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As a fascist, I resent your sig. I happen to pretty funny, damnit.

As to my solution for ending hostiliies in the Gaza strip, build a city in space, and drop it on the inhabitants......You never read Revelation, did you? Never mind then.....

ok, Israel is wrong in this whole mess, but Palestinians are making the wrong response.

Sharon is a horrible man to be placed in charge of the state, what with his constant vendetta and hatred Arafat dating back to his days in the special forces. Theres little chance that he will give the palestinians any fair treatment, So simply put, he hates Palestine

oh and judge funk, the city from the sky comes after the second coming and the rapture and the bloodshed and all the other crazy
shit that goes down. See ya there

At 2/7/04 09:56 PM, kada wrote: ok, Israel is wrong in this whole mess, but Palestinians are making the wrong response.

No, they're both wrong. They're both bombing and killing, and now it's just because their fathers bombed and killed. I'll tell you for free that the children will gerow up to be bombers and killers too.

At 2/8/04 03:14 AM, bumcheekcity wrote: No, they're both wrong. They're both bombing and killing, and now it's just because their fathers bombed and killed. I'll tell you for free that the children will gerow up to be bombers and killers too.

I went to see a speaker, hmm, last week, who's spent a lot of time in Palestine, and she said that the single hardest thing for them to do, is to raise their children. She was talking about the security fence, and was talking about this one child, who spent all of his free time staring at the wall being constructed, not even a hundred feet from their apartment complex. And I do believe that their building has to be torn down at some point too, being too close to the finished wall. Guess his feelings towards Israeli's by the time he's late teens, early twenties?

Y'know, skunk (and everyone else), your topic on Affirmative Action is Necessary also speaks to the issues of racism/racial hatred in Palestine and Israel I think. I mentioned in that excellent forum (Skunk gives reems of background material, great stuff) that I had just seen the movie "American History X" which is about a kid who lives in LA and whose father, a firemen, was shot and killed while putting out a fire in a black neighborhood. The kid grows up being a neo-nazi, but over the course of murdering some blacks and going to jail, he learns some hard lessons about his own hatred and how it blinded him to the illogic of his own racist views - views that were handed down to him by his father. Most have probably already seen this movie. But can you see how this is the very problem of raising kids in either Palestine or Israel right now, when violence and hatred are so forcefully at play along racial divisions, to the point that you can't really escape it. If your Palestinian, its probably a safe bet that most Israeli's hate you and you will be in danger if you go there. Likewise for Israelis. But the killing and illogical hatred has to stop sometime. I thought Clinton has made the most productive effort in the last few years, at least to cool things down a bit so people could have the space to think about how stupid the whole thing really is.

At 2/8/04 03:28 AM, red_skunk wrote: ...Guess his feelings towards Israeli's by the time he's late teens, early twenties?

Sad, really, because neither population are evil, just misguided.

At 2/8/04 02:23 PM, bumcheekcity wrote:

At 2/8/04 03:28 AM, red_skunk wrote: ...Guess his feelings towards Israeli's by the time he's late teens, early twenties?

Sad, really, because neither population are evil, just misguided.

I agree, bumcheek. However, some of the leaders, like Sharon and admittedly Arafat, have been unbelievably unethical aside from the ancient race struggles. Here is the latest from Harper's Weekly:
"Israel attempted the
assassination of an Islamic Jihad leader by firing a missile
at his car in Gaza City but succeeded only in killing an
aide and a 14-year-old bystander. Israeli police questioned
Prime Minister Ariel Sharon in connection with a bribery
investigation."
I mean, this is absolutely rediculous. Where is the world court in all of this? Where is the U.S., the self-appointed police force of the world? Does any responsible government fire off rockets within an urban area when innocent civilians might be killed? Or maybe they don't care when the urban area is not technically in their country (and the U.S. is just as guilty of this).