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At 7/28/09 05:23 AM, shini-gami wrote:

He's being sarcastic....

i was trying to be funny :(
*goes to his room and cries over his fail*

*smears creamcheese on your face and beats you with a toliet plunger

At 7/28/09 05:31 AM, OddlyPoetic wrote:

At 7/28/09 05:23 AM, shini-gami wrote:

He's being sarcastic....

i was trying to be funny :(
*goes to his room and cries over his fail*

*smears creamcheese on your face and beats you with a toliet plunger

*sticks finger up your pooper*

now wut HUH!?

I think the biggest problem with prisons is the victims have to pay the criminals. Instead of the criminals compensating the families for crimes they commit, the victim/families have to pay for the criminals expenses in prison.

At 7/29/09 11:27 AM, EZ-EC wrote: I think the biggest problem with prisons is the victims have to pay the criminals. Instead of the criminals compensating the families for crimes they commit, the victim/families have to pay for the criminals expenses in prison.

I think alot of familys wouldn't mind that.

Anyone who went to prison for a crime they didn't commit disagrees.

what needs to be done is to build less jails and more schools. that way jails wont be needed as much anyway

At 8/1/09 10:17 PM, ausmaster1000 wrote: what needs to be done is to build less jails and more schools. that way jails wont be needed as much anyway

explain your logic, becuase if you have more schools you also have the chance of more dropouts

Well this was a entertaining thread.
So in essence, Zakk wants to throw every shred of common sense out the window and put humanity to pure Totalitarianism. Because guess how long it will take someone to make thinking for yourself a crime.
How pleasant.

Oh sorry it was hobo.

I might be getting into this abit late but anyways.

Are zakk and hobo high, or just retarded? First of all killing people after conviction not mattering on the crime is taking away the right to life. Second of all, the attorneys and lawyers are there to present evidence and give why and why not this or that is a factor. A judge simply gives out a sentence, a jury convicts a person. you guys are worse then extremists in the middle-east.

At 8/2/09 09:37 AM, Freedomblades wrote: I might be getting into this abit late but anyways.

Are zakk and hobo high, or just retarded?

Zakk is just a troll, don't pay any attention for him.

Hobo is just an idiot who's against some very American Values.

At 7/25/09 01:36 AM, Thimbles wrote: When it comes to living, breathing human beings, everyone deserves a second chance. This is not a first person shooter where you'll re spawn in 20 seconds.

Amen. People make stupid decisions, we can't change that fact. Most of the crimes that are commited in the world are generally done on the spot when they normally wouldn't have done whatever it is they are imprisoned for. A second chance is naturally what we lean towards. If the person is a repeated offender and they ultimately lower the integrity of the human race, sure, keep 'em in jail forever or better yet, just kill them on the spot.

Obvious troll is obvious.

While I don't agree completely, I do believe that rapists, child molestors, murderers, and other despicable acts should warrant a Death Sentencing. None of this gas chambers or lethal injections, waiting on death row for 20-30 years until all your appeals run out, and wasting honest tax payers money crap. 1 bullet to the back of the skull.

The victims of the above mentioned crimes do take another's life, but in a much more terrible and disgusting way (especially those who commit sexual crimes). 5-10 years for life ruining crimes? A bullet is much cheaper than 20 years of living expenses.

yeah everybody deserves second chance they should get rid of executions

At 7/25/09 01:56 AM, Crazyhobo51 wrote: No, unlike you liberals, I will actually take responsibility for my actions. If I ever go to court I will forfeit my right to an attorney and jury, only the judge should have the authority to decide what happens to me. I might even plead guilty straight away and beg for the death penalty, for that's what I believe. I will not compromise for my will is strong, unlike you liberals.

Question is, WHAT IF YOU WERE INNOCENT then would you get a lawyer and a attorney? Just because someone is tried or is suspected of doing a crime, does not mean he or she did the crime.

At 7/25/09 02:11 AM, MultiCanimefan wrote:

At 7/25/09 01:56 AM, Crazyhobo51 wrote:

I hope you're aware Conservatives, even strong ones, will disagree with you greatly. Oh, and unlike YOU, I have a brain and know how to use it.

