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Posted at: 8/11/09 09:29 PM

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There is a time in every mans life, when he wonders "What the fuck?"
Well my dear friends who I have no relation to what-so-ever - This is the time of my life, where I have come to the very same state.
I am at the peak of sanity, at the edge that allows me to jump into the sea of frustration - hell, I'm confused.

Now, yes, this is another thread complaining about the voting system.
No, I do not have anything to add that can help to said complaint.
Is this useful? No. Entertaining? Perhaps.

I am one of the many recently approved authors to newgrounds, as well as one of the recently frustrated, flabbergasted and fairly annoyed authors of newgrounds.
Because as I previously mentioned - I've submitted songs to NG.
Oh yes, three of them - to be exact, and by the end of this thread - that number should increase to four.

You see, in my blissful ignorance - I voted four on my three pieces.
I believed that there would be some room for improvement, yet I wanted the community's opinion on the matter, so they were submitted.
And the very next day - I checked upon how my songs were doing, and to my utter surprise - and devestation , the first song I had submitted had now reached its peak at glorious 0.74.

Now, I am not a vengeful man, nor one with the identities of said zero-voters.
But this does tend to tick me off - and confuse me.
Because my songs, bad as they may be - should NOT deserve such a score.

So newgrounds, as I said in the opening lines of this thread.
I've reached the point where I have nothing left to say but these three words:

What, the, fuck?


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Posted at: 8/11/09 09:32 PM

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At 8/11/09 09:29 PM, Sentinel wrote: Because my songs, bad as they may be - should NOT deserve such a score.

Except that's not for you to decide.

Stop spamming the forums, it'll just attract more zero votes.


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Posted at: 8/11/09 09:38 PM

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I know zerovoting sucks...I had a long rant about it about a month ago...

Although it sucks, we can't have the forum filled with zerobomb threads.
All of those should go HERE


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Posted at: 8/11/09 09:41 PM

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At 8/11/09 09:38 PM, TMM43 wrote: I know zerovoting sucks...I had a long rant about it about a month ago...

Although it sucks, we can't have the forum filled with zerobomb threads.
All of those should go HERE

Thanks for the link!
At least someone is being constructive.


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Posted at: 8/11/09 11:05 PM

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You should just not care about scores :D

Its what I do, since they don't make a smidgen of a difference.


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Posted at: 8/11/09 11:18 PM

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At 8/11/09 09:32 PM, loansindi wrote:


Except that's not for you to decide.

What IS for you to decide is what to do with the time that is given to you.

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Posted at: 8/12/09 03:14 AM

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Take a look on my Favoritelist, more precise, on my Favorite Audio Artists. You'll see there some awesome musicians, like Bad Man Ink, Darkside, Fuoco, Winterwind...etc...
All of those have ridiculous low scores >:((

But that's it, deal with it. Make a group of friends and go voting on what you consider good, 5 bomb your favorite authors.
Keeping in mind that the "fair share" payments are accordingly to the traffic you get, even 0-bombers kind of helps. They have to open your page to vote on it ;)


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Posted at: 8/12/09 04:38 AM

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This goes back to my rant on Newgrounds being exactly like America.

Full of idiots.

And it has it's own mainstream.

And it's funny because the Newgrounds mainstream is horrible, the shit that actually makes it to the top five most of the time sucks dick.

It's not even really music.

In my opinion we should just get rid of the voting system, and the "top" system for Audio.

The fuck is the point really?

All it does is promote the same useless, uninspirational crap that some 13 year old shmuck makes in FL Studio.

As long as there's ignorance, there will be mainstream.

You cut out the middle man (the top 5, and the top 100 shit,) and what do they have left? Nothing.

But that's an honest opinion to tell the truth.

It'll never happen because "the almighty gods" Tom and Wade are too busy not giving a fuck about any of our opinions to care.

Really the scoring system means nothing, good music comes from those with lower scores.

You just have to know where to look.


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MrSaint

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Posted at: 8/12/09 05:00 AM

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Because the Audio Portal is not about the scores.


