Groups of People

[Synesthesia]

Will all of these groups of people PLEASE stop whining about oppression unless you really have been oppressed.
Has, for example, your group of people been tortured recently? Murdered in large groups? Denied some sort of freedom?
And even those groups that have had all of these things happened to them will, about 60 years down the road still complain and still try to hold any member of their group that doesn't agree down or accuse them of being a sell out.
Even more annoying, listening to all these people who have had it well over the years complain.
Like so-called white guys complaining that NOW they are being oppressed.
Now I'm not saying that in the past people of European decent haven't tasted the whip. There's Ireland and all of the troubles it had with England, Scotland, the rich vs the poor, Catholics vs. Protestants, Protestants vs. Catholics.
The point is, for the most part all of this is over and there are larger problems.
You want to know why it's considered more wrong to use slurs against "blacks" than against "whites?" It's history ,it's the historical weight of it.
Same with men and women. If a woman gets groped while on stage or has a boss that says nasty things to her, it's considered harrassment, if the same happens to a man, a man gets groped by a woman and doesn't like it, it's considered not as big a deal or people will glare at the man and say, how could you NOT like that?
Equality in the world would be nice, but how can we achieve it when one group of people complains about prejudice and the other just says, You just wan't special rights.
It's ridiculous.

[bumcheekcity]

At 2/4/04 04:39 PM, Synesthesia wrote: Will all of these groups of people PLEASE stop whining about oppression unless you really have been oppressed.

I really dont understand what you're saying. Are you saying we shouldn't complain about totalitarian facist regimes unless we've been victims?

[Synesthesia]

It's hard to know what the heck I'm saying.
I just get tired of all these young cubs that have everything, or some redneck guy complaining about the right to bear arms being taken from him when there are people with REAL problems, like some girl in Africa who has to worry about getting mutilated in the worse way by her own tribe and can't get married without this happening.
But she can't enjoy sex after this happens either.
There are so many real problems in the world. Why do people complain everytime some sort of progress is being made towards doing something for people who REALLY have problems?
But it's so hard to construct that thought without sounding so... offensive...

[mrpopenfresh]

At 2/4/04 05:06 PM, Synesthesia wrote: It's hard to know what the heck I'm saying.
I just get tired of all these young cubs that have everything, or some redneck guy complaining about the right to bear arms being taken from him when there are people with REAL problems, like some girl in Africa who has to worry about getting mutilated in the worse way by her own tribe and can't get married without this happening.
But she can't enjoy sex after this happens either.
There are so many real problems in the world. Why do people complain everytime some sort of progress is being made towards doing something for people who REALLY have problems?
But it's so hard to construct that thought without sounding so... offensive...

Welcome to reality man. You'll noticed that the most priviledged of us are the ones who wine the most, and vice versa. See, you'll never see a starving little african girl commit suicide. On the other hand, look at all of us who wine because our computer is too slow or how we get fat because we just don't do anything at all, all day long. Do you know how much of a culture shock that little african girl would get if she ever stepped foot in a McDonalds, with all the obese people eating enough food in a meal that she could eat in a month?

[Proteas]

How ironic is this? Fuck that... how twisted is this? Someone complaining about people who complain. I want to know, what have these people ever done to you, other than grate your nerves?

[TheShrike]

At 2/4/04 07:33 PM, Proteas wrote: How ironic is this? Fuck that... how twisted is this? Someone complaining about people who complain. I want to know, what have these people ever done to you, other than grate your nerves?

Amen.

Although... Nah.

I'm with you on this.

Synesthesia, don't think for one second that a clit is a feminine prerequisite for orgasm. It certainly helps a tremendous amount, yes, but it's not the sole reason why women enjoy sex.

[TheWakingDeath]

the irony of the whole thing is brilliant, synthesia or whatever. you really are a genius.

[EefOofClock]

Jesus guys, get off this mans back. You're all getting him completely wrong. He doesn't mean that they can't complain about something, but if you are going to complain about it, then make it something that is worthwhile to read and actually try and help the person out with it. Reality isn't something to be majorly upset about, but the effects that some reality situation has on the spirit is very important. Those types of problems are the kind that need to be staightened out or else it will leave a psychological scar. So don't think he's saying for everyone to shut up, he's just saying all stupid people shut up.

[Proteas]

At 2/4/04 08:01 PM, EefOofTheBeefBoof wrote: So don't think he's saying for everyone to shut up, he's just saying all stupid people shut up.

