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At 7/29/09 02:14 PM, SoulMaster71 wrote: Honestly, while we're in the middle of an economic crisis and have so many other issues to deal with (everything from illegal aliens to North Korean nukes), only the crazies are paying any attention to "global warming" bullshit. It's just not an important issue right now, we have much more pressing matters to deal with.

Isn't preferring short term solutions over long term ones part of our problem?

right on!

Global warming is fake. It's just the Earth's orientation.

idiot

I'm not sure what is going on globally, but my region has experienced a very cool and wet summer. NYC didn't get above 85F in June, something that has only happened 3 times before in our short weather history.

I know! Its rained every other day this summer.
What the fuck is with that?
I SHOULD BE OUTSIDE RIGHT NOW.

yeah, Global warming isn't a BS thing, I thought we were done with this shit in 04...

btw Wade, did you get my PM?

At 7/29/09 12:55 PM, iwantbrainz wrote: I cant believe that people think that global warming is fake thats like thinking the holocaust was fake.

there's no evidence for not believing in the holocaust. however there's tons upon tons of facts against global warming so the fact that you even compare global warming to the holocaust is just illiterate

Here is some of many evidence out there in the world..

In 1939 it snowed in miami ever since that day it never snowed again.... i mean come on isint that all you need to know?

its not supposed to snow in Miami as many people have stated on this forum.

Another piece of evidence...

In 2005-2007 i dont remember i was vacationing my family was in north caroline the tempature was 100 degrees im pretty sure in the 1900s it was never 100 degrees.

check this chart

Find your own evidence look through google and find all the global droughts

looks like it goes up and down all the time with no particular pattern.

Find that in brazil 1000 fish died in a lake cause of low oxygen levels were in the wate

what does this have to do with global warming?

Find that the ice caps are fucking melting at a alarming rate

no there actually growing...... at an alarming rate. here's my proof

Watch a movie where a guy says something bads gonna happen and the people are like you are a fucking dumbass nothing is gonna happen then boom something terribly wrong happens cause it might be like that one day.

hey something in this article i actually agree with. sorta. people will say that all this government money is gonna be wasted on "environmentally friendly" and were gonna be in even deeper shit than we are now and everyone's gonna be like "no. that can't possibly happen" and then it's gonna happen and then were going to say "in your face" and for all you people who say it will create more environmentally friendly jobs in another country for every 1 environmentally friendly job they lose 3.6 normal jobs.

watch this movie http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zORv8wwia dQ&feature=fvw

please explain how you believe in global warming with this evidence. polar bear population is up, that petition signed by "scientist" wasn't truthfull. there was a conference about global warming and anyone who came in was put on that list. some of these people weren't even scientist. as for the science of greenhouse gasses. carbon dioxide or CO2 is to thin for it to block anything in. they compare greenhouse gasses to a greenhouse..... a greenhouse has GLASS AROUND IT!!!! and last time i checked cars didn't put out glass. i mean correct me if i'm wrong. and don't tell me the debate is over. if the debate is over then show me HOW it's over. All Gore is currently being sued by 30.000 scientist 9000 with PhD's. and All Gore won't come on tv and debate with them. why? cause he can't argue with them. i once made a huge report on how global warming wasn't real.

That really make sense. Do your fucking research next time, cause the national weather service reported that this was the coldest summer in years,

Global warming has always been fake, just some made up thing to distract the retards from serious issues.

The biggest affects are in Scandinavia, there's barely any snow here anymore in the winter. Warm winters and rainy summers pretty much.

Disasters don't happen. If they did, the world would be a terrible place.

At 7/29/09 07:50 PM, nehemiah135 wrote:

At 7/29/09 12:55 PM, iwantbrainz wrote: I cant believe that people think that global warming is fake thats like thinking the holocaust was fake.

there's no evidence for not believing in the holocaust. however there's tons upon tons of facts against global warming so the fact that you even compare global warming to the holocaust is just illiterate

Actually there is evidence in not believing in the holocaust but those who choose to believe are also ignoring several other aspects which go into the belief of holocaust denial

Here is some of many evidence out there in the world..

