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Response to American Football Discussion Oct. 9th, 2012 @ 10:01 PM Reply

At 10/9/12 01:57 PM, ZJ wrote: New topic: The Texans are supposed to be the newest #1 AFC Super Bowl Spot contender. the year they make it. They look really strong and barring any injuries

That's the key, barring any major injuries to key players. Brian Cushing is out with a torn ACL, which is big, but it shouldn't affect their defense that much, but if Schaub goes down again, then there is no way they make it to the Super Bowl. I still think that New England is the de facto measuring stick of the AFC, and if anyone in that conference want to make it to the SB, then most likely they would have to beat them, either in Foxborough or wherever else in the championship game.

Of course, the AFC is a shadow of what it was 5 years ago as a conference, so you can make a decent case for the Ravens or Texans making it to the Super Bowl in the AFC.


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Response to American Football Discussion Oct. 13th, 2012 @ 03:59 PM Reply

Just wanted to say that texas fucking sucks.
I thought OU/texas would be much closer but hanging 63 on the horns was something unreal.


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Response to American Football Discussion Oct. 14th, 2012 @ 10:58 AM Reply

At 10/13/12 03:59 PM, reverend wrote:
unreal.

Lol.

Also, Ohio University continues to be undefeated at 7-0 with only a bunch of sub-par MAC teams left to play in the regular season (Yeah, I know my Miami RedHawks aren't that good, I've come to terms with it). I'm honestly thinking they could go undefeated this season. Will that give them a BCS Ranking though? They've only managed to beat teams in their own crappy conference, some unspectacular foes from other conferences, and a neutered Penn State....


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Response to American Football Discussion Oct. 14th, 2012 @ 05:53 PM Reply

At 10/14/12 10:58 AM, ZJ wrote:
At 10/13/12 03:59 PM, reverend wrote:
Also, Ohio University continues to be undefeated at 7-0 with only a bunch of sub-par MAC teams left to play in the regular season (Yeah, I know my Miami RedHawks aren't that good, I've come to terms with it). I'm honestly thinking they could go undefeated this season. Will that give them a BCS Ranking though? They've only managed to beat teams in their own crappy conference, some unspectacular foes from other conferences, and a neutered Penn State....

They really shouldn't, but they probably will if the do go undefeated because of the feel-good aspect of the story for Solich and the team in general. The MAC is a piss-poor conference overall, so that might hurt their chances of going to a BCS bowl game, much less competing against a Big 12 or SEC runner-up in said game where Ohio will most likely be outmatched badly. If OU does make it, then they can troll Buckeye fans that they're going to the BCS bowl game and OSU can't. {don't know how long that'll last, but I'm sure that they'll milk it for all it's worth.}

Oh, and before I forget, WTF Bengals? A shitty Cleveland team decided now to play well against us that they couldn't do for anyone else before and probably after. {Raiders and Chiefs are probable exceptions} I just know that NG's Skip Bayless is jumping for joy.


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Response to American Football Discussion Oct. 14th, 2012 @ 11:36 PM Reply

Can anyone explain to me when a Team is down by a lot of points in Football why some teams just give up?

Houston Texans keep making short passes the past 10 minutes of this game. When the only way they could come back is if they threw more long passes. Are their quarterbacks not capable of throwing long accurate passes or are they afraid of the quarterbacks pulling something in their arm or getting hurt some how? I don't get it, I don't like how teams just give up. They can't win a game throwing short passes when they're so far behind... What sense does that make?


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Response to American Football Discussion Oct. 14th, 2012 @ 11:51 PM Reply

At 10/14/12 10:58 AM, ZJ wrote: Also, Ohio University continues to be undefeated at 7-0 with only a bunch of sub-par MAC teams left to play in the regular season (Yeah, I know my Miami RedHawks aren't that good, I've come to terms with it). I'm honestly thinking they could go undefeated this season. Will that give them a BCS Ranking though? They've only managed to beat teams in their own crappy conference, some unspectacular foes from other conferences, and a neutered Penn State....

I find it funny that Ohio is ranked and Texas isn't but you know if the two played each other that it won't even be close. If you are asking if they will get a BSC bid then not likely. Their strength of schedule is way too week with out a Top 25 listed in their schedule. You'll need to play at least one/two superb teams to go the Boise State route to the BCS.