Freedom of speech is granted to everyone (in the U.S. and Canada at least). Just because someone is "stupid" doesn't mean they shouldn't be heard.

Who defines what is stupid anyway?

[EefOofClock]

At 2/4/04 08:13 PM, Proteas wrote:

At 2/4/04 08:01 PM, EefOofTheBeefBoof wrote: So don't think he's saying for everyone to shut up, he's just saying all stupid people shut up.

Freedom of speech is granted to everyone (in the U.S. and Canada at least). Just because someone is "stupid" doesn't mean they shouldn't be heard.

Who defines what is stupid anyway?

No, I don't agree with him at all. As the matter a fact, I encourage people to speak their mind so they can be helped. I was just trying to interperate it into better words.

[Synesthesia]

Got to find a clearer way to explain this...
Say, after about several centuries, finally blacks are emancipated.
Things have not really changed for them.
For one thing they cannot vote, many have become sharecroppers, which is no different than being a slave.
And yet whites will complain about THEIR rights being taken away just because slavery has been banned and they will make every attempt to keep things from being equal for decades later.
Although, it is true that poor whites lived no better than poor blacks. Both were suffering from starvation.
Both were oppressed by the rich.
Fast forward to the women's movement, women spent ages just trying to get the right to vote.
Then ages later you end up with men complaining that THEY are oppressed.
I just don't get it.
What does being oppressed really mean?

Saw this cool episode of the Sopranos where the Italians were complaining about Native Americans complaining about Columbus. Tony got mad at one of his crew members saying that it wasn't being Italian that got him this far, it was hard work.
That was interesting...

I think this satirycal article sums up a part of what Synesthesia was trying to explain.

[Proteas]

At 2/4/04 08:40 PM, punk_hippy wrote: I think this satirycal article sums up a part of what Synesthesia was trying to explain.

That there are people worse off than those complaining? I can understand that. I just wish he would have said it in the first post.

[mrpopenfresh]

I sais it once and I'll say it again; People will always find something to bitch about. period.

[bumcheekcity]

At 2/4/04 09:10 PM, mrpopenfresh wrote: I sais it once and I'll say it again; People will always find something to bitch about. period.

What is the fundamental argument of this thread? It's an impossibility to make out.

[mrpopenfresh]

At 2/5/04 02:32 AM, bumcheekcity wrote:about. period.

What is the fundamental argument of this thread? It's an impossibility to make out.

Im pretty sure that its that the guy who started this thread can't grasp that people with high standards of living (like us) bitch and whine while people whi have nothing shut up and make the best out of it. Well, atleast thats what i think it is.

[diazepim]

You are whining about people that are whining about whining.

SHUT UP.

Everyone I know have cars that are at most 3-4 years old... they all have cable and fast internet connection. And they all can go out to a casino and/or bar and blow like few hundred bucks everyweekend. And we eat at Outback and Texas Roadhouse and Applebee's... and sometimes Chili's and O'Charley's... and drink Mich Ultra bars of our choice... and we can do whatever we want...

That's american life...

In Germany you eat people and play with shit and masterbate by choking your balls and penis with a leather strap... that's German life. In Japan you eat shit and smear shit on little girls strapped to a table... that's Japanese life...

Who gives a crap... Germans and Japs might think eating shit during sex is sexy or they might not be able to get off without having shit play... MIGHT BE better than american life... BUT I have to say.. "How about NO, scott" or "How about... NO, Adolf Schintizlehaus"

In Africa... they spread AIDS by having sex with everybody else... pretty much like animals.... that's African Life....

In India... either you're high class son of a landlord... or you're a son of a sert... and you're life is like pretty much shit because of the Caste system... sorta like Slavery, but you call it Caste system.

In China... you're sold to American Sex Slave Trade if you're born a girl... because boys are valued so much....

In Korea... you're sold to American Sex Slave Trade because it's like China... and in N. Korea... you might be eaten because people are hungry.

In Middle East you pray to god like 5 times... inbetween whipping your wife and licking camel balls... masterbating to AMERICAN women.

They all might think their country and or culture is better than each other... I guess I think so, too.. .because I think US of America is better than sucking on camel balls or playing with shit.... but that's just me.

(In canada... they just hope the can be Americans. I don't blame them)

[lapslf]

At 2/5/04 05:56 PM, diazepim wrote:

:The biggest pile of bullshit and dipslay of ignorance that I have ever seen in this mortal life.

Have you ever actually been to any of those countries you talk about?

