ubuntu

[Corpus-Delicti]

ok so my friend said to download ubuntu , he's like, o ull love it1! sp im asking, should i download ubuntu? is it good? how good is the speed, is it better than XP? i wanna know the facts before i download it...

[Russ3ll]

At 8/14/09 09:54 PM, pieplane wrote: ok so my friend said to download ubuntu , he's like, o ull love it1! sp im asking, should i download ubuntu? is it good? how good is the speed, is it better than XP? i wanna know the facts before i download it...

No. I've had before and if you're happy with XP then don't get it. Unless of you course you want to have no game compatibility, barely any software compatibility, and be confused as shit whenever you try installing anything.

[JKMonkey]

its much safer to use because virus makers dont make many viruses for it because of it's lack of users, and its much more stable than MAC or Windows, I would recommend it.

[DragonFyre9]

Much better than windows, it runs faster and has no viruses, download it.

[Russ3ll]

At 8/14/09 09:56 PM, JKMonkey wrote: and its much more stable than MAC or Windows

If you know what you're doing. Also, Windows seems to be pretty stable for me.

[Leidolfr]

At 8/14/09 09:54 PM, pieplane wrote: ok so my friend said to download ubuntu , he's like, o ull love it1! sp im asking, should i download ubuntu? is it good? how good is the speed, is it better than XP? i wanna know the facts before i download it...

Theres nothing wrong with XP, so id just stick with that, if ya had vista....thats different

[RaptorJesus]

I used a few different linux distributions from around 2000 to around 2006 because I got fed up with Windows but could not afford a Mac.

I can say that as a desktop (which was mostly what I would use the system as) I liked Ubuntu the best but it's got some headaches. I never had a good experience updating.

Whenever Ubuntu updated some libraries would always get confused and the system would be looking for outdated stuff or vice-versa. Linux is great if you have the time & patience to set it up how you want it.

But after getting a Mac I can say I'm happy to never revisit Linux as a desktop system. And I hope Windows burns in hell.

[Corpus-Delicti]

At 8/14/09 09:57 PM, Russ3ll wrote:

At 8/14/09 09:56 PM, JKMonkey wrote: and its much more stable than MAC or Windows

If you know what you're doing. Also, Windows seems to be pretty stable for me.

well my friend said that you dont teed to know what your doing, because the basics are already programmed, plus i dont really play games on my, pc, cept for the stuff on NG, all my pc really is for is internet and music/ mp3's . so would it still be good for me?

[firemaker60]

You can get Ubuntu if you want to, but understand that you'll lose a lot of compatibility with Windows (meaning: you won't be able to use .exe files), and even if you get the Windows compatibility layer, WINE, you'll still have problems with programs.

You should only really use Ubuntu as a secondary OS, on a separate partition, if you know how to. If not, just stick with XP.

[Russ3ll]

At 8/14/09 10:01 PM, pieplane wrote: well my friend said that you dont teed to know what your doing, because the basics are already programmed, plus i dont really play games on my, pc, cept for the stuff on NG, all my pc really is for is internet and music/ mp3's . so would it still be good for me?

If you can figure out how to install Limewire than sure. It does boot a lot faster than Windows, and just for web-browsing I guess I would recommend it.

[RaptorJesus]

At 8/14/09 10:01 PM, pieplane wrote: well my friend said that you dont teed to know what your doing, because the basics are already programmed, plus i dont really play games on my, pc, cept for the stuff on NG, all my pc really is for is internet and music/ mp3's . so would it still be good for me?

You do need to know stuff. In order for flash to work good you need a videocard that Linux supports direct rendering for. Like if it's ATI or NVIDIA you need to install a 3rd party driver to get the most out of it. Other than that, internet browsing, listening to MP3's works pretty well out of the box with Ubuntu.

My recommendation though is to just get a Mac. The Mac OS is UNIX based and has the 3rd party support that the linux distributions lack. And you don't get the headaches of library issues in Linux.

Do not listen to these guys that say XP or Vista are fine. If YOU'RE unhappy, switch to something else, fuck what they think.

[Corpus-Delicti]

At 8/14/09 10:07 PM, mrgreg846 wrote:

well fuck it, ill stay with windows if its THAT complicated, LOL

[Snake-Arsenic]

At 8/15/09 12:00 AM, kikomannnn wrote: I just bought a laptop with Vista installed on it.

