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Response to Stop buying computers! 2009-07-29 21:53:36 Reply

Yes, that is all fine and dandy, but what you don't understand is most people are lazy.

Like me for example.

My opinions are so useless, I don't even listen to them.

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Response to Stop buying computers! 2009-07-29 22:06:36 Reply

I don't know why anyone would buy from dell in the first place when you can go to www.ecollegepc.com

They're the only prebuilt site ive seen that charges what a prebuilt should really cost. They mark up a very reasonable cost for labor unlike SOME companies. They also tell you EVERYTHING to the exact model that is in the computer you will buy unlike people dell who give you a junk case and PSU and no name RAM / mobos.

Anyway, its fine if you don't want to make your own because you don't want to take the effort, JUST FOR GODS SAKE DON'T BUY FROM DELL OR HP OR IBUYPOWER OR CYBERPOWER NUMBNUTS. Seriously, they all overcharge like crazy. But really the best of anything has to be built by yourself. If you want a good bike then its best to buy every part yourself and assemble it...its the same deal for computers.

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Response to Stop buying computers! 2009-07-29 22:32:58 Reply

At 7/29/09 09:49 PM, Bolo wrote: more trolling

Okay, you're seriously derailing this thread here.

Back to the topic at hand; I've been wanting to do a build since a few years back, but obviously money has been really tight on me to do anything. Recently I've been thinking about doing this kind of build (note I already have an adequate case and power supply). I just can't wait to get the money for it; of course when that happens I'll just wait until Windows 7 OEM gets on the market.

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Response to Stop buying computers! 2009-07-29 22:33:17 Reply

I built my desktop, and I am extremely satisfied. It will last me a few years until I think I have to do a complete overhaul. Built in a Lian Li a05b that I modded to help with cooling. I've sleeved most of the cables and I have done some cable management. I am really satisfied with the way it came out. I am going to the Nor' Easter LAN party this weekend and I will be in seat E21. Come and see!

I also have a Lenovo Thinkpad T400 notebook that I am using right now. This is sick, it is not store bought.

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Response to Stop buying computers! 2009-07-30 08:26:56 Reply

I just got started on some, I will post links soon

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Response to Stop buying computers! 2009-07-30 08:46:49 Reply

Even if you're afraid you might break something, most bigger hardware stores build your computer for you for a nominal fee. Here it's about 50 euro and you don't even have to do anything your self other than choosing what parts you want. It's really that easy.


So zetta slow!

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Response to Stop buying computers! 2009-07-30 08:53:58 Reply

Some of us are too lazy


Stop That

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Response to Stop buying computers! 2009-07-30 08:57:05 Reply

At 7/30/09 08:53 AM, Munzy wrote: Some of us are too lazy

I think you are the biggest idiot to hit this thread.

Can you at least read? I mean fuck, it takes 24 minutes for me to pick out legit and good computer parts but you go ahead and walk on up to bestbuy and waste your money on an emachines that couldn't even play halo 2 on "low."

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Response to Stop buying computers! 2009-07-30 09:11:52 Reply

Putting together a computer might seem like something only tech experts could do, but it really is an easy task. All that's required of you is the time and effort to educate yourself. This is the basic checklist of parts you will need to buy

effort, something nobody here has any of


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Response to Stop buying computers! 2009-07-30 09:21:17 Reply

Can I build a laptop?

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Response to Stop buying computers! 2009-07-30 09:25:33 Reply

I have a custom buid built by the shop i went to. I just gave them £500 and said make it spec for gaming and they did. Just have to replace parts now and again.

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Response to Stop buying computers! 2009-07-30 09:39:46 Reply

At 7/30/09 09:21 AM, JackPhantasm wrote: Can I build a laptop?

The closest you can come to building a laptop is buying a barebone kitand adding the hard drive, RAM, and CPU, and Dvd drive.

Laptops have a ton of proprietary hardware, so building a scratch laptop probably won't come to fruition any time soon. It's not economical to build a barebone over buying a laptop, but then again, neither is buying a laptop over a desktop.

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Response to Stop buying computers! 2009-07-30 09:40:22 Reply

At 7/30/09 09:39 AM, ThoseSneakyFrench wrote:
Laptops have a ton of proprietary hardware, so building a scratch laptop probably won't come to fruition any time soon. It's not economical to build a barebone over buying a laptop, but then again, neither is buying a laptop over a desktop.

I am required to have a laptop for school.

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Response to Stop buying computers! 2009-07-30 09:58:19 Reply

agreed. i have been surfing store websites for a new computer now (my computer was bought in 07 but its a 2002 model) but i figured it would take me close to a year to save for it. now i have bought more RAM and USB 2.0 expansion module and i found a decent (CRYSIS MEDIUM!) graphics card for 80 euros. i decided to start upgrading instead. after this, i will buy a new case (small town, 3000 people, one independent computer store and the stores owners son saved me from drowning when i was a kid, gives me discounts) and ask the owner to swap the parts from my computer to the new more customisable case. srsly, this computer has a 150 gig hard drive and its bolted on and there arent places for extra fans. and it came with a ball mouse.