I'm a little late to the party, but Multi, you pretty much summed up EVERYTHING I was gonna say. Well said.

At 8/3/09 07:20 PM, mewantsit123 wrote: While I don't agree completely, I do believe that rapists, child molestors, murderers, and other despicable acts should warrant a Death Sentencing.

This is something what will not make me popular, but somehow I feel in graveness of the crime, rapist and child molesters are lower on the intensity scale than murderers.
Rape and touching childeren are psychological and can as well be slips of ones selfcontainment. And even more so, are very easily faked. In divorces for instance claims of child abuse are thrown out there to gain custody (and force alimony). Besides this, a man in the park who flashes his peepee towards little kids on the playground deserves my pity, not a bullet in the skull.
Rape is also something that is purely lust and sometimes the result of faulty signaling. It's a lame argument, but when a girl is wearing skimpy clothes, you're alone and she's practically rioding you I can see you snap and go all the way. Lust is a powerful tool.

Also murder is a complex bussiness. Not all murders are done by a monster out of pure sadism. Siome happen outr of selfdefence, self preservation, fear, anger, confusion. For instance, a young woman smothering her newborn child because she feels cornered by it I don't think one should kill her.

On the other hand, if you value death sentence as a tool to remove paying for prisoners, all prison sentences should be changed into death sentence. Why should you pay for the angry dude who smashed your car in?

damn trolls.

At 7/25/09 01:36 AM, Thimbles wrote: When it comes to living, breathing human beings, everyone deserves a second chance. This is not a first person shooter where you'll re spawn in 20 seconds.

Not Rapists, Child Molesters, Murderers, or Wife beaters, Anti Gays, and Hackers. I say let them die.
Put them all up against the wall and use a firing sguad.

At 8/8/09 12:25 PM, gamer30hrplus wrote:

At 7/25/09 01:36 AM, Thimbles wrote: When it comes to living, breathing human beings, everyone deserves a second chance. This is not a first person shooter where you'll re spawn in 20 seconds.

Not Rapists, Child Molesters, Murderers, or Wife beaters, Anti Gays, and Hackers.

Anti-Gays and Hackers may be assholes, but hacking isn't the same as the other shit.

I know you're just being funneh though. :)

I say let them die.

Put them all up against the wall and use a firing sguad.

Thing of it is, not 100% of the people accused or convicted of being a rapist, molesters, or muderer, actually are what we say those are. Wife Beating, though a really shitty thing to do, is somewhat more understandable then the other things. Stress can really get to people.

I say let them die.

Put them all up against the wall and use a firing sguad.

Thing of it is, not 100% of the people accused or convicted of being a rapist, molesters, or muderer, actually are what we say those are. Wife Beating, though a really shitty thing to do, is somewhat more understandable then the other things. Stress can really get to people.

Let me guess your a DEM? I am a REP. Anti religious as all hell. I beleive in the death penalty.

So what you are saying then is that a father has every right to kill his family?
Let me tell you a thing or two here.
If a father beats the hell outa his son in front of a cop should he be taking away to prison?
Not where i live cause it really ain't much of a crime. 6 months in jail max.
How do i know this cause i have seen it happen and when i reported it all i got was there is nothing we can do.
In my county alone we have 776 child molesters walking the streets. My lord. WTF is wrong with this country. Some one molests a child and gets like 15 years Probation WTH.
Me funny about the firing squad hell no not after the hell i have been through. The beatenings i have taken in my life . My lord. I could write books on the evidence it's self. I think like 40+.

At 8/8/09 12:43 PM, gamer30hrplus wrote:

I say let them die.

Put them all up against the wall and use a firing sguad.

Thing of it is, not 100% of the people accused or convicted of being a rapist, molesters, or muderer, actually are what we say those are. Wife Beating, though a really shitty thing to do, is somewhat more understandable then the other things. Stress can really get to people.

Let me guess your a DEM? I am a REP. Anti religious as all hell. I beleive in the death penalty.

