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Response to Videa Game Regulars Lounge. 2013-08-24 17:31:57 Reply

At 8/24/13 03:34 PM, Dean wrote: Just beat Twilight Princess and I love that game. Took about 31 hours or something but I didn't find myself getting bored at any point. Maybe with the exception of the City in the Sky but I just wasn't finding that dungeon interesting.

I did it in 36 hours the first time, but accumulated over 60 hours to complete it 100%. It's quite long for a non-RPG title.

City in the Sky was a nice dungeon in my opinion. Or at least, the boss fight was pretty awesome if I remember correctly. Personally, I thought the Temple of Time dungeon was a bit dull.


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Response to Videa Game Regulars Lounge. 2013-08-25 12:25:20 Reply

A lot of people say that Twilight Princess was a mediocre Zelda game, not bad, not great, but I loved it. I think it takes a firm place as my 3rd favourite behind OoT and MM. What really let it down is the awful supporting characters that were forced into the limelight so much, Colin and Ilia.


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Response to Videa Game Regulars Lounge. 2013-08-25 13:50:47 Reply

At 8/25/13 12:25 PM, VoidForce wrote: A lot of people say that Twilight Princess was a mediocre Zelda game, not bad, not great, but I loved it.

I loved it too. I don't really understand how anybody who enjoyed Ocarina of Time couldn't enjoy Twilight Princess. It essentially feels like a modernised OoT in just about every way. I guess I can understand that some people might not enjoy playing as Link in beast form but that was only slightly annoying early on in the game. Once you had the power to change form at will, it became less of an issue. And I only call it an "issue" because gathering all those bugs was kinda lame but not enough to consider the game bad.

Started on Skies of Arcadia Legends today. Only about 3 and a half hours in but so far it's a refreshing change. A JRPG centred on pirates. Air pirates at that. It has a combat system that's slightly different too. The entire party shares "spirit points" that are used for special moves and to cast magic. So if one character uses a special move that drains a lot of SP, it drains it for the whole party, not just that one character. There's also this system where you can change the colour of your weapon at any point. So for example, I think if you change it to red it sort of becomes a fire weapon. Fire might be strong against some enemies but also by using your weapons in different colours, you gain magic exp for that colour, unlocking new spells. So if you want to unlock fire spells, set your weapon to red when you're attacking so that you gain red exp. Maybe that sounds kinda complicated(?) but it's not really. It's actually kinda cool.


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Response to Videa Game Regulars Lounge. 2013-08-27 11:18:22 Reply

At 8/25/13 01:50 PM, Dean wrote:
Started on Skies of Arcadia Legends today.

Some advice/tips:

-Do not run from battles under any circumstances; doing so will worsen your Swashbuckler rating.

- Use weapon attributes to your advantage; doing so will increase the damage you deliver and decrease the damage you sustain.

- Items don't drain spirit points which are better used for Super Moves, and they do not get blocked by Aika's Delta Shield S-move; use them, and stock up on several.

- Use Aika's S-moves to clear out large groups of enemies early on.

- Learn Green magic first. The majority of the spells learned from other colors are offensive in nature, and your spirit points are better used for other purposes.

Wonderful experience, it's a shame no other game has capitalized on the idea of airship combat. I felt it was implemented nicely.

The soundtrack is heavenly. Enjoy your playthrough, no other game is like it -I've searched-

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Response to Videa Game Regulars Lounge. 2013-08-27 11:57:30 Reply

At 8/27/13 11:18 AM, Elixur wrote: Some advice/tips:

Not to sound rude or anything but all of those tips are very basic gameplay aspects that the game (or instruction manual in some cases) already covered. With the exception of not running from battles but given how challenging some of the early bosses have been so far, running from combat seems like a terribly bad idea anyway because you're going to need the EXP.

Although I find the weapon attributes slightly confusing. There seems to be no clear indication of what weapon colour will be most effective on each enemy so I find myself just using trial and error until I discover what colour is most effective.


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Response to Videa Game Regulars Lounge. 2013-09-05 14:08:11 Reply

Ladies and gentlemen... the future of gaming!

oh wait, it's the present.

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Response to Videa Game Regulars Lounge. 2013-09-05 14:09:21 Reply

At 9/5/13 02:08 PM, Makeshift wrote: Ladies and gentlemen... the future of gaming!

oh wait, it's the present.

Note this is a single player game (there is multiplayer, but not online besides leaderboards) and I already put my CD Key in 2 days ago.