In 1939 it snowed in miami ever since that day it never snowed again.... i mean come on isint that all you need to know?

its not supposed to snow in Miami as many people have stated on this forum.

you're a moron do you know what he meant when he said it snowed in Miami? Global Warming causing irregular seasonal patterns. The only thing you could done to combat this is daid that 1939 is pretty damn long time ago showing us that the earth does in fact go through regular warming periods.

Another piece of evidence...

In 2005-2007 i dont remember i was vacationing my family was in north caroline the tempature was 100 degrees im pretty sure in the 1900s it was never 100 degrees.

check this chart

you just gave more evidence, notice how it never goes up past 90 DURRR

Find your own evidence look through google and find all the global droughts

looks like it goes up and down all the time with no particular pattern.

Find that in brazil 1000 fish died in a lake cause of low oxygen levels were in the wate

what does this have to do with global warming?

Find that the ice caps are fucking melting at a alarming rate

no there actually growing...... at an alarming rate. here's my proof

lmao that's a blog. Not evidence plus if you actually look at it the graphs show absolutly nothing of that. It shows ice cap melting trends but they have dropped the lowest in 2008 and 2009.

please explain how you believe in global warming with this evidence. polar bear population is up, that petition signed by "scientist" wasn't truthfull. there was a conference about global warming and anyone who came in was put on that list. some of these people weren't even scientist. as for the science of greenhouse gasses. carbon dioxide or CO2 is to thin for it to block anything in. they compare greenhouse gasses to a greenhouse..... a greenhouse has GLASS AROUND IT!!!! and last time i checked cars didn't put out glass. i mean correct me if i'm wrong. and don't tell me the debate is over. if the debate is over then show me HOW it's over. All Gore is currently being sued by 30.000 scientist 9000 with PhD's. and All Gore won't come on tv and debate with them. why? cause he can't argue with them. i once made a huge report on how global warming wasn't real.

please tell me you're a troll. PEASE tell me only so that I can understand why you are so fucking stupid.

At 7/29/09 07:03 PM, WadeFulp wrote: Fake or real, man made, or not, the global warming scare is simply a means for people to make money from it. If you look into it you will always find money involved. The government wants to tax the shit out of us to deal with global warming, but it simply comes down to certain politicians wanting more money.

Many scientists have received funding to study global warming. If they deny there is global warming their funding would stop, so they try to keep the scare going by pointing out anything they can to warrant further research and continued funding.

If we are having global warming that isn't a bad thing. I'd be more worried about global cooling, which we could be going into as well.

I'm not sure what is going on globally, but my region has experienced a very cool and wet summer. NYC didn't get above 85F in June, something that has only happened 3 times before in our short weather history.

Some interesting facts:
1) Of the two founding members of GreenPeace, one left because the group was becoming too much of a political business and not a charity organization. The other one (who remained) was quoted to saying (roughly, I am far too lazy to look up the exact quote), "We make money by telling everyone that the world is going to Hell."

2) The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (I.P.C.C.) is an association that prides itself in being the "leading" climate change research institute. Furthermore, they profess that they have 2000 scientists backing them. Both of these claims are wrong. Personally, I believe that the Global Warming Heartland institute is more humane, charitable, and well-backed. Also, the IPCC's "2000 scientists" are made up of politicians, business executives, interest group leaders, and a handful of actual scientists. The process by which they release reports is:
i) Scientists produce "accurate" results".
ii) Political minds receive these results and "correct" them.
iii) The public receives said "results".

Also.... Global Warming Heartland is 100% charity. No actual money involved except for perhaps a webmaster or two. The IPCC is well-paid. IF Anthropogenic Global Warming did not exist.... the entire institution would disappear, and all of those people would be laid off. Of course.... they would NEVER have ANY reason to NOT support Global Warming, right?

3) Warm, not hot or cold, climates have marked times of economic success. Cold weather usually marks economic failure.

4) I have noticed very rapid, unusual changes in the weather, a little on the cooler side. It's rather distressing, and marks climate change to me. Although, whether or not it is Global Warming is debatable.

