Soro, you're talking about a small group of HHNG posters, and this fight will continue ad infinitum because, as I've said before, sampling is a part of hip-hop, and if sampling is so evil that it must be eradicated then so are the remakes and downright midi rips of copywritten video game music, techno, rock, punk, goth, and even some of the expressly stolen sheet music from contemporary orchestral music. On the sheet music I remember, while in stage and marching bands through middle and high school, there is a copyright section maintaining that failure to purchase the rights to record, and play for the general public, the piece from the publishing company holding said rights is a breach in copyright laws. This is with contemporary, modern music and not with long dead composers mind you, yet I guarantee there are pieces that have been uploaded here which were recorded from sheet music with no consideration for getting publishing rights, which is in direct violation of CC licensing.
Before it's stated, how would you police that issue if you're an admin or mod of this site? You can't, but this just brings to light the very reason that the policing of the vast majority of the CC licensing rules has lead to nothing but in-fighting amongst musicians and producers here, but I find it funny that only in discussions about acapellas used in techno remixes and sampling in the hip-hop portal do we find this discussion frothing with such hatred and over-generalization. Why is it that NO ONE ever addresses my constant comments on the fact that all video game music is copywritten? Because we all know that it is, we all know that it's illegal to remake, remix, or rip video game music, yet we don't like to admit it because that would prove that hip-hop and Techno, the most maligned sections of the site, are not the evil that they are painted to be. And, since contemporary sheet music is also copywritten, I'd hazard few if any of the orchestral producers and musicians here who've uploaded their audio versions of Thomas Ades "Selections from 'The Tempest'" or music from Alexei Rybnikov's "Juno" (merely examples of copywritten, contemporary music) would like to admit that they are breaking ToS of the CC license.
Regardless, hip-hop music is NOT made up entirely of the "bad apples" that we all seem to be discussing at length, not that sampling is a "bad apple" medium anymore so than painting nude models is, but both are seen by certain "artistic elitists" as not having a place in their world view of music and art, respectively. And really that's what it comes down to, the passing over of the field full of bright stars to pick at the rotting apples, so to speak. Most people who are not hip-hop heads look at hip-hop as the culmination of it's mistakes rather than as the amalgamation of it's extremely wide influences.
Yes, we have some banal, repetitive, meaningless skeletons in the closet of hip-hop, and more of those are seen as the "face" of our genre on a daily basis, but don't presume that, because there are 5 artists looping your beloved "Moonlight Sonata" with a horribly looped break from a 70's disco record, there are no other forms of hip-hop, no beautiful compositions, no catchy and new pieces of hip-hop infused music, and no one willing to take a chance on something. We're here, but many of us are sick enough of this conversation, debate, and arguement that we don't blast a horn every five seconds to let you all know how to find us. If you want to find us, you will.