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nathanallenpinard

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Posted at: 8/12/09 06:37 AM

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As long as there's ignorance, there will be mainstream.

As long as there's mainstream, there will be ignorance.


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Mich

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Posted at: 8/12/09 07:13 AM

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I don't get you people.
There's this one type of overdon threads where we all know there's a thread for, yet you all keep going on in the thread.

TMM43 linked, what else is there to say?

I just don't understand how you other regs have no problem just leaving a link in the other threads and leaving it at that, and with zerobombing threads you just go on and rant along.


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Posted at: 8/12/09 10:20 AM

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At 8/12/09 07:13 AM, MICHhimself wrote:
TMM43 linked, what else is there to say?

We can say cookies, jukebox, pickles, vagina, and plenty of other words that haven't been brought up yet in this thread :3

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Posted at: 8/12/09 10:30 AM

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You're having a midlife crisis because of a few low scoring submissions on the audio portal?

... OK


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Posted at: 8/12/09 10:50 AM

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At 8/12/09 10:30 AM, VegetarianMeat wrote: You're having a midlife crisis because of a few low scoring submissions on the audio portal?

... OK

That would sum it up, good sir.
That would sum it up.


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Posted at: 8/12/09 10:57 AM

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At 8/12/09 03:14 AM, sorohanro wrote: Take a look on my Favoritelist, more precise, on my Favorite Audio Artists. You'll see there some awesome musicians, like Bad Man Ink, Darkside, Fuoco, Winterwind...etc...
All of those have ridiculous low scores >:((

But that's it, deal with it. Make a group of friends and go voting on what you consider good, 5 bomb your favorite authors.
Keeping in mind that the "fair share" payments are accordingly to the traffic you get, even 0-bombers kind of helps. They have to open your page to vote on it ;)

That's actually really good advice - though, how to create contacts at a forum where you get blasted from every corner of hell just because you made an "inappropriate" thread?
Though, thanks.


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Posted at: 8/12/09 11:50 AM

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At 8/12/09 04:38 AM, Chemich wrote: This goes back to my rant on Newgrounds being exactly like America.

Ouch broski. Ouch.

At 10/28/08 07:33 PM, ParadoxSaint wrote: FUCK YES I'D SUCK MY OWN DICK.

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Posted at: 8/12/09 03:31 PM

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The solution is simple to the messed up voting system. Make it like other sites:

Voting can only be carried out by logged in users, and not only that, you can then see what score someone gave you so people would not randomly blam as they themselves would get blammed then. IP voting tracking would still be used as it is now, so people couldnt make multiple accounts to vote people down. It would also stop the fact people can vote their own music up everyday, as they wouldnt be able to vote for their own things at all. I also think that you should be able to vote once on a track and only once. You can only make one review now, they should do the same for voting.

It's not that hard. It's just newgrounds has never really been the place to re-think their voting system. They could fix it at any point. You should know where you are with your music, if its any good, or utter rubbish. Decent people will recognise us for good music


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Mich

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Posted at: 8/12/09 05:09 PM

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At 8/12/09 03:31 PM, PeterSatera wrote: The solution is simple to the messed up voting system. Make it like other sites:
solution like those that have been brought up tons of times

http://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/9731 38


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Posted at: 8/12/09 08:09 PM

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This thread is going to be quicky closed, i can smell it... or did i just for get to put deodorant on this morning.....

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Posted at: 8/12/09 08:47 PM

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I still can't believe paragonx9 is a chick... oh wait... this is a thread about zero voting? My bad. Skipped my mind. I'm so used to seeing these two topics that for a second they became one in my mind. We need some fresh ideas. Who wants to help me start a rumor that rucklo is actually a fish?

If we make the thread sound smart enough, we might be able to trick them for a little while...

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At 8/12/09 11:50 AM, Envy wrote:
At 8/12/09 04:38 AM, Chemich wrote: This goes back to my rant on Newgrounds being exactly like America.
Ouch broski. Ouch.

I live in America too, at least admit that it sucks right now.

You don't have to like the truth, you just have to accept it.

