There aren't many types of threads I hate more than the "HUUUUUURR RAP SUCKS ITS JUST BLACK PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT BITCHES AND HOES WITH COMPUTER MUSIC DUUUUURR" threads. First off, the use of synthesizers, samplers and turntables isn't necessarily non-musical;I find most of those who think otherwise quite ignorant as to what defines music. Now, unfortunately, most modern, mainstream rap fits that sarcastic all-caps definition of rap quite well. However, many older rap groups, such as Public Enemy, and more recent underground rappers like Kool Keith and El-p, are much better in quality of music/lyrics than more mainstream forms of the genre. So yeah.