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Response to Videa Game Regulars Lounge. 2013-09-05 14:21:11 Reply

Any thoughts on a Steam 10 year anniversary sale? I don't see why they shouldn't, they did do a 1-year anniversary of Greenlight, after all..


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Response to Videa Game Regulars Lounge. 2013-09-05 14:33:53 Reply

At 8/12/13 03:41 PM, Makeshift wrote:
So I was just wondering, what sort of speeds do you guys get. Here I am so excited to be getting 45mbps, when people out there have more than 20x faster speeds.

At the moment I'm on 10MBp/s with unlimited cap. It works well and at most hours of the day I can watch 1080p youtube videos with no problem, though generally between 5pm and 11pm it gets a bit choppy and sometimes takes a considerable nose dive. It's much much more reasonable than the 0.5MBp/s I was running a few years ago, that was literally Hell. More than an 800MB download? Forget it.

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Response to Videa Game Regulars Lounge. 2013-09-05 16:53:01 Reply

Pokemon X pre-ordered with first class delivery. I have high hopes for this, despite the Pokemon Bank annual charge being complete horseshit.


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Response to Videa Game Regulars Lounge. 2013-09-05 17:12:15 Reply

Far Cry 3 is amazing. I love the way shit just happens naturally. For example, I was sneaking up on a goat who was hanging out by the water and a crocodile suddenly popped out and snatched him and pulled him in the water. Just when I was right behind. The shit was right in my face. I was like "holy damn! woah!". And another time, I was about to sneak into an outpost when a tiger wandered in from the wild and killed half the people. And when there were only two guys left, one guy just up and ran off and never came back and left the other guy to be snuck up on by me and stabbed through the back. It's so satisfying clearing an outpost without being caught, too. I've done it a few times already. You feel like a ninja. I just wonder if you can kill people with the bow without alerting others. I've only killed animals with it.


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Response to Videa Game Regulars Lounge. 2013-09-05 23:18:08 Reply

Decided to play through the entire Dragon Quest series in order, excluding X.

Cleared I-III and going to start IV this weekend. I've completed them all in the past, not including IX Sentinels of the Starry Skies. IV-VI I'll be emulating on DS because I prefer the port to the originals and don't feel like patching a translation. Difficult to rank my preference of this series, but VIII is easily the best and my favorite. Level 5 really hit a home run with the ce;-shaded graphics, the skill system and huge colorful open world to explore while maintaining the mechanics; it's great.

I think VII is the most popular in Japan and I enjoy the game, but holy shit does it start slow. It takes upwards of two hours to get into the meat of the game. Yawn. DQI is probably my least favorite simply because it's so outdated, only allowed one party member and was improved upon in sequels. RPGs nowadays are too easy. One could say the grind gave it artificial difficulty, but there's something bittersweet about accidentally wandering into an area of strong monsters to early. In DQII running into a group of 4 green dragons only to be ambushed and remain helpless as they all spew fire onto your whole party. Game over and there is nothing you could do. Alternatively running into Gold Batboons and not killing them off quickly enough once they reach critical HP levels and watching as they use Sacrifice. Was it unfair? Definitely. Do I love it? Definitely.

The game threw everything it had at you before reaching the final save point, like a personal vendetta to stop you.

The line between poorly balanced mechanics and challenge in RPGs is a tight line to walk, but I for one miss the tension and fear of enemy encounters. Having to know little details like Shields of Strength restoring HP when used in battle and that certain enemies were weak to sleep or instant death was so fun to discover as a child. Enix kept the Hero's sword with the same stats was also a nice touch.

The third game wrapped up the Erdrick trilogy nicely and was one of the first console RPGs to implement a class based system that you could choose at the beginning and alter as you see fit. Probably the inspiration for a lot of other titles, even though it borrowed heavily from D&D.

When I finish I'll pop back in and rank the series. Probably take me a month, just as a guess.


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Response to Videa Game Regulars Lounge. 2013-09-06 06:09:26 Reply

At 9/5/13 05:12 PM, Sense-Offender wrote: I just wonder if you can kill people with the bow without alerting others. I've only killed animals with it.

Yeah it counts as a silenced weapon, it's brilliant for that kind of thing.

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Response to Videa Game Regulars Lounge. 2013-09-08 17:06:24 Reply

Watched about an hour of gameplay for Killer Is Dead and holy shit... I must play this gem.

