but when News programs have to make a profit it turns it into infotainment which is the majority of what we have today. Facts get skewed or misrepresented or totally fabricated to keep the target demographic happy with them and mad at everyone else. The unbiased press is a pipe dream.

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Response to Glenn Beck loses advertisers 2009-08-17 00:30:04 Reply

At 8/16/09 02:18 PM, Memorize wrote:
And yet, he was called a racial slur for the sole fact that they didn't agree with him.

Black people call other people black people "nyukka." Get over it.

Yes, because even that doesn't count for assault.

Said it was exaggerated, not innocent.

I never said he couldn't walk.

You said he needed a wheelchair, or else you brought it up for no reason at all.

The other guy is faking the SHIT out of this incident, though.
He gets assaulted... recommended a wheelchair by his doctor... and he's faking?

Show me where he's recommended a wheel chair by a doctor, or rather find me 2 opinions, because he could very easily have had it worked out with whomever he got checked by to exaggerate it.

And then comes the fun part of the story. The guy who got hurt protesting health care reform didn't have health care. And is now begging for money online to pay for his "medical bills."
I've seen the video, this whole thing has turned into a stunt. What isn't shown in the video is what led the guy to get hit in the first place. It isn't shown who swung first, either.
Yeah, never-mind the multiple eye-witnesses or anything.

Again, I've seen the video. Which eye-witnesses are you talking about, the guy's friends?

Well, at least we know that you're perfectly alright with aggravated assault with anyone who dares either protest or disagree.

Once again, since you don't get it, my problem is that he exaggerated his injuries and has been caught doing so for political gains.

You're well on your way to being the next Hitler or Stalin!

Nazi reference, eh? Lazy, and auto-fail


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Response to Glenn Beck loses advertisers 2009-08-17 01:29:08 Reply

At 8/17/09 12:30 AM, HandsomePete wrote:
Black people call other people black people "nyukka." Get over it.

I am over it, apparently you aren't though since you have to spell it so stupidly.

Said it was exaggerated, not innocent.

Yeah, that's why you had to say "ONLY once or twice!, GEEZ!"

You said he needed a wheelchair, or else you brought it up for no reason at all.

Wasn't he recommended a wheelchair?

D'uh!

How's life there in stupid-ville?

Show me where he's recommended a wheel chair by a doctor, or rather find me 2 opinions, because he could very easily have had it worked out with whomever he got checked by to exaggerate it.

You're the one making the assumption he's faking and never really needed one (regardless of whether or not it eased him pain).

YOU prove it.

Again, I've seen the video. Which eye-witnesses are you talking about, the guy's friends?

There were several besides his friend.

Huzzah!

Once again, since you don't get it, my problem is that he exaggerated his injuries and has been caught doing so for political gains.

Let's try this again with the link I posted...

FICTION: Gladney used the wheelchair as a prop at the protest to exaggerate his injuries.

FACT: Gladney's attorney told the St. Louis Post-Dispatch the day before that Gladney suffered bruises and sprains. Gladney was on pain medication and could not walk without pain due to the bruising and his sprained knee. The temperature that day was a sweltering 97 degrees. Gladney never stated, nor tried to give the the impression that he was injured to a greater extent than he was. Gladney used to wheelchair due to his pain, the fact that he was under heavy medication, and as a precautionary measure to prevent him from falling down during the protest, especially considering how hot it was that day.

FICTION: Gladney and/or his attorney asked for donations to help with his medical expenses at the protest.

FACT: Gladney arrived at the protest and his attorney announced to the crowd that Gladney wanted to thank everyone for their support. Gladney thanked everyone by giving out 300 "Don't Tread on Me" flags. The protestors responded spontaneously by giving back to Gladney. Once people began giving money for the flags, St. Louis Tea Party leader, Bill Hennessy, innocently misstated that the money was going to pay for Gladney's medical expenses.

So, no only where you wrong on his use of a wheel-chair, you were also wrong on his demanding money.

Way to go, smart one!

Nazi reference, eh? Lazy, and auto-fail

Considering you're an idiot whose defending an assault because you disagree with the guy who isn't even a Registered Republican, Political Activist, or even attended a Tea-Party all while being wrong not only on the assault, but his use of a wheel-chair and where he's getting money...

I'd say you deserve a Nazi reference.

Dumbass racist.

(lol, it's kind of fun using the typical liberal attack method)

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Response to Glenn Beck loses advertisers 2009-08-19 16:02:18 Reply

At 8/15/09 04:39 PM, All-American-Badass wrote: i believe Beck has a right to his opinion no matter how much a group of people disagree with it. despite these advertisers pulling their ads from Beck's program he's still pulling in alot of money so it's not like his show will be canceled. I believe the protesters are mainly concerned citizens who finally got the ambition to speak their opinions to their representatives and senators about the healthcare bill. the outrage by the left is based purely on the fact that they can't handle their plan being unpopular.

See, the thing is, Beck doesnt actually HAVE an opinion of his own. A while back(when he was still on CNN) he had some surgery thing or shit and was talking about how bad our healthcare system was and how it just shoves people out the door as fast as possible. Now that he's on FOX he says our healthcare system is awesome. Glenn Beck contradicts himself far more than even the other reporters on FOX, which is saying something.


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Response to Glenn Beck loses advertisers 2009-08-20 22:11:23 Reply

At 8/19/09 04:02 PM, Likescheese wrote: See, the thing is, Beck doesnt actually HAVE an opinion of his own. A while back(when he was still on CNN) he had some surgery thing or shit and was talking about how bad our healthcare system was and how it just shoves people out the door as fast as possible. Now that he's on FOX he says our healthcare system is awesome. Glenn Beck contradicts himself far more than even the other reporters on FOX, which is saying something.

He still has the right to say what is on his mind even if he contradicts it 20 times a day. it'll just give more for the people at the daily show and the colbert report to have a field day on it. And i dont think he thinks our healthcare is awesome, he just thinks universal healthcare is a very bad idea