Rantingly,

Death-Cannon

At 7/29/09 02:14 PM, SoulMaster71 wrote: Honestly, while we're in the middle of an economic crisis and have so many other issues to deal with (illegal aliens nukes)

Oh my god.

when global warming happens it doesnt get hotter it gets colder i know this because a lot of my friends study this stuff for a job. or u can just watch "The Day After Tomorrow"

Sure, while global warming and the reasons behind it may be total shit, our climate IS changing. Natural climate change is very real, and it's occurring right now. And guess what? It's not just planet Earth experiencing this. I won't go into any specific details unless asked, but I would like to throw in that this has happened many times in the past. Additionally, it may not be such a bad idea to learn the basics of survival and start stocking up on canned goods, not only because of climate change, but lets face it, it never hurts to be prepared for anything the world has to throw at us.

At 7/30/09 03:33 AM, AnonymousAlchemist wrote: It's actually been a cool summer. Unusual for Colorado.

It started being cooler last summer.

Record setting lows across the entire US this month.

Seriously, people must stop thinking that global warming is going to make the world a warmer place! What's gonna happen is that the weather is going to get more violent and storms will appear more frequent. The Gulf stream is going to collapse and a new ice age will start.
And do you wanna know the big bad news? WE CAN'T STOP IT! It's too late.

Thank our anchestors for nothing -.-

At 7/29/09 01:07 PM, milinko959 wrote:

At 7/29/09 01:03 PM, homor wrote:

At 7/29/09 12:55 PM, iwantbrainz wrote:

it hasn't snowed in Miami ever again because ITS NOT SUPPOSED SNOW IN MIAMI YOU IDIOT.

Not to mention that it snowed in Las Vegas this past winter for the first time in what? 40 years? Quite interesting how weather works eh?

Not to mention that it snowed at LAKE LEVEL in tahoe two years ago.

Who gives a shit, anyway?

not sure what to belive but it does have science backing it up

Weirdly enough back in the 1980's scientists predicted that we'd be in an ice age right now.
What ever happened to that?

I think this is a natural phenomenon. Generally in weather their are opposing patterns such as high and low pressure systems, high and low tidea and periods that create conditions that increase and decrease the chance of cyclones or hurricanes. There are also periodic cycles in weather patterns and both the moon and sun play an important factor.

Based on these patterns there must be conditions that can naturally create an opposite to the ice age and humans haven't been studying the weather long enough to figure out all the patterns.

Parts of the Earth are heating up, other parts are cooling down so I conclude the global warming at the moment may not affect the entire planet and since it isn't even consistent among populated or industrial areas humans can't possibly be a major factor.

At 7/29/09 12:57 PM, Excursius wrote: yesand this explaind why this summer has not been over 80 digreese in illinois? yeah, i win.

Yea that blew the better 2/3rds of our sumer we coulden't swim in our pool, it was like 60-70 all summer x.x

At 7/29/09 12:55 PM, iwantbrainz wrote: In 2005-2007 i dont remember i was vacationing my family was in north caroline the tempature was 100 degrees im pretty sure in the 1900s it was never 100 degrees.

Errrr....What? I hope you mean fahrenheit

At 7/29/09 09:38 PM, aquaticmole wrote: please tell me you're a troll. PEASE tell me only so that I can understand why you are so fucking stupid.

isn't it funny how the guy you claim is a troll actually backed up his claims with sources and you're just talking out of your ass?

At 7/29/09 12:57 PM, Excursius wrote: yesand this explaind why this summer has not been over 80 digreese in illinois? yeah, i win.

I know this was kinda far back in the thread, but I live in IL and I have to call bullshit. It's been over 90 on several days so far.

At 7/29/09 09:38 PM, aquaticmole wrote:

please tell me you're a troll. PEASE tell me only so that I can understand why you are so fucking stupid.

also, you instantly blew your entire argument by acknowledging Holocaust Denial as anything other than complete crap.

seriously, there are absolutely zero "good" aspects of the belief. anyone who believes it is either stupid, a frothing at the mouth Hitler loving racist. or both.

if anything, i'm hoping YOU are a troll. you're just that fucking stupid.