Is there anyway I can load this Ubuntu shit onto their and wipe out vista, or is that a major no no?

Did they supply all the software and drivers you would need to reinstall Vista and everything that came with the computer?

[FattyWhale]

If you are happy with XP, stick with it. Ubuntu (and any other linux distro) has a steep learning curve.

[Russ3ll]

At 8/14/09 10:07 PM, mrgreg846 wrote: Do not listen to these guys that say XP or Vista are fine. If YOU'RE unhappy, switch to something else, fuck what they think.

The fact that you just recommended to him a Mac, computers with THE most overpriced hardware, and THE worst fucking OS ever, over XP makes me chuckle.

At 8/15/09 12:00 AM, kikomannnn wrote: I just bought a laptop with Vista installed on it.

Is there anyway I can load this Ubuntu shit onto their and wipe out vista, or is that a major no no?

If you can find Linux versions of your drivers.

[RaptorJesus]

At 8/15/09 12:26 AM, Russ3ll wrote:

At 8/14/09 10:07 PM, mrgreg846 wrote: Do not listen to these guys that say XP or Vista are fine. If YOU'RE unhappy, switch to something else, fuck what they think.

The fact that you just recommended to him a Mac, computers with THE most overpriced hardware, and THE worst fucking OS ever, over XP makes me chuckle.

That sounds like a loaded statement. Mac hardware is great, and priced reasonably nowdays. I will say that in the past they were a bit pricey but you get what you pay for.

Plus since you gave no reasons why it's the worst why should anyone listen to you? For all we know you've never even tried Mac OS and are just starting an OS flame war.

The way I see it is there are different OS's for different people. Mac OS for people that like to get stuff done. Linux for people that like to tinker a lot with settings and customization and/or are on a budget.

And Windows for kids that base an OS' success by what games it has, people that need it for compatibility for something linux can't, or people that just don't ever explore other OS's so they're satisfied with it (kinda like you probably).

[DevourerJay]

Kazimir knows about that stuff more than anyone else i know...

[Sekhem]

At 8/15/09 12:21 AM, milinko959 wrote: If you are happy with XP, stick with it. Ubuntu (and any other linux distro) has a steep learning curve.

This, and if you're asking about it's speed compared to XP it's pretty well established you shouldn't be using any form of linux.

[HandsomePete]

Look, I just downloaded Ubuntu, too.

[RaptorJesus]

Another option would be to use VMWare or Virtual PC and try out different Linux distributions that way so you can take your time and decide before wiping out Windows from your system.

I think it's safe to say he's less than happy with XP since he's checking out other Operating Systems. Afterall if an OS isn't operating then what good is it? I'm with you guys though, if you ARE happy with XP and this is just your friend trying to get you to switch then staying with XP is best.

But if you're NOT happy then get out & try Mac OSX (what I'd pick), Ubuntu, Gentoo, whatever you wanna try. Sticking with a shitty OS is like staying in a shitty relationship, staying is the worst thing you can do if you're unhappy.

Just be safe with Linux & read the documentation, Ubuntu and Gentoo have wonderful documentation that will educate you.

[Russ3ll]

At 8/15/09 01:07 AM, mrgreg846 wrote: That sounds like a loaded statement. Mac hardware is great, and priced reasonably nowdays. I will say that in the past they were a bit pricey but you get what you pay for.

Oh word? Let's see how much this Mac will cost.
20 inch display
2.66ghz Intel Dual Core
2gbs of memory
320gb hdd
Nvidia Gefore 9400m

How much does that Mac cost? 1200 dollars. I shit you not.

Let's see what you can get for that money from newegg.

20 inch display
Intel Core 2 Duo E8400(3.0GHz)
4GB of memory
1TB hdd
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 285

For the same price. I shit you not.

Still fairly priced?

Plus since you gave no reasons why it's the worst why should anyone listen to you? For all we know you've never even tried Mac OS and are just starting an OS flame war.

I used it every school day last year, and I've used it before that also.

The way I see it is there are different OS's for different people. Mac OS for people that like to get stuff done. Linux for people that like to tinker a lot with settings and customization and/or are on a budget.

You're right. Linux is for real tech savy people who want to get the most out of their hardware and need to do advanced things such as compile and what not. Mac OS is for fucking faggots who care about their social status more than about getting shit done. They don't give a shit about compatibility because it's cooler to have a Mac.