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Response to Stop buying computers! 2009-07-30 09:59:57 Reply

At 7/29/09 10:33 PM, Tinkco86 wrote: I built my desktop, and I am extremely satisfied. It will last me a few years until I think I have to do a complete overhaul. Built in a Lian Li a05b that I modded to help with cooling.

Mmm hawt shit. Is that a huge northbridge cooler that I see?

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Response to Stop buying computers! 2009-07-30 09:59:58 Reply

Too lazy, buying is faster.


You know what would be really neat? These things actually being noticeable.

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Response to Stop buying computers! 2009-07-30 10:02:49 Reply

I don't have the commitment to make my own computer. I'm perfectly happy with my Mac because it does everything I need it for, which doesn't include gaming.

A little overpriced? Maybe. But I love it so it's worth the money to me.


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Response to Stop buying computers! 2009-07-30 10:06:36 Reply

At 7/30/09 09:39 AM, ThoseSneakyFrench wrote: but then again, neither is buying a laptop over a desktop.

Desktops are impractical for college, which means that laptops are a necessary evil as you get older


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Response to Stop buying computers! 2009-07-30 10:08:16 Reply

At 7/30/09 10:02 AM, HolyTomato wrote: I don't have the commitment to make my own computer. I'm perfectly happy with my Mac because it does everything I need it for, which doesn't include gaming.

A little overpriced? Maybe. But I love it so it's worth the money to me.

A little?

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Response to Stop buying computers! 2009-07-30 10:14:37 Reply

i bet you do ^_^


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Response to Stop buying computers! 2009-07-30 10:16:08 Reply

i bet you do ^_^


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Response to Stop buying computers! 2009-07-30 10:48:18 Reply

At 7/30/09 10:06 AM, HolyTomato wrote:
At 7/30/09 09:39 AM, ThoseSneakyFrench wrote: but then again, neither is buying a laptop over a desktop.
Desktops are impractical for college, which means that laptops are a necessary evil as you get older

There is always compromise. For example, let's say I take college courses which require heavy use of 3D rendering programs. To run a task like that, I'm going to need a fair amount of horsepower, especially from my graphics card. A laptop like this would do the job, but holy hell look at that price tag. Now, the specs of a part and it's laptop counterpart are different; the laptop part is usually underclocked to fit within heat limits.

For about $900 (rough estimate), I could build a more powerful, desktop version of the same computer, and then get a netbook, like this one. As long as I only need a laptop for taking notes in class, I can do all my rendering at my desk and save a bunch of money in the process.

Now, I know I'm stretching it with a hypothetical like this, but I'm just trying to prove the DIY solution can apply to a much larger market than most people think.

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Response to Stop buying computers! 2009-07-30 11:10:02 Reply

I'm an idiot. I could have just built my laptop, instead of buying one. Should have built my TV too. Wait, you can build your own things without having to pay for them prebuilt? CRAZY TALK.


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Response to Stop buying computers! 2009-07-30 11:35:00 Reply

At 7/30/09 11:25 AM, Grubby wrote: I would never build a a laptop.

Laptops are meant to be sleek, portable, well polished, compact, and feature rich for a small size, something that's very hard to achieve by trying to squeeze all the parts magically together in a laptop kit.

Exactly.


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Response to Stop buying computers! 2009-07-30 12:31:38 Reply

Companies that sell pre-built computers exist much like the way car companies exist.

Many people do not have the time, skill or patience to build a machine from the ground up. How many people do you know built a kit car?

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Response to Stop buying computers! 2009-07-30 12:36:45 Reply

At 7/30/09 09:59 AM, Frank-The-Hedgehog wrote: Too lazy, buying is faster.

go to the shop, buy a crappy computer, go home.
go to the shop, buy awesome parts for the same price as the crappy computer, go home, spend an hour or two building it, play crysis on max settings. worth it?


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Response to Stop buying computers! 2009-07-30 12:44:13 Reply

At 7/30/09 12:31 PM, Idocreating wrote: Companies that sell pre-built computers exist much like the way car companies exist.

Many people do not have the time, skill or patience to build a machine from the ground up. How many people do you know built a kit car?

Are you a retard or something? When I was building a computer for the first timeit took me a couple of hours. Also it was a fun experience.

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Response to Stop buying computers! 2009-07-30 12:50:03 Reply

I prefer store-buying computers, then adding alot of stuff from my old computer (EG, my old harddrive + an empty new one = win)

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Response to Stop buying computers! 2009-07-30 12:52:47 Reply

I'm planning to build a top-of-the-line PC in the next few months. Fuck buying pre-made ones. I may have plenty of money but I'm not gonna waste it.

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Response to Stop buying computers! 2009-07-30 12:55:30 Reply

You people are idiots. This isn't about other people or laptops or cars. This is about YOU and DESKTOP computers. In YOUR situation, would you rather go out and buy a more expensive, lower quality product just to get some instant gratification, or spend a day or two on newegg and google to order something you can do yourself, be proud of, and make cheaper?

For the record, building a car is a TERRIBLE comparison to building a desktop. Building a computer requires a screwdriver and some knowledge. Home brewing a vehicle takes tools and years of mechanic experience. Show me where you can learn to build a car in two days? In reality, there isn't even that much to be known about assembling a computer. The sum is maybe 3 or 4 articles about the same size as my OP. If you took the time to read that, why the hell can't you build a computer?