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At 8/3/09 12:47 AM, wtfyourface wrote: I don't hate rap. I don't hate any genre of music, as I'm not a close-minded fuck. Thanks.

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seriously, i hate kids that ignore entire genres. rap is just the same as every other genre, in that it has good and bad. i.e. rock has nickelback, rap has black eyed peas. but there's great stuff out there, like madlib, MF DOOM, N.W.A, and a tribe called quest

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At 8/3/09 12:54 AM, MikauZora wrote: I hate rap because it's just a beat with some crappy rhyming. Reminds me of screamo where it's just nothing but screaming no one can understand.
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find a power metal song with better rhymes than this

and you're ridic if you think rap's production is just beats. for proof of what i'm saying, listen to kanye west's graduation and late registration.

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I personally like rock and metal but there are some good rap songs but some that are coming out now are kind of stupid and don't really make any sence.

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At 8/2/09 05:03 PM, NeverHundred wrote:
At 8/2/09 04:05 PM, chrisG755 wrote: It just gets boring :):):)

the only rap i listen to is in German.
I actually know a lot of people who will only listen to rap if it's in other languages.

Yeah, i do, ive been totally obsessed with German rap lately, you can pick out words and can tellb they still talk about Gansta crap, and swear, and talk about "yo"omies beetcheezes!"
But all in all, they just sound cooler, rapping in a different language is different in rap, in German the pronunciation of certain words can be so complex, it seems nice to hear sumthin different to the usual usual "im gansta, i'll pop you fuck u" lyrics.
Its harder. If English speaking rappers tried to rap in German to a beat, they'd have a lot of hard trouble!

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I don't hate rap, I hate record companies. They only give contracts to f*ckin womanizing, ignorant morons who have absolutely no talent. Because of this, almost every sing song is about exactly the same thing.

They need to start looking for people who actually know what they are doing.


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I don't hate rap.

Just the dumb 10 year-olds who think that the rap now is the shit.

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all rap is is swearing and rhyming most of the time, any idiot can do that

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At 8/3/09 12:55 AM, Sinitech wrote: Why does anyone care?

Listen to whatever the fuck you want to listen to, and stop trying to force other people to agree with your worthless opinion.

Hey man, I'm not trying to change anyones opinion, the truth is i like rap, i have a problem with kids like myself getting caught up into sterotypes where they listen to it cause it makes them "hard, Gangsta" whatever, ive always tried to pull away from that i love both Metal "Slipknot, Trivium, BFMV".

But im also down with many rappers on NG, and more than anything else German Rappers my favorite being "MC Bogy" hehe, mainly for the pronunciation, and also, you cant find rappers that speak English that people have heard of who aren't called, Lil Wayne Snoop Dog, Xzibit.

Anyway, if i made a thread entitled "Why do you love Rap?" im ethier gunna get little response, or a huge flaming thread, which gets lock and people get banned.

Rap is so.. stereotypical with Rude words, Hoes, Bitches, and the "N" word that people have had enough that's why i made a thread, to understand whether people thought the same way about people who try to be what there not, or just be Damn Rude.

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I haate most rap, there's maybe 3 rappers i can listen to. STAY AWAY FROM KISS100 RADIO!! (UK)

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I only like De La Soul, N.E.R.D. and Eminem.

All because they rap about things other than "bitches n hoes n shootin shit n being black n being gangsta my life is hard"

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They still think there hard, but at least they wear normal clothes and pronounce "Gansta" different.

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I won't say that I hate rap. Certainly I disagree with the glorification of violence, criminality, and immoderate materialism promoted by most rap, but the beats are appealing, in a primal sort of way, and the disagreeable content can be forgiven to a certain extent by the lives lived by many rappers before they were signed: lives characterized by poverty, so that that having material possessions was a major goal of their lives, by crime, which in many ways was viewed as a way to feed oneself in hard times while sticking it to "the Man" according to the accounts which I have heard, and violence, which desensitized them at an early age to hearing gunshot and seeing death. They don't have the life experience to know any better, so even though they shouldn't be promoting such violent crimes from a perspective of law and of conventional morality, it can be at the very least understood why their lyrics are the way they are.

