Forum Topic: Has people lost intrest in flash?

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WackyAnimation

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Posted at: 7/18/09 10:20 PM

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I have been noticing recently that many flashes end up with a whole lot less views then what a flash would get several years ago. Is it that people would rather do something else on the site is attracting more people like the bbs? Maybe people have lost interest in the most recent flashes and would rather come to newgrounds only for the much higher scored flashes.

If you have flashes from several years ago and recent flashes, check it out and you will probably see what I mean. for me my older flashes all got 1000-3000 views easily, while many of my recent flashes as well as most flashes in the portal get just the bare minimum of 200-400 views.

I'm almost positive that its just not me, so whats up with this?


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Perhaps it's because they've been there for longer...


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I think it has to do with the rapidly decreasing amount of people who really care about the stats like the Blam and Save points, which in reality, only make bad flashes worse and good flashes better, which is only worth anything if you want to spend 3 days in front of a computer screen sorting out the Flash Portal.

In other words, people don't care if other people don't care either.

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At 7/18/09 10:22 PM, The-Darkphoenix wrote: Perhaps it's because they've been there for longer...

nope. i can clearly remember getting that many views while it was still in the most recent flashes list.


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I'm guessing it's because a few years ago, NG was hailed for being a completely unique flash portal and stuff, but as time rolled by, it became lost with all the other flash portals bombarding the internet, and most people come for the BBS anyway.

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It might be the fact that a large number of people coming in to the site only care about the flashes that appear on the front page, and barely ever pay any attention to the rest of the Flash portal, and the recent submissions.

I try my best to help out those who have just submitted a new flash, but I can't be watching the portal all day.

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At 7/18/09 10:27 PM, firemaker60 wrote: It might be the fact that a large number of people coming in to the site only care about the flashes that appear on the front page.

Every time you look at someones user page, they pretty much always have the currently most popular flashes on their top 4 favorites. i try to be different and have things that no one else does. inless i REALLY like it.

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As the internet grows and more fads come up like Myspace, Facebook, and Twitter; the more sites people visit, and the less they pay attention to less popular sites like newgrounds.


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Perhaps you should take into consideration the other factors. Such as...

- Personal fans that have lost interest in your movies
- The amount of times you watched your own movies
- The amount of times your KK friends watched/upvoted your movies
- The same person watching the movie 100 times

Were you thinking that 2-3,000 unique people were watching your movie years ago? There's probably the same amount, if not more visitors in the flash portal now, and perhaps your "movies" are just simply overlooked.

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I think the art is dissapearing guys!!! I think people are starting to think watching flashes are gay!People rather watch other humans do stuff,or going onto youtube and watch videos! it's just so sad...

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This is true. when i look back at the years, that was before youtube became popular. youtube came out in '05. that had to have taken a massive blow to the ng crowd


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what the hell! i did not need to see that! i shit, no I'm remembering the time I walked into my grandparents having sex when I was 3...NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooooo (breath) oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo-

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The daily feature score average has been plummeting too recently. Today's Daily Feature Score:... 3.47... What the fuck???

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I think it has something to do with the fact that there are tons of Flash on this site, people only remember the really awesome ones, so they get the views.

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I haven't lost interest in flash. I watch tons of it a day.
People are probably losing interest in flash, because they aren't seeing something someone created being original.

I'm just guessing though, that's all.
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Every time I see this thread while browsing the forums, the typo in the title fills me with rage.

I had to click on it.

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IMO as I´ve been following NG since 2001, my life just got busier with the time...
Now I have a great job but little to no time to watch, vote and review flash!
And the overflow of new media on the internet makes it only worse, there is too much distraction I´d say for the kids new to NG.


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At 7/18/09 10:24 PM, TailsDollFan wrote: and most people come for the BBS anyway.

Hahaha no, fuck no.

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At 7/19/09 01:22 AM, OneMillionDays wrote: Every time I see this thread while browsing the forums, the typo in the title fills me with rage.

I had to click on it.

i no notice typo on thread names?


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I think NG has lost its uniqueness over time. Also, there's lots of NG hate out there.

But mostly I blame flash spam crews. They made the portal shit for everyone.


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I think that a lot of people visit the forums, yeah. Heck, that's practically all I do with the exception of slight vacations to the flash and audio portal.

Although, most of the time, people won't watch your submission after it passes judgement unless you come out with a green or blue score. I think most regular, orange flashes get about 300-400 views before they pass down into the abyss of not being on the most recent 50 list.

Btw, do you make a conspiracy thread every day or are you just on a roll?

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I don't know. Has they?


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At 7/19/09 01:36 AM, Lagatag wrote: I think NG has lost its uniqueness over time. Also, there's lots of NG hate out there.

But mostly I blame flash spam crews. They made the portal shit for everyone.

How? By getting a bunch of 14 year old's to get angry at them? Or the fact that they've stolen quite a few awards?


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At 7/19/09 01:48 AM, FurryDemon wrote:
At 7/19/09 01:36 AM, Lagatag wrote: I think NG has lost its uniqueness over time. Also, there's lots of NG hate out there.

But mostly I blame flash spam crews. They made the portal shit for everyone.
How? By getting a bunch of 14 year old's to get angry at them? Or the fact that they've stolen quite a few awards?

idk about awards, totw and underdog are not very prestigious. this may be true though because at some points the portal gets flooded with spam


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We used to get like 200-300 submissions a day, and now it's like half. I blame all the fucking professional site games.

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I blame the rise in popularity in flash production actually in combination with the loss of very talented flash artists tha had huge following in newgrounds early days.

Firstly, about 150 flashes are submitted a day, and more than half of those make it in. That was not the case 5 years. Back then it was slightly less per day but only about a quarter made it through the portal. This trend came from it getting it easier to make flashes that look better so even beginners look good and from spam voting, that's also let absolute garbage. I remember when even looking at the turd of the week was worth a look at because the stupidity of flashes like Dragonball N and the IsOnFire series was hilarious.

Secondly, we've lost... Legendaryfrog, knox, James Farr, Neil Cicierga, Sambakza is done with There She Is, Adam Phillips is starting his Bitey movie, David Firth, and countless others.

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Posted at: 7/19/09 05:00 AM

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Did you guys ever consider that because there are more people here now, there are also more people making flash?

Just look at Alexa, NG is not losing traffic. It just has more content competing for attention.

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Some of my flashes from 2008 have other 1k views and there pure shit.

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Sorry for the double post but i blame Youtube.

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Not to mention that people used to reviewed a lot more back in the days. After a movie passed judgement it had like 30 reviews or so.


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