[diazepim]

At 2/5/04 06:05 PM, Veggiemeal wrote:

At 2/5/04 05:56 PM, diazepim wrote: The biggest pile of bullshit and dipslay of ignorance that I have ever seen in this mortal life.

Have you ever actually been to any of those countries you talk about?

I've been to Hong Kong, Japan, German, France, Canada, England, Switzerland, Austria, Mexico.

WHY THE HELL would I go to India? OR AFRICA? OR mainland CHINA?

Germans and Japans love playing with shit... I DON"T KNOW WHY!!!! I DON"T WANT TO KNOW WHY. Most Germans and Japanese are GAY and love playing with fecal matter during sexual play... again... I DON"T KNOW WHY and DON"T WANNA KNOW WHY.

I don't wanna get AIDS by going to AFRICA. 90% of World's HIV and AIDS are in AFRICA... I know why, because EVERYBODY has SEX WITH EVERYBODY... WHY would I want to go see that? All those TV commercial about Ethiopia and Africa.. how they are starving..?? BULLSHIT!!!!

IF they are TRULY Starving THEY shouldn't BE FUCKING... because when you're starving you don't even produce hormones to reproduce. IT"S JUST BAD PARENTING. Why would I want to see criminal parents fucking each other leaving babies to starve and rot and spreading AIDS!??!?!

India... I've heard of my friends who went to India... They said it's like Mexico.. but 1000 times DIRTIER. I don't know why... he said they burn trash in the streets like in the MIDDLE OF THE CITY. And after walking around and shopping you start coughing up Black mucus because of all the black smoke... and there are more kids without parent running around the streets.

AGAIN BAD PARENTING. I don't even wanna go there... I've been to Mexico... and that's BAD enough.. I cannot imagine being worse than Mexico.

All those poor countries talking about starving children?? BULLSHIT... If you have starving children... you should stop fucking. but NO... It's just BAD parenting.

As far as CANADA's concerned... they all wanna be AMERICANS that's why they speak english... and all the American Border Towns have life and population... otherwise rest of Canada is like Alberta... BARREN WASTELAND OF SNOW and ICE.

Point argued. Point taken. Point won, undeniably, undisputedly.

[diazepim]

Thirdly... CHINA and KOREA... they eat DOGS and CATS and EAT EVERYTHING THAT CRAWLS AND SLITHERS on Earth.

Why do you think GOD would punish China with SARS and Bird FLU?!?!?!? Because something unholy happens there... like harvesting HUMAN ORGANS to be sold to Americans in the black market?!??!?! I dunno...

I don't know playing with your shit or eating cats is worse.

Secondly, about Japan... it's been about 30,000 years since homo sapiens discovered fire... to cook food before you eat it?? Eating uncooked fish is probably WRONG... along with PLAYING with and EATING feces from your ASS.. There is a term called excrements of WASTE products... it's not to be played with... it's not to be eaten.. it's not to be sexually aroused by... which bring me to German... EATING people is BAD? Savage people in Africa and Papau New Guinea practice eating people as an abborent cultural practice which is discourage by 99% of world civilizations...

That's sorta why Africa is like Africa in the Black Hawk Down?!?! There is no regard for human lives... and they kill and spread AIDS and starve their own children like cattle. And that's why the Spanish killed off most of the savages eating people in savage lands.. because it's not NORMAL.

Even Animals do not practice cannibalism... maybe fish or insects... but for human? I thought playing with shit is bad... but please Germans... there's something wrong there when you are playing with shit... and EATing PEOPLE!!!!!

[mrpopenfresh]

At 2/5/04 07:00 PM, diazepim wrote:

:Blah blah blah blah blah, I like to rant alot.

Again, biggest pile of bullshit and dipslay of ignorance that I have ever seen in this mortal life. That rant wat utter bullshit. Canadians don't want to be americans, where the hell did you get that idea?

[diazepim]

At 2/5/04 07:14 PM, mrpopenfresh wrote:

At 2/5/04 07:00 PM, diazepim wrote:

Blah blah blah blah blah, I like to rant alot.

Again, biggest pile of bullshit and dipslay of ignorance that I have ever seen in this mortal life. That rant wat utter bullshit. Canadians don't want to be americans, where the hell did you get that idea?