But there is something I do hate, and that's wiggers. Not even all of them, but most. See, rap is in many ways designed to be a race-related and class-related experience. It's designed for poor blacks by poor blacks, and a middle-class white shouldn't try to involve himself. A poor white, growing up in the same kind of environment, can be given some leeway with this, because he faces many of the same obstacles due to his socioeconomic status, but someone with every advantage of middle-class life and none of the obstacles posed by poverty should not be trying to be something he's not. You really want to be like that, wigger? I'll drop you off in the projects, you can try to survive there. Chances are you get mugged or shot in a day, and you'll be crying for your mother in a week or less. After eighteen years of that life, eighteen years of getting too much of the bad and none of the good, eighteen years of having no money and no possessions and little or no chance to obtain either, eighteen years of robberies and muggings and stabbings and shootings and killing, THEN you can act like that. Eighteen years, and you can go around dressing and acting and talking like whatever image the media is giving you of a "gangsta", listening to music put out by people who had little to aspire to in life except poverty, jail, and an early death. But not until then, wigger.


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I now hate hip-hop thanks to this douche. This may be the most overrated person of all time.

Why do you Hate Rap?

THERE IS NO MORE TO SAY.

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Just with any genre of music, there is good stuff and bad stuff. Some rappers are okay, the ones who actually have meaningful lyrics instead of about gang wars or some shit like that.

My choice of genre is metal, it has meaningful lyrics, and cool riffs and insane breakdowns. But then again it has some shitty bands, like Distrubed, Slipknot and Avenged Sevenfold (not even sure you can call A7X metal).

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At 8/3/09 07:48 AM, Greenfrost6 wrote: I now hate hip-hop thanks to this douche. This may be the most overrated person of all time.

Soulja boy makes me cringe and want to jump off a very high cliff. Good thing there aren't any very high cliffs in my immediate area.

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Rap is my life.

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I hate rap because black people made it.


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Good rap.

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I like old school rap the most. Beastie boys, Public enemy. Stuff like that. Newer rap just sinks into shallow half hearted whinging

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I hate rap because it disgraces music. I mean we have people like Mozart and Beethoven who made all this great music, and you got rock bands who make a tune that gets stuck in your head for twenty years, but rap is just people talking over a beat, and synthetic instruments playing the same thing over and over in the background.


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rap is good.... as long as it was made before 1995. after that, it turned to shit.... sorry, but it did. NWA was amazing, as was the DOC and Public Enemy... but it just turned into jackasses talking about how mcuh money they have, although they still maintain the persona that they are, indeed, from 'the streets'.

it's just sad... on a good note though, there is some good hip-hop still out there...

i also noticed thaat a lot of people posting on this topic are confused as to what hip-hop is..

rap is where the rhymers talk about themselves.
hip-hop is where rhymers talk about politics or the beat of the current song

Um.... Yeah........


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Personally, I think rap is more innovative then most other genre's because unlike metal and rock, it didn't branch off anything, it simply came up from Mohamed Ali (some comedien) and ways of codes of transporting drugs. That and the fact that artists interact with each other more then any other industry.

I like rap, I used to listen to rock, but there wasn't anything I seemed to like beyond Linkin park and a couple other songs, it seemed all repetitive to me as after all, a guitar is a guitar, and it will always sound like a guitar, which for me made it sound repetitive. Believe me I like some metal and rock, but the fact of how I've interacted with some metalheads kinda pushes me away from it (I've never seen such hypocrisy.......).

