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At 7/21/09 04:36 PM, ultros3 wrote: The argument the Church makes is that a homosexual couple can not procreate and make new children.

The duty of a married couple is to worship, love, and fear God, to love each other, and to make children. This is the truth.

Did you know that Chuck Norris doesn't procreate? He breeds.

But since when has the church been the government?

always sadly...

Isn't that the BASIS of the reason for founding America? Why should it change, just because the tables seem to be turned against their favor.

At 7/21/09 08:09 AM, Qwazal wrote: youll find convincing anyone of anything to be hard

specially with christians...

Damn right, try telling John McCain to cope with Iraq!

At 7/21/09 05:13 PM, Sensationalism wrote:

At 7/21/09 04:40 PM, Gaaz wrote: Gay people should keep it to themselves. I don't believe in a gay couple adopting, it damages the child.

I don't believe in idiots posting, it damages the bbs.

I agree whole-heartedly with the above statement

Sensationalism's, not the Gaaz blokes

I believe that gays should be allowed to marry, but not have a religious marriage. i have no obligation to them getting married, just don't do it in a church.

I'm Atheist and Christians are faggots.

JUST KIDDING!! .. about the faggot part.

At 7/30/09 01:10 PM, Makeshift wrote: I'm Atheist and Christians are faggots.

JUST KIDDING!! .. about the faggot part.

Then what are they?!

At 7/30/09 01:20 PM, TheGodfather wrote:

At 7/30/09 01:10 PM, Makeshift wrote: I'm Atheist and Christians are faggots.

JUST KIDDING!! .. about the faggot part.

Then what are they?!

uhm... good point

The one perfect rebuke against the arguement for the "sanctity of marriage": Marriage used to be sacred, and hell, even with gays in the mix it could still be sacred, however, heterosexuals have abused Marriage to the point where the poor girl has lost any innocence she had and is now traumatized and catatonic (a little graphic for alot of tastes I know but you know I'm right). There is nothing gays can even hope to do to marriage that we straights havn't done over and over and over again so really, anything that might have been worth protecting has already been lost, let em get married, and may they have more respect for marriage than we do.

god bless canada eh?

I blame the religious Hics.

That was for humor.

Anyway I think that gay people should marry. I don't care. I just don't want some guy hitting on me. I support your marriages but stay the fuck off me :3
There's no real problem for gays to marry except for the people who are afraid of change or just plain ignorant.

Pretty much every anti-gay person to post ITT has failed to make a single reasonable point.

This has nothing to do with politics. It's about religion. But there's no forum thing for religion.

HA! Take that, Christians! And that fact it is observable in nature is SO true. Monkeys have homosexual intercourse, just as humans. It's not unusual the least - in fact, I'm 101% sure it happens at least once a day.

Homosexuality is about as natural as moles on butt cheeks it can be scary to some people.

At 7/30/09 02:53 PM, TB1ZZL3 wrote: Pretty much every anti-gay person to post ITT has failed to make a single reasonable point.

When has an anti-gay person ever made a reasonable arguement?

It boils down to two reasons- homophobia and religion. They don't have a reasonable arguement!

Gays should be killed, y/n?

At 7/30/09 04:14 PM, Snowgoons wrote: Gays should be killed, y/n?

No.
Then there would be no Lez's in this world.

Being raised by a mellow family, I've come to a conclusion that I don't care who gets married. Let me throw some thoughts on the subject:

1. Why is it a big deal? I mean, I can understand if your parents of the gays, however I would think that the want of your child's happiness is more then your petty homophobia. Sadly, that isn't the case for some.

2. Is this really worth the time? In my opinion no. Instead of debating on if gays can marry, shouldn't we be focusing on more important things. Things that actually save lives? Now, before someone shouts out "GAYS DON'T SEXUALLY REPRODUCE" I'm not talking about that kind of health, more so diseases or world affairs that might harm people.

3. But Religion says it's bad? Well, I'm going to be blunt and honest with you. I find religion to be bullshit and nothing more then man worshiping himself. Now don't get me wrong, I find some things in religion to be just, however for the most part it's bullshit.

4. Mental Disease, is it true? Well, the original poster made it clear. However, even if one isn't born gay, I know a few people that chose to be gay due to personal reasons and have been perfectly happy.

5. Alright, marriage is fine, BUT NO ADOPTION! Alright, let's hold up here, I'm pretty sure your going to pull that "The children will be gay because their parents are gay!" reason right out of your ass. Wouldn't it be better for a child to grow up in a loving home with two parents, be them straight or gay, then to live in an adoption center not knowing what having a family means?