At 8/12/09 06:37 AM, nathanallenpinard wrote:
As long as there's ignorance, there will be mainstream.
As long as there's mainstream, there will be ignorance.

Yes.


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Posted at: 8/12/09 11:00 PM

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At 8/12/09 08:47 PM, Quarl wrote: I still can't believe paragonx9 is a chick... oh wait... this is a thread about zero voting?

Um.. ParagonX9 Is a boy...

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Posted at: 8/12/09 11:08 PM

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At 8/12/09 11:00 PM, DanceNation wrote:
At 8/12/09 08:47 PM, Quarl wrote: I still can't believe paragonx9 is a chick... oh wait... this is a thread about zero voting?
Um.. ParagonX9 Is a boy...

it was a joke, darling.


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Posted at: 8/12/09 11:10 PM

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At 8/12/09 11:00 PM, DanceNation wrote:
At 8/12/09 08:47 PM, Quarl wrote: I still can't believe paragonx9 is a chick... oh wait... this is a thread about zero voting?
Um.. ParagonX9 Is a boy...

HAHAHAHAH wow.


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Posted at: 8/12/09 11:44 PM

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At 8/12/09 11:00 PM, DanceNation wrote:
At 8/12/09 08:47 PM, Quarl wrote: I still can't believe paragonx9 is a chick... oh wait... this is a thread about zero voting?
Um.. ParagonX9 Is a boy...

I know what the cards are, I just made a typo with my joke. Sorry if that offended you. Regardless, I really don't fucking care anymore. He's a fucking man fish. End it now.


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Rawmin

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Posted at: 8/12/09 11:48 PM

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At 8/12/09 11:44 PM, Quarl wrote: I know what the cards are, I just made a typo with my joke. Sorry if that offended you. Regardless, I really don't fucking care anymore. He's a fucking man fish. End it now.

What? I thought Rucklo was a man-fish... at least thats what I heard...

;)

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Posted at: 8/13/09 02:00 AM

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Yeah.. I hear he eats crickets and can only breathe underwater.

I also hear that when he goes to NG meets he always has to keep a big bag of water tied around his head so the oxygen can get to his gills.


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Posted at: 8/13/09 02:17 AM

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At 8/12/09 11:48 PM, Rawmin wrote:
What? I thought Rucklo was a man-fish... at least thats what I heard...

Oh, I believe you heard right... I think I might have some evidence lying around on my hard drive. If this thread still exists tomorrow I'll try uploading it. Seriously, that guy has like... 80 mother fucking gills.


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Posted at: 8/13/09 07:24 AM

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you know what helps? right after you submitted your song, vote 5 and for the next minute you will be on the first place of the genre, people look up that genre for the best songs of that genre and then they find your song on number 1. Epic win.

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Posted at: 8/13/09 09:06 AM

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At 8/13/09 07:24 AM, Pippatchu wrote: you know what helps? right after you submitted your song, vote 5 and for the next minute you will be on the first place of the genre, people look up that genre for the best songs of that genre and then they find your song on number 1. Epic win.

you hack....and I dont mean like hacker hack, I mean like...asshole hack, like gene hackman hack...like wtf is this world coming to hack. Seriously. I vote 5 on my songs everyday...still doesnt help. Its whatever.

See...there are soooo many people in this place, this is how the shit works. Zero bombers come, they listen, they bomb. They dont come back. So stopping them from voting more than once, pretty useless. Allowing the artist to vote more than once gives people a chance to actually save their shit from the bombers. Another plus, people who don't vote in the flash portal all the time, don't have much weight in the voting system. So vote on other peoples stuff...in the flash portal, because you don't get any points for voting in the audio portal, for one reason or another. Plus having friends helps, and if you can get some of those friends to say your song is awesome on any number of levels in a review, people will be intrigued and want to listen to more of your song than they otherwise would.

Three levels of combatance for zero bombers; vote 5's everyday on your shit, vote on lots of stuff in the flash portal, and get people to review your shit. Problem solved. Now...paragonX9 is a girl? What?


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