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Response to Videa Game Regulars Lounge. 2013-09-08 17:54:20 Reply

I was thinking about this a hour ago but their any chance that Hideo Kojima would also be expanding the story of The Boss from MGS3 centered somewhere around the 1940s and 1950s ? ARound what time would Aleksandr Leonovitch Granin come with the initial designs for the similar machines before the Shagohod .What would it have been called? would it go over how she developed the CQC Moves, How would the story even go?

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At 9/8/13 05:54 PM, argile wrote: I was thinking about this a hour ago but their any chance that Hideo Kojima would also be expanding the story of The Boss from MGS3 centered somewhere around the 1940s and 1950s ? ARound what time would Aleksandr Leonovitch Granin come with the initial designs for the similar machines before the Shagohod .What would it have been called? would it go over how she developed the CQC Moves, How would the story even go?

Nothing like that has really been let on, but on the other hand no one knew that you'd be playing as Raiden for the majority of MGS2 until it was released, so who knows.


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Response to Videa Game Regulars Lounge. 2013-09-08 21:13:58 Reply

At 9/8/13 05:06 PM, Elixur wrote: Watched about an hour of gameplay for Killer Is Dead and holy shit... I must play this gem.

Any idea what's up with the Pink Floyd reference?


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Response to Videa Game Regulars Lounge. 2013-09-10 01:33:57 Reply

At the risk of bringing up old news, I noticed that Grand Theft Auto 5 is coming out...
I'm getting old. I never really played GTA (Other then the 2nd) because I never owned a PS2.

But, its more or less about how many sequels exist these days, compared to when I was a kid.
Take Mario Party for example, there used to be three. Now there's like nine of them...
I like to think back to when I used to play those classics with 3 or 5 friends. Seems like only yesterday.
I know it sounds silly, but video games are sometimes a way to show you how much time has actually flown by.

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Response to Videa Game Regulars Lounge. 2013-09-10 16:54:40 Reply

This is a public service announcement. I purchased Amnesia A Machine for Pigs on Steam and completed it in two and a half hours and I went really fucking slow. It's literally a walking simulator. No inventory, no sanity meter, simple bring key to lock puzzles. It has no gameplay AT ALL. Very minimal scares, most of which are jump scares.

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The story is about a man who wakes up and notices his kids are missing and so he explores his mansion to find them. He gets lead around by this other guy who promises to help him find them. He ends up turning on this machine that wrecks havoc on London streets. Realizing you've been fooled, you turn the machine off. That's the end of what happens in the game. (By the way he is the wealthy owner of a pig butchery/plantation/whatever the fuck you call it.)

What actually happens is the main character is having an existential crisis and wanted to rid the world of all people, in an effort to prevent future world wars and damage the planet or some shit. He starts by killing his kids.

This was a quick cash in on the Amnesia name. The devs who made the original better step in, apologize, offer refunds and turn around and high tail it back to the studio to put out an actual GOOD game before all of their credibility is gone. Personally, I've learned my lesson.

Fuck man... buyer's remorse. DON'T BUY THIS SHIT, WATCH A PLAYTHROUGH if you must experience the story.

That is all.


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Response to Videa Game Regulars Lounge. 2013-09-10 17:13:17 Reply

At 9/10/13 04:54 PM, Elixur wrote: This is a public service announcement. I purchased Amnesia A Machine for Pigs on Steam and completed it in two and a half hours and I went really fucking slow.

I was actually considering buying it too.

I just rented Killer is Dead and Alice: Madness Returns. Both have mixed reviews so it'll be interesting to see how they are.


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Response to Videa Game Regulars Lounge. 2013-09-12 14:08:49 Reply

I got System Shock 2 for paying $6 on the new Weekly Sale Humble thingy, but I have the game already so someone take this.

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Response to Videa Game Regulars Lounge. 2013-09-12 14:24:37 Reply

At 9/12/13 02:08 PM, Makeshift wrote: I got System Shock 2 for paying $6 on the new Weekly Sale Humble thingy, but I have the game already so someone take this.

Steam key: 005WX-Q4MX5-NWR0X

I have no idea what it is but thanks

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Response to Videa Game Regulars Lounge. 2013-09-12 14:54:29 Reply

At 9/12/13 02:24 PM, Snuff wrote:
At 9/12/13 02:08 PM, Makeshift wrote: I got System Shock 2 for paying $6 on the new Weekly Sale Humble thingy, but I have the game already so someone take this.

