Would it be possible to limit the number of accounts each ip can make? And since that won't stop proxy servers, is there a way for the site to tell if a proxy is being used? I was just thinking how much harder it would make it for spam groups to overpopulate newgrounds but I doubt it would work since that would be to easy and would most likely have been implemented by now....
I fear for future generations
At 7/25/09 10:40 PM, Scrotaculous wrote: is there a way for the site to tell if a proxy is being used?
Can't stop a level 1 proxy/HA proxy. Sorry.
Dexter Season 5: "Psychopaths in love. It's like Zodiac and Juliet."
The efforts in creating a system to thwart evil-doers who use multiple IPs is more trouble than it's worth
Try suggesting it here and see what they think. It could be the start of a good idea.
At 7/25/09 10:42 PM, Shinzura wrote: Admins do IP Ban if its serious enough
Yeah but the proxy servers ruin that. So if they can create a system that would take away the ability to view the site using a proxy, then it would be a fixed system.
At 7/25/09 10:45 PM, woodwoman88 wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0z17P2H7Z _s
Didn't see that coming............
At 7/25/09 10:43 PM, STEM wrote: The efforts in creating a system to thwart evil-doers who use multiple IPs is more trouble than it's worth
I'll create one.
For moderator status. :-P
"Great power comes with chains..."
Why should we suffer because somebody abuses the system?
suffer is maybe not the word I'd use actually.
At 7/25/09 10:43 PM, STEM wrote: The efforts in creating a system to thwart evil-doers who use multiple IPs is more trouble than it's worth
And don't computers share IP addresses? A user might have his IP banned when he didn't do anything.
At 7/25/09 10:48 PM, bgraybr wrote:At 7/25/09 10:43 PM, STEM wrote: The efforts in creating a system to thwart evil-doers who use multiple IPs is more trouble than it's worthAnd don't computers share IP addresses? A user might have his IP banned when he didn't do anything.
Only if they use AOL or something similar. The only exception would be people who live in oppressive countries or people at work.
My ISP charges extra for static IPs so their are millions of people using it who can potentially share the same IP address at different times. Limiting the number of accounts per IP would hurt anyone using this provider and I'm sure their are millions more around the world also have variable IP addresses and as a result it would cause more problems than it solves.
I for one am in support of alt accounts ...
At 7/25/09 10:43 PM, Scrotaculous wrote:At 7/25/09 10:42 PM, Shinzura wrote: Admins do IP Ban if its serious enoughYeah but the proxy servers ruin that. So if they can create a system that would take away the ability to view the site using a proxy, then it would be a fixed system.
Hey! I'm on a proxy right now!
The redesign happened, now my signature doesn't match anymore.
At 7/26/09 12:38 AM, Hearshot wrote: I for one am in support of alt accounts ...
It's just that there wouldn't be half as many problems if they didn't exist. People can't be trusted to do the right thing in most cases.
At 7/26/09 12:41 AM, Scrotaculous wrote: It's just that there wouldn't be half as many problems if they didn't exist. People can't be trusted to do the right thing in most cases.
Yeah, true. I think they're useful in certain situations but only when used in moderation. Far too many people take advantage of them.
I'm against any such efforts being that I get paid double for each alt I fuck in the ass and I'm also aware of many alts of rule breaking/trouble making main accts that contribute quality stuff to the site, on the BBS, the flash portal and audio portal.
I don't know abou you, but I enjoy the freedom to make alts.
At 7/26/09 01:00 AM, Digital-Terror wrote: I don't know abou you, but I enjoy the freedom to make alts.
I agree 100% with this statement.
At 7/26/09 12:57 AM, EyeLovePoozy wrote: I'm against any such efforts being that I get paid double for each alt I fuck in the ass and I'm also aware of many alts of rule breaking/trouble making main accts that contribute quality stuff to the site, on the BBS, the flash portal and audio portal.
Yeah you get paid hahahahahahahahahaha. But yeah, I know most people are good, I just was referring to spammers such as your pals over at the Duck Division.
At 7/26/09 01:01 AM, Scrotaculous wrote: Yeah you get paid hahahahahahahahahaha. But yeah, I know most people are good, I just was referring to spammers such as your pals over at the Duck Division.
Those old news limp dicks paid last months lease payments on two of my vehicles...
Not to mention 3/4 of last month's mortgage payment on one of my Virgina porperties.
Most people where using alts to be safe from the DD. I don't know if they're still deleting accounts or not.
Yeah you get paid hahahahahahahahahaha. But yeah, I know most people are good, I just was referring to spammers such as your pals over at the Duck Division.Those old news limp dicks paid last months lease payments on two of my vehicles...
Not to mention 3/4 of last month's mortgage payment on one of my Virgina porperties.
I heard the duck division is a prime target of the SFH. There fucked.
At 7/26/09 01:00 AM, Digital-Terror wrote: I don't know abou you, but I enjoy the freedom to make alts.
What happened to this:
"Alts are fine as long as they are not abused."
-Wade Fulp
What's wrong with alts? Tom has an alt, Wade has an alt, Stamper has two or three (I think), I'm sure some of the mods have alts, and plenty of non-abusive, rule-following users have alts. I have, like, 8 or 9 by now, plus access to a couple of shared accounts. As long as they're not used to steal RCP or something, who cares? Alts are only dangerous when you get alliterative alliances together to spam the Portal and steal awards, or when used for ban evasion, or something like that. And thinking about the number of alts out there, that's probably a relatively rare use.
Plus, dynamic IPs. Even if I was IP banned from making new accounts, five minutes later I could have a new account anyway just by resetting my router. So what would prevent me, even given a one-account-per-IP limit, from making 10, 20 accounts anyway? Factor in Tor, you're looking at an army of sockpuppets the likes of which hasn't been seen at least since the redesign, even with a limit. A limit as you propose would be ineffective, to say the least.
I have an alt, although, I haven't used it for a few days. My alt is linked in sig, and I'm getting off to sleep for the rest of the morning.
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