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Response to American Football Discussion Oct. 15th, 2012 @ 12:13 AM Reply

At 10/14/12 11:51 PM, reverend wrote:
I find it funny that Ohio is ranked and Texas isn't but you know if the two played each other that it won't even be close. If you are asking if they will get a BSC bid then not likely. Their strength of schedule is way too week with out a Top 25 listed in their schedule. You'll need to play at least one/two superb teams to go the Boise State route to the BCS.

True. I was just curious if this season is gonna go anywhere significant for them. Sports Illustrated just ran an article on their success.

Also: Anyone think the undefeated Falcons will match Green Bay's 13-0 start last season? I don't see it happening, but I've been wrong before. I attribute their success to luck more than them being a powerhouse like the Packers...


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Response to American Football Discussion Oct. 15th, 2012 @ 08:09 AM Reply

At 10/14/12 11:29 PM, Travis wrote:
At 10/14/12 05:53 PM, orangebomb wrote: Oh, and before I forget, WTF Bengals? A shitty Cleveland team decided now to play well against us that they couldn't do for anyone else before and probably after. {Raiders and Chiefs are probable exceptions} I just know that NG's Skip Bayless is jumping for joy.
Ravens game came down to a final play. Eagles game came down to a final drive.

So what? You still lost those games. The difference between those 2 games and yesterday is that Weeden and the receiving corps now decided to play instead of giving up or find a way to blow it in the end. Maybe if they did that more often, then no one would trash the Browns so much.

Facts... get yours straight.

You're still 1-5, so your facts are irrelevant.


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Response to American Football Discussion Oct. 15th, 2012 @ 11:45 AM Reply

Who do you think the NFC East best team is as of right now?

New York Giants do great against everyone not in their DIVISION! Which is actually great for them since everyone else in their division is overrated and trash. I see the Giants winning this division either 9-7 or 10-6. With Philadelphia Phonies and Dallas Cowgirls probably being 8-8 or even 6-10 this year. What about the Redskins? They sometimes look like an offensive force but at other times their defense looks so questionable that can anyone see them coming back and taking the division?


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Response to American Football Discussion Oct. 15th, 2012 @ 10:28 PM Reply

At 10/15/12 01:30 PM, Travis wrote:
At 10/15/12 08:09 AM, orangebomb wrote:
Cry about how we suck some more, after we beat you.

Ok, you got us once, in a day where old man Weeden and the rest of the team decided not to suck. This argument is over, I don't know why I bothered in the first place.

Getting that out of the way, everyone in the AFC East is 3-3 as of now. {as well as much of the AFC for that matter} I think to myself, doesn't anyone want to win that division? New England should've ran away with the division by now, but somehow they keep finding ways to lose by the slimmest of margins, it's almost baffling.


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Response to American Football Discussion Oct. 19th, 2012 @ 02:20 AM Reply

At 10/15/12 11:45 AM, TheKlown wrote: Who do you think the NFC East best team is as of right now?

New York Giants do great against everyone not in their DIVISION! Which is actually great for them since everyone else in their division is overrated and trash. I see the Giants winning this division either 9-7 or 10-6. With Philadelphia Phonies and Dallas Cowgirls probably being 8-8 or even 6-10 this year. What about the Redskins? They sometimes look like an offensive force but at other times their defense looks so questionable that can anyone see them coming back and taking the division?

The sky is not falling in Philly. They are still the best team in the division and soon enough they will be showing it. When you play as badly as they have on offense and still manage a 3-3 record you know you have something on defense. That in itself wouldn't mean much though if it wasn't for the fact that we already know Philly has a potentially prolific offense. You can cry about Vick all you want but the offensive woes of the eagles come down of five shoulders. Their O-Line was DREADFUL these first 6 weeks. With Castillo fired the eagles might just have enough to throw some fire under their bellies and get their act together.

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Response to American Football Discussion Oct. 19th, 2012 @ 01:16 PM Reply

Bears.

That is all.


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Response to American Football Discussion Oct. 21st, 2012 @ 04:13 PM Reply

Some game, I might have lost few years from my lifespan from watching the last drives. Gotta love Eli and Cruz, especially in this critical time when it was somewhat least expected.

Still the Redskins should be happy, at least their QB position is secure barring injury.


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Response to American Football Discussion Oct. 21st, 2012 @ 04:40 PM Reply

Why have the last 2 teams that have played The Saints have gotten bad calls that ended up costing them?

What gives? So a Tampa Bay Player is allowed to be pushed out of bounds but if he comes back in and catches the football it's not a touchdown? That doesn't make any sense what so ever. :(

And didn't The Chargers get screwed on a call too that cost them a potential win against The Saints?