Steam key: 005WX-Q4MX5-NWR0X
I have no idea what it is but thanks

You've never heard of System Shock? It's often considered one of the best PC games of all time. Bioshock is it's spiritual sequel.

These new humble bundles are pretty good. I've been wanting Shadow Warrior, Brutal Legend and Fez.


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Response to Videa Game Regulars Lounge. 2013-09-12 15:20:43 Reply

So, Microsoft updated their Xbox Live service to change everything from Microsoft Points to real currency. In doing this, I've noticed that a few DLC options have gone away in games that I own. Anyone else experience this?


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Response to Videa Game Regulars Lounge. 2013-09-12 16:52:16 Reply

Well, it turns out, I was wrong. There was no Steam Special 10-year anniversary. Well, at least, Tomb Raider, Activision and Rogue Legacy are having a sale.


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Response to Videa Game Regulars Lounge. 2013-09-12 17:42:04 Reply

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Risen 2, Sacred 2 Gold, Saints Row 2, and Saints Row: The Third Steam Key

Old humble bundle keys. you get all three. If you do partake in this, then please check out humble bundle and support. ALso if you get them, let everyone know.


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Response to Videa Game Regulars Lounge. 2013-09-12 21:21:12 Reply

At 9/12/13 05:42 PM, kidd25 wrote: VHQMG-KGJJK-49890
Risen 2, Sacred 2 Gold, Saints Row 2, and Saints Row: The Third Steam Key

Old humble bundle keys. you get all three. If you do partake in this, then please check out humble bundle and support. ALso if you get them, let everyone know.

Thanks for that man. I just got the recent humble bundle, always been interested in Fez.

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At 9/12/13 03:20 PM, ZJ wrote: So, Microsoft updated their Xbox Live service to change everything from Microsoft Points to real currency. In doing this, I've noticed that a few DLC options have gone away in games that I own. Anyone else experience this?

I can't cancel my gold membership anymore from this, I have to ring up.


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At 9/12/13 09:21 PM, Snuff wrote:
At 9/12/13 05:42 PM, kidd25 wrote: VHQMG-KGJJK-49890
Risen 2, Sacred 2 Gold, Saints Row 2, and Saints Row: The Third Steam Key

Old humble bundle keys. you get all three. If you do partake in this, then please check out humble bundle and support. ALso if you get them, let everyone know.
Thanks for that man. I just got the recent humble bundle, always been interested in Fez.

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Response to Videa Game Regulars Lounge. 2013-09-21 01:52:19 Reply

I purchased The Last Of Us (finally) and completed it about twenty minutes ago. Really feel like blowing off some steam, I mean wow. Going into it I didn't expect this level of writing from Naughty Dog. I outright despise the Uncharted games, but man does this title turn a 180 degrees from their prior work. (in a pleasant way)

I'm almost certainly going to go into a lengthy character consuming rant or review, but I will say gameplay wise it felt a hell of a lot like Resident Evil 4, except it allowed stealth, which is a vast improvement. Scavenging for gear, food and ammo left a lot to be desired and really made me crave an open ended game in this style and setting.

I'm still battling with the ending. It's made abundantly clear to the player that Joel suffers PTSD and his intentions are left ambiguous to let the player decide if he slowly descends into madness (as illustrated by him killing the surgeon and subsequently killing Marlene) and/or touches base on a very primitive human desire and condition; a loving father doing everything in his power to protect his -second- daughter. He knows losing her would give him no reason to continue *fighting* aka living especially when it's for a cause that isn't full proof and may be for nothing. (The vaccine wasn't a cure and wasn't guaranteed to work) Add on top of that the difficulty in distributing the vaccine were it to be viable and couple with the fact that there are still millions of infected humanoids in the world and it is really only a small step. WHo knows maybe nature will correct itself, if I was in Joel's shoes I would have done the EXACT same thing. I'd like to talk about his mental issues though,

There are three forms of PTSD (google it) and Joel clearly demonstrates one trait-
Avoiding: The person may avoid people, places, thoughts, or situations that may remind him or her of the trauma. This can lead to feelings of detachment and isolation from family and friends, as well as a loss of interest in activities that the person once enjoyed.

This is very much Joel. He refuses to talk about his watch, the deaths of Sarah, Tess, Sam/Henry, or what he did to survive.

Ellie even states that she wants to talk about the deaths before the dam and Joel says "No. How many times have we been over this. Things happen and we move on."