You mark my words... You goto a german or japan schister webpage... you'll see a lot of people eating and playing with shit naked and getting aroused... Im not shooting from the hips... I speak from first hand experience. I knew a german girl who was into that shit... freaky... bondage/skat/torture shit... and she frequented Japan a lot... and hung out at bars and clubs... a WHOLE SUBCULTURE into a thing called "skat"... "schister"

and it's not bullshit... it's REAL human shit!!! I kid you not.

and ALL CANADA want to be a STATE in the UNION... that's A FACT!

[Synesthesia]

At 2/5/04 07:31 PM, diazepim wrote:

Stupid stuff

Dude... You are a moron. Just because you know a HANDFUL of people into something like that doesn't mean the whole country is. You sit here making BROAD SWEEPING GENERALIZATIONS and sounding like a right fool.
What do you really know about Japan or India or Africa if you can't take your head out of your own ass long enough to pay attention to what's going around you.,
So stop with the stereotypes already!

At 2/5/04 07:00 PM, diazepim wrote: I've been to Hong Kong, Japan, German, France, Canada, England, Switzerland, Austria, Mexico.

Prejudiced anecdotal evidence stemming from personal experience holds no worth as a legitimate argument when arguing cultural behavior.

Have a nice day.

[diazepim]

At 2/5/04 09:12 PM, punk_hippy wrote:
Prejudiced anecdotal evidence stemming from personal experience holds no worth as a legitimate argument when arguing cultural behavior.

Have a nice day.

Then how much experience do you need? How much do you have to see and say enough is enough!!!! How about NO! scott!!!!

I don't see or hear of Americans playing with doodoo nor Canada playing with doodoo.

Playing with doodoo is bad... german and japan is playing with doodoo... thereby German and Japan is bad... But WE already knew that from WWII, haven't we??!??!!??

[bumcheekcity]

Diazepam, congratulations at rreducing me to tears with the ignorance you successfully displayes in your abolve rants.

I now challenge you to give me sources for every single one of the claims you made.

[mrpopenfresh]

At 2/5/04 07:31 PM, diazepim wrote:
You mark my words... You goto a german or japan schister webpage... you'll see a lot of people eating and playing with shit naked and getting aroused...

Thats what makes them shit porno pages. Im sure there's american ones as well, but I'd rather not find out about them.

I speak from first hand experience.

Heh, hands,

I knew a german girl who was into that shit... freaky... bondage/skat/torture shit... and she frequented Japan a lot... and hung out at bars and clubs... a WHOLE SUBCULTURE into a thing called "skat"... "schister"

Boy, you seem to know about skat. And besides, its not because she was german that she necessairly like to play with her shit. Its pretty safe to say that the majority of germans would rather not play with their feces.

and ALL CANADA want to be a STATE in the UNION... that's A FACT!

No it isn't. Im canadian and I don't want to become a state.

[diazepim]

At 2/6/04 03:50 PM, mrpopenfresh wrote:
Thats what makes them shit porno pages. Im sure there's american ones as well, but I'd rather not find out about them.

Nope, Americans would NEVER DO something that GROSS... we might abduct and kill Charlie Brucia or Stacey or laci peterson and eat people and keep ass in the fridge Jeff Dahmer but american's would never play with poopoo.

Boy, you seem to know about skat. And besides, its not because she was german that she necessairly like to play with her shit. Its pretty safe to say that the majority of germans would rather not play with their feces.

Only because she said it was fun, and I tried it but it stunk so bad that I had to leave the country. Bernd Brandes at people, too... so Dahmer isn't american... he's german... because Germans eat people. I away thought bratwurst were sausages made from like pigs and stuff... but I'm beginning to think maybe Bratwurst is really Bradwurst like your friend Brad from school... so I guess there's like Jasonwurst and Scottwurst and Gregwursts.

and ALL CANADA want to be a STATE in the UNION... that's A FACT!

No it isn't. Im canadian and I don't want to become a state.

Yeah, but that's you... the rest of canadians... all 39 of them want to be in the union. Ask Jim Carrey and Mel Gibson.

[RedSkunk]

that was a good onion article, whoever posted it =P

and, from what Diazem is posting - Maybe you should stop hanging out with a bunch of people obsessed with their own crap. Doesn't sound like the coolest crowd..

[diazepim]

At 2/6/04 12:20 PM, bumcheekcity wrote: Diazepam, congratulations at rreducing me to tears with the ignorance you successfully displayes in your abolve rants.

I now challenge you to give me sources for every single one of the claims you made.

heheheee... which ones? I can back them all up.

I didn't link porn site for the sake of porn, but a real occupation of a girl... it said something like 21 year old occupation: slut. and I thought it was pretty funny to have an occupation like that.