None, i don't classify myself in anyway, i'm not a DEM, REP, or anything you can think of. I'm Not anti-religious, and i'm still conflicted about the death penalty. But if we do use it all, it has to be used with restraint.

So what you are saying then is that a father has every right to kill his family?

Thats taking what i said totally out of proportion. I never said anyone has a right to kill his family. I said that not everyone whos accused of being a murderer is really guilty. Second of all, you said "Wife beaters" you didn't mention people who actually kill their spouses. In that case, their murderers and deserve everything they get.

Let me tell you a thing or two here.

I'd be glad to here it.

If a father beats the hell outa his son in front of a cop should he be taking away to prison?

He should be arrested for child abuse, go to trial, if guilty, he should at least 2 years, more depending on severity. Afterwords, he should have to go to anger management and psychological consoling for at least 2 more years. As an added bonus, make him pay for it.

Not where i live cause it really ain't much of a crime. 6 months in jail max.

Thats fucked up.

How do i know this cause i have seen it happen and when i reported it all i got was there is nothing we can do.

It can't always be proven. I don't know what you saw, but it might not be child abuse. Again, i can't judge on that, i don't know what you saw. But, to be fair, they have to question the credibility of a totally anonymous tipster. But, if it was in public, an officer witnessed it, and it was undeniably abuse, then something should be done.

In my county alone we have 776 child molesters walking the streets. My lord. WTF is wrong with this country. Some one molests a child and gets like 15 years Probation WTH.

No matter what the sentance, the prison and probation time should always include some type of consoling. Some cannot be helped, cannot or will not be saved, but some do infact reform. You cannot forget the ones that do regret their actions and never commit them again. Some of these people are insane, or sick mentally. And thus less responsible for their actions. Mens Rayus Is important.

Me funny about the firing squad hell no not after the hell i have been through. The beatenings i have taken in my life . My lord. I could write books on the evidence it's self. I think like 40+.

Well, its not like i had anyway of knowing that you yourself were abused, i could have made the assumption from your very strong hatred toward child abuser, but i didn't think it was fair to make assumptions on someone i didn't know. Like i said about the death penalty, if used at all, it must be used with caution and restraint. Least we become a society that glorifies death.

Me funny about the firing squad hell no not after the hell i have been through. The beatenings i have taken in my life . My lord. I could write books on the evidence it's self. I think like 40+.

Well, its not like i had anyway of knowing that you yourself were abused, i could have made the assumption from your very strong hatred toward child abuser, but i didn't think it was fair to make assumptions on someone i didn't know. Like i said about the death penalty, if used at all, it must be used with caution and restraint. Least we become a society that glorifies death.

Very good case and point we need more of these on this site rather than just slammings and trollings.
You seem like a smart and well put together individual.

No, way... What about corrupt police officers; we can't just give them the right to execute anyone when they feel like it even though the person may be innocent. There are a lot of innocent people who are 'charged with murder' and found to be not guilty in the end. Everyone should be given a fair trial.

this is the kind of shit the Founding Fathers wrote the constiution for.

At 7/27/09 07:25 PM, Ericho wrote:

At 7/25/09 01:36 AM, Thimbles wrote: When it comes to living, breathing human beings, everyone deserves a second chance. This is not a first person shooter where you'll re spawn in 20 seconds.

Uh, that's kind of a bad analogy because we're talking about people being sent to prison (not being killed, right?)

I'm talking about blatantly ending another mans life without a second thought or chance of rehabilitation.

Ah, another great discussion thread from BBS user CrazyHobo51.

Another thing we need to think about when considering the Death Penalty is Trust. Do you really trust the Government with that sort of huge, profound power? Do you trust them not to abuse it? Do you trust them not to use it as a tool to pacify the people beyond their rights? Do you trust them enough to only use it as punishment for terrible crimes? Its no surprise that people with power tend to abuse it, that's exactly why we need to strongly consider what sort of power that we, the people, entrust to them.

In the end, they only have as much power as we allow them too.

if you want to kill off prison costs, work on eliminating victimless crimes.