While that seems like a normal response to tragic events, the refusal to talk about a tragedy is not healthy. In a post apocalypse life, survival may require Joel to rely on basic instincts without time to mourn but 20 years is a long time to not "properly" deal with Sara's death and the things he did to protect Tommy.

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I love that the ending is left open ended for the player to interpret Ellie's and Joel's final exchange. It was like, "Hey Joel, i'm giving you one more chance to be honest with me. What? Still going to lie? Okay..."

This is a prime example of what I mean about TLoU being ambiguous. They lay the scenes and dialog out to allow for personal opinions. If the conversations were "clear" then the game wouldn't be as effective in generating emotional responses. Just imagine...

"Swear to me. Swear that everything you said about the Fireflies is true."
"Ellie, I lied to you to protect your feelings because I see you as my own daughter now but you should forgive me because I saved and protected you. Help me live as if I never lost a daughter."
"I really don't like that Joel but you may be right. Now let me think about if I am going to leave because you betrayed me."

Look at Shakespeare's soliloquies. They aren't great because Hamlet stands up and says, "I am very mad they killed my dad. Now I will plot revenge!"

Just because Ridley Scott thinks Deckard is a replicant in Blade Runner doesn't mean everyone has to agree. A major part of art is audience interpretation. One guy thinks Van Gogh looks to childish, while another thinks it's the pinnacle of color. Both are valid.

In the end, I'm going to be optimistic with this one, here's how I interpret it.
-Ellie wants to "help"society

-Joel initially agrees to the mission both because of his hinted romantic relationship or atleast friendly bond with Tess and because he himself is blind to his actions, always hurling himself at whatever task he believes is required to survive, this being one (acquiring guns in the beginning)

-Over the journey Ellie develops an attachment to Joel and he responds with denial, still fighting his past with his daughter; he eventually erupts in the cabin after the horse sequence.

-She lost faith in him, knowing he was leaving her like everyone else in her life she loved. She was fighting an internal battle simultaneously and put up barriers to protect herself.

-Deep down they both are scarred and regret their actions, coming to an almost silent mutual agreement to let it go.

-When the Fireflies find them after the water event Ellie is unconscious and has no choice in the matter of her sacrifice for a vaccine. It's of my opinion she thought it was a simple "give some blood or whatever samples and go home the next day" kind of deal. She wasn't given any kind of choice by the scientists and Marlene. They wanted a cure and had no qualms with taking what they wanted by force, effectively playing the role of God.

-Joel when struck with her fate went into Denzel Washington *Man On Fire* mode. Become Rambo Achievement Unlocked.

-Ellie is never told about the Fireflies and Marlene's true intentions and in my opinion knows that Joel is lying to her about the events. She accepts and acknowledges with that final push that their bond is in cement. Some of theorized that this is her realizing she cannot trust Joel and will inevitably leave him and go on to become a mature, strong survivor and thus The Last Of Us 2. I disagree with this because the developers in an interview I searched minutes ago stated they had no intentions of bring back these characters "Their story is complete". Who knows, money talks and TLoU sold well.

So, yeah fantastic game. By the time the Fall section and beyond came around i was extremely connected with and cared for the two main protagonists. (although I find the supporting cast lacking, besides maybe Bill and Tess) I think the overarching plot is extremely flimsy, seeing as it remains constant throughout and adds no further dynamic, stagnating the pacing at times. (Get Ellie to X place) The enemy AI is mediocre at best. The upgrading system could use some tweaking and a few more enemy types would have been lovely. The screen transitions from one season to another broke up the progression and felt jarring. Two people who had been on the road for so long and had so much time to discuss and share you would think would be much closer and open then they are at some points. It didn't have great continuity. You know what I'm trying to say, I'm tired.

Overall 8/10 game. Ways to improve- Less linear, better AI, more fleshed out cutscenes, some waves of enemies felt unnecessary to the context of the world (kinda like oh hey we haven't had the player fight some dudes in a while throw some baddies here) weapon diversity was non-existent -I didn't even use the bow-, the shotgun and El Diablo were OP and stealth+melee was OP, my mind is going blank at the moment...

Anyway, if you want an in-depth review this isn't it. I enjoyed every second though and as a "mature" gamer it satisfied me completely. Would completely recommend to anyone who can enjoy a great post-apocalyptic story. I'm out.

Also I'm finding GTAV to be more or less overhyped, it's just more of the same and I'll probably drop it in a week and forget about it. Don't know why I expected more than bad dialogue and an open world to dick around in for a few hours.

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