Well, those are just some thoughts, I've made my post a bit too long..sorry for the wall of text folks.

4. Mental Disease, is it true? Well, the original poster made it clear. However, even if one isn't born gay, I know a few people that chose to be gay due to personal reasons and have been perfectly happy.

it is not one just just like being intersexed it is a genetic disoder.
oprah did a whole episode on it.

How come this thread is 4 pages locked when there are countless Gay Oriented topics on Newgrounds that this could have been posted in.

Damn!

Did I say locked, fuck I need to get some sleep.
I meant, long **

Sorry for the double, if NG had edit.... nevermind.

At 7/21/09 08:07 AM, Sekhem wrote: Pretty sure they used religion as an excuse for owning slaves back in the day.

Probably. Left handed people were considered descendants of the devil at one point in history.

Didn't bother to read the whole thread, so someone probably brought this up. I never understood why some people are against gay marriage. Why should you give a damn about someone else's orientation?

At 7/31/09 04:48 AM, gamer30hrplus wrote:

4. Mental Disease, is it true? Well, the original poster made it clear. However, even if one isn't born gay, I know a few people that chose to be gay due to personal reasons and have been perfectly happy.

it is not one just just like being intersexed it is a genetic disoder.
oprah did a whole episode on it.

Never said it was, sorry if it appeared that way, I was merely saying to look at the original posters facts on the matter. And his facts show that it isn't. Though with my wording I can see how you interpreted it that way. Again, my apology.

At 7/21/09 08:25 AM, Mewtwig wrote: I'm don't care about gay marriages, but I strongly oppose gay people adopting kids, or having kids with someone then bringing them up in a gay family. It's just wrong!

Exactly, I prefer the old fashioned way: an alcoholic father abusing a frail timid mother and beating my brother for wanting to take dance class. That's how I learned to be a man and hate the gays!

At 7/30/09 12:18 PM, xXShortEmoKidXx wrote:

At 7/21/09 08:25 AM, Mewtwig wrote: I'm don't care about gay marriages, but I strongly oppose gay people adopting kids, or having kids with someone then bringing them up in a gay family. It's just wrong!

Why is it wrong?

"You need a mother figure and a father figure to raise a child."

(1) Single parents raise kids all the time.

(2) Mother figure and a father figure.....you sure as fuck won't get that in an orphanage.

"Gay parents will raise gay kids."

(1) Bullshit. If straight parents only raised straight kids, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

There are lots of good points in this thread so far and these are a few of them.

Also, lots of christians oppose gay marriage because they think it's wrong, unnatural, ... Well, I don't believe in god, but they do, so how about this: If god is who you look up to and believe in, why would he have created gay people? Your supreme lord wouldn't make a mistake, would he? I know the feeling of believing in something/being against something so much that you actually ignore the evidence against you and just stick to your own ignorance. Their logic is flawed. They have no real reason to act that way.

At 7/31/09 05:10 AM, TheZachs wrote:

At 7/21/09 08:25 AM, Mewtwig wrote: I'm don't care about gay marriages, but I strongly oppose gay people adopting kids, or having kids with someone then bringing them up in a gay family. It's just wrong!

Exactly, I prefer the old fashioned way: an alcoholic father abusing a frail timid mother and beating my brother for wanting to take dance class. That's how I learned to be a man and hate the gays!

Oh my god. You really need to live in the real world.
It sounds like you yourself hate women just like your dad.
I see you ending up in prison for beating your girlfriend up.
Gays rule. We can be cool if given a chanch and are treated like human beings instead of animals.
My lord. The amount of hate towards us it is stupid.
I am a lesbian and have been one now for 15 years.

At 7/21/09 08:05 AM, TheThirdSix wrote: "Why don't they just choose to be straight? After all being gay is a choice. It's just a mental disorder, that can be cured by finding God/Jesus."

Wrong wrong wrong. Let's take a look at the list of American scientific associations that support the ideas that people are born gay, being gay is not a choice, and it should not be treated as a mental disorder:

woah there cowboy, i'd be careful when treading around that particular topic of gays. there's like a stupid amount of debate on that subject, and people are very emotional about this topic.

if you're gonna rant on about gays, just be sure to leave that part out just in case. you never know who reads these things.

Oh, you want to know how gays would be more accepted in the minds of the majority in regards to marrying? Kill stereotypes of scantily clad, pink skipping pixies who will do anything to you because you have a penis too. Then perhaps they'll be seen as normal people and not something entirely obscure and scary to most.

Because they shouldn't, I agree with christianity on this point.