I got into rap after I heard the X-ecutioners when they collaborated with Linkin Park and made the awesome song Its Going Down, I played that song over and over again. Then i saw some other work of the X-ecutioners and came across M.O.P., the most hardcore rappers out there, and the most innovative out of alot of artists (as in, they broke the traditional rhyme rhyme rhyme and concentrated more on aggressive presentation). Then I saw an interview with Twista, another innovative rapper who is one of the few rappers who rap so fast that it takes skill to understand them. Then through M.O.P. I came across 50 Cent and G-Unit, determined to be not biased I gave him a listen to some songs (of course I got some suggestions by fans) and I liked it, I first got into G-Unit though. And with that got me into Young Buck, Mobb Deep and Spider Loc (i was already into 50 by this point). I also heard of other artists like Young Jeezy and gave them a listen, put them in (not Lil Wayne though) then I went to datpiff and downloaded lesser known artists and the like.

And thats how I got into rap.
Now let's shoot down some arguements:
"Rap talks about violence, rape, sex and drugs too much"
first of all, rape is not in rap, or its rare and by bizarre artists, second of all violence sex and drugs is already something every other parts of entertainment have embraced to begin with, why should rap be targetted just because its a music genre?
"Rap takes no skill whatsover"
Incorrect, yes anyone can rap, just like anyone can make a rock band, rap is like poetry, same build and all, that and the fact that some poets just suck and others are amazing.
"Well some rap is fine but most of it is crap, like 50 Cent"
This is more of a personal preference thing TBH. 50 Cent isn't necesarily like that, he's more of a genius, he did everything possible to make money, acting video games, he's an underground artist and a mainstream artist at the same time. How is this possible? Easy, he makes singles like In Da Club while goes back and makes stuff like I'll Whip Yo Head Boy, however most noticeably is G-Unit, they have hardly any albums at all, two in total, and those only feature 50 Tony Yayo Lloyd Banks and Young Buck along with one artist hardly even known. However the actual G-Unit totaled 12 rappers at one point (including my famed rappers M.O.P.), and it was like that for a few years. What these rappers were doing were going making Mixtapes, G-Unit Radio is great and I would classify it as underground, along with many other mixtapes.

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Rap doesn't interest me because some of the mainstream rap songs are about doing girls and getting drunk. The music I listen to such as rock and techno try to get a message out and have actual feeling to it, i'm not trying to say rap and hip hop don't have a feeling, they do. But I can relate more to rock and techno than rap or hip hop. On another point though, 3OH3 is a mixture of the genres and it sounds great. Something I've been noticing now though is that rap and hip hop is now starting to sound more like techno and rock, so maybe there might be an omniform of music. I just hope that country doesn't join that mix haha.


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Also I looked up whats the difference between hip-hop and rap. Apparently HIp-Hop is some old school term used during the 70's to actually make fun of the genre (not to offend though) by some artist, then it spread quickly and everyone started to use it.

Hip-Hop is just another name for rap, thats why everyone gets confused to what it is, some people thought there was difference causing more confused people.

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I have a condition called reasoning and logic, it prevents me from listening to shit music.

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i hate it because it is conformist dribble spit out of a black persons mouth. all it does is self-promote their money/women/penis/sexuality in the most unappealing way. i will admit, i listen to eminem, but he isnt like the rest, some of his songs tell storys. but im talking about todays rappers, who have no talent and is all computerized and shit. theres not enough words to express my hatred

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Mainstream stuff is just so bleck.
But I do enjoy underground rap and old school. It seems more like they think over their lyrics more then the mainstream that rap about the same boring shit.

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soulja boy OFFICIALLY killed the entire rap genre.

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At 8/3/09 01:50 PM, Warforger wrote: "Rap takes no skill whatsover"
Incorrect, yes anyone can rap, just like anyone can make a rock band, rap is like poetry, same build and all, that and the fact that some poets just suck and others are amazing.

The difference being that in a rock band you need to have a sense of teamwork, and like rap, you need lyrics, and you can't pull good lyrics out of your arse at all, no matter what genre. Listen to Nothing Else Matters by Metallica and you'll see what i mean - it's a song that has a meaning that is definable by anybody who listens to it. And I have never even heard of a rapper with an actual band other than synthetic audio behind them. I'm not saying that rap is skillless, but I'm saying that rock is more skillful than it by its inclusion of teamwork and actually writing the music across different instruments.

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why do people like r.a.p should be the question


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