And Windows for kids that base an OS' success by what games it has, people that need it for compatibility for something linux can't,

More like Windows is for people that don't need to tweak with everything and compile kernals, or want the majority of the software on the market. And yes, Windows is good for gaming, seeing as it has the most compatibility.

or people that just don't ever explore other OS's so they're satisfied with it (kinda like you probably).

Kid, I've used Linux, Windows, and Mac, I've explored.

[RaptorJesus]

This will be my final thoughts on this thread as it's becoming a flame war thanks to you.

At 8/15/09 01:37 AM, Russ3ll wrote: How much does that Mac cost? 1200 dollars. I shit you not.

$1200 is not bad.

Let's see what you can get for that money from newegg.

20 inch display
Intel Core 2 Duo E8400(3.0GHz)
4GB of memory
1TB hdd
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 285

Yeah but then you gotta put it together. Then what if you need support? Dealing with all the different warrantees from different manufacturers? Plus even if you do have tech support it's in INDIA!

You know who you get from Apple Support? An American. Plus resale value is way better with a mac than some hodgepodge of parts you bought from newegg to make a PC.

I used it every school day last year, and I've used it before that also.

So basically you've used it as a limited user, not as an administrator with privileges. I doubt your experience with OSX is a fair representation.

Kid, I've used Linux, Windows, and Mac, I've explored.

Explored with a blindfold on it sounds like. Plus most creativity software comes out on Mac. Final Cut, Garageband, ProTools, Photoshop, Lightroom.... Just about any software that helps people create stuff either only runs on Mac or runs better on a Mac.

Lets just stop this from becoming a flame war and be adults about this. OS choice is a personal thing based on the user's experience. And while no one OS is perfect, there are differen't OS for different people.

That's my 2 cents, if you wanna be a 5 year old and carry on your non-constructive flame war you can do it now because I'm not reading this thread.

[142201]

If you're using it for music, I'd have to say no. There are no good library programs for it. Songbird is the best one I found, but it's kind of slow and buggy. I'm still searching for the equal of Windows Media Player. The Word-Processors also suck. I have Ubuntu and love it, though. I would suggest trying the dual-boot first, see how you like it. Get your friend to install Flash and Java for you though, cause it's a PAIN IN THE ASS to fuck around with the Shell.

WHATEVER YOU DO, STAY AWAY FROM KDE.

[GoldenShuriken]

Everyone stop complaining. Windows works fine, It's fast enough, it doesnt really crash often, and get a virus scanner to get rid of viruses. Easy fixed

[Sekhem]

At 8/15/09 01:56 AM, 142201 wrote: If you're using it for music, I'd have to say no. There are no good library programs for it.

What the fuck? Amarok easily rivals iTunes. I'd probably use it over iTunes if it was ported to Windows in fact.

[yurgenburgen]

It's good but if you're happy with XP then don't bother. It takes some getting used to and also you'll find that there might be certain programs you like that aren't compatible with Ubuntu.

[Russ3ll]

At 8/15/09 01:53 AM, mrgreg846 wrote: Stuff.

You know what, I'm gonna be mature and just end this. But I'd like to say that the computer I posted was pre-built, not just parts. Also, Photoshop and the whole creative suite runs on Windows.

[Deadly-Shadow]

If you make a Ubuntu boot disc you'll be able to try out the operating system without actually installing it onto your computer. I would suggest trying that out, then you'll be able to see if you like it or not. Also, you could always dual-boot, that way you won't have to choose between Windows or Ubuntu.

[CogSpin]

My best advice would be to test out Ubuntu from a memory stick/CD before properly installing it.

Or, you can try Puppy Linux. It's immensely fast.

[RaptorJesus]

At 8/15/09 01:12 PM, Russ3ll wrote: Stuff.

Ok I said I was done but I lied lol. Listen you little 16 year old Microsoft fanboy.

Just because you don't like Apple doesn't mean you need to make up stuff about it. Macs are not about being cool or chic, and definitely not "for faggots" like you put it. Apple just makes good products all around and the stats show it.

Apple trumps competition in customer satisfaction.

So deal with it.

I gave Windows it's dues, Linux too. It's all kind of a niche market. You're just a little 16 year old fanboy that can't recognize they're all good in some ways.