Why does it seem like the Officials are huge fans of The Saints? Wasn't there also a really bad call in the Green Bay Packers game that almost helped The Saints win the game? I remember talking about it a couple weeks ago on this forum


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Response to American Football Discussion Oct. 21st, 2012 @ 05:36 PM Reply

At 10/21/12 04:13 PM, Idiot-Finder wrote: Some game, I might have lost few years from my lifespan from watching the last drives. Gotta love Eli and Cruz, especially in this critical time when it was somewhat least expected.

Still the Redskins should be happy, at least their QB position is secure barring injury.

We're lucky the Skins turned the ball over so much today, we'd be in second place otherwise. I feel that though, that interception after the RGIII fumble almost gave me a stroke. Griffin's such a talented fuck.

At 10/21/12 04:40 PM, TheKlown wrote: Why have the last 2 teams that have played The Saints have gotten bad calls that ended up costing them?

What gives? So a Tampa Bay Player is allowed to be pushed out of bounds but if he comes back in and catches the football it's not a touchdown? That doesn't make any sense what so ever. :(

I always thought the rule was that once you're out of bounds, you're ineligible to play the ball. Maybe that's just on special teams.


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Response to American Football Discussion Oct. 21st, 2012 @ 06:17 PM Reply

At 10/21/12 05:36 PM, Head-Full-Of-Acid wrote:
I always thought the rule was that once you're out of bounds, you're ineligible to play the ball. Maybe that's just on special teams.

He was pushed out of bounds by the defense tho(which should be considered illegal unless Football has dumb rules).


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Response to American Football Discussion Oct. 22nd, 2012 @ 11:22 AM Reply

The Officials didn't explain this and probably should have.

Unfortunately for the Buccaneers, Freeman rolled out of the pocket, which eliminates the possibility for an illegal contact penalty:


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Response to American Football Discussion Oct. 22nd, 2012 @ 11:47 AM Reply

Did Cincinnati Bengals embarrass themselves last night losing to an injured/old Steelers team?

Wow, just wow... Not only are The Steelers old/injured past their prime but they made so many mistakes last night that they really tried giving this game to the Bengals. But The Bengals were like "No, we don't want to be Winners we like being known as "The Bungles". I'm not a huge fan of Bengals, but I know what Bengals fans want just like Eagles fans, one Super Bowl but how are they suppose to get to a Super Bowl if they can't win games that help them get to the playoffs?


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Response to American Football Discussion Oct. 22nd, 2012 @ 12:44 PM Reply

Why did The Eagles fire Juan Castillo, when the only good thing about The Eagles is their defense?

Most of The Eagles games have been kept to low scoring games because of our defense, so why in the hell did they fire our defensive coordinator?


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Response to American Football Discussion Oct. 22nd, 2012 @ 07:36 PM Reply

At 10/22/12 11:47 AM, TheKlown wrote: Did Cincinnati Bengals embarrass themselves last night losing to an injured/old Steelers team?

Unfortunately, yes. I suppose the only good news is that the AFC is so bad right now, that a 8-8 or even a 7-9 team could make the playoffs in that conference. Don't know how we can get there without improving our defense beyond the pass rush.

Oh, and the Browns coming out flat again against the Colts. I swear, they only play well against the Bengals {and sometimes the Bills} and everywhere else, they couldn't do shit. It's baffling why they don't play like they did against Cincy for all 16 games, maybe then they wouldn't be trashed by everyone else. Never mind the gaul they have thinking that they can go 11-5 with that horrid roster. It will be embarrassing if the we gave the Browns their only win of this season, although the Chiefs and Raiders might be gimmes for them.


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Response to American Football Discussion Oct. 27th, 2012 @ 08:35 PM Reply

At 10/14/12 10:58 AM, ZJ wrote:
Also, Ohio University continues to be undefeated at 7-0 with only a bunch of sub-par MAC teams left to play in the regular season (Yeah, I know my Miami RedHawks aren't that good, I've come to terms with it). I'm honestly thinking they could go undefeated this season. Will that give them a BCS Ranking though? They've only managed to beat teams in their own crappy conference, some unspectacular foes from other conferences, and a neutered Penn State....

So much for going undefeated. Looks like my RedHawks finally came through with a big win...

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/miami-ohio-23-ohio-20-234005315 --ncaaf.html


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Response to American Football Discussion Oct. 27th, 2012 @ 11:41 PM Reply

At 10/27/12 08:35 PM, ZJ wrote:
At 10/14/12 10:58 AM, ZJ wrote:
So much for going undefeated. Looks like my RedHawks finally came through with a big win...

And with that, the last BCS buster goes down. Can't really say that they had much of a chance to begin with, if at all, but for what's it worth, they still can be 12-1 and win the MAC conference outright, and that's a pretty damn good season either way you slice it.

Speaking of bad days, Oklahoma took an ass whooping at home by Notre Dame. {so much for my upset pick} I know that there is still some football left to be played and the numbers to be crunched and so on, but I'm starting to believe that Notre Dame must be destined by a higher power to collide against 'Bama in the national title game. All the breaks seem to go their way, and Te'o is unstoppable at linebacker.

I mean, when you beat Michigan {facepalm}, Stanford, Oklahoma and quite possibly USC at their place, it's kind of hard to say that they don't get the bid for the crystal ball at this point.


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Response to American Football Discussion Oct. 27th, 2012 @ 11:52 PM Reply

At 10/22/12 12:44 PM, TheKlown wrote: Why did The Eagles fire Juan Castillo, when the only good thing about The Eagles is their defense?

Most of The Eagles games have been kept to low scoring games because of our defense, so why in the hell did they fire our defensive coordinator?

Because the defense is completely missing big plays. All the money tied up in the players on the D and they go 3 weeks without a sack and can't force turnovers. Castillo's blitzes were horrendous. Also, 2 games in a row they've allowed teams to march right down the field on them in the 4th quarter to lose. The defense isn't absent of blame.

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Response to American Football Discussion Oct. 28th, 2012 @ 12:03 AM Reply

Fucking Irish.

And Harden was traded as well (didn't want to bump the NBA thread).


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Response to American Football Discussion Oct. 28th, 2012 @ 12:33 AM Reply

At 10/28/12 12:03 AM, reverend wrote: Fucking Irish.

And Harden was traded as well (didn't want to bump the NBA thread).

Looks like the Rockets are trying to be serious with a young team, could bode well for them.

Meanwhile, the Badgers blew another game. I really didn't think O'brien was THAT bad but he managed to completely sabotage Wisconsin it's insane. Just when we were getting back to respectable Stavey takes a boo boo to the hand and everything falls apart.

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Response to American Football Discussion Oct. 28th, 2012 @ 01:56 AM Reply

That game in Norman was really close, came down to a call that could've gone either way.

The Irish defense has been fantastic this season.

With that said, it's not very likely they'll make it to the Championship game. Both Kansas State and Oregon are on route to undefeated seasons (particularly Kansas State), and it's hard to imagine them being picked over the previously mentioned. It'll be interseting to see how the season wraps up.


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Response to American Football Discussion Oct. 28th, 2012 @ 03:12 PM Reply

At 10/28/12 01:56 AM, Head-Full-Of-Acid wrote: With that said, it's not very likely they'll make it to the Championship game. Both Kansas State and Oregon are on route to undefeated seasons (particularly Kansas State), and it's hard to imagine them being picked over the previously mentioned. It'll be interseting to see how the season wraps up.

Kansas State is tremendously overrated, they are every year. They will blow their shot at some point and if they don't then they'll get embarrassed by Alabama. Oregon looks good though, and watching them play Alabama could be exciting.

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Response to American Football Discussion Oct. 28th, 2012 @ 04:25 PM Reply

How badly are the New Orleans Saints going to destroy those Philadelphia Frauds?

Yeah, go Saints! Crush that ghetto hoodrat trash of a team! GO NEW ORLEANS! YOU'RE THE BEST NEW ORLEANS! BEAT THAT HOODRAT TEAM! I'm done with this team, 26 years of pain.


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Response to American Football Discussion Oct. 29th, 2012 @ 10:24 AM Reply

Bad year to be an Auburn fan #comebackCam. I am absolutely dreading the Alabama game this year and think that Chizik needs to get his ass fired and we should take up Bobby Petrino. He may be a bad role model, but he is a damn fine coach.

Also, I am starting to get into the NFL and since Alabama has no pro team I decided to be a Panthers fan.


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Response to American Football Discussion Oct. 30th, 2012 @ 03:59 PM Reply

At 10/28/12 04:25 PM, TheKlown wrote: How badly are the New Orleans Saints going to destroy those Philadelphia Frauds?

Yeah, go Saints! Crush that ghetto hoodrat trash of a team! GO NEW ORLEANS! YOU'RE THE BEST NEW ORLEANS! BEAT THAT HOODRAT TEAM! I'm done with this team, 26 years of pain.

On the bright side, this is the first year that I've